I read those posts but he said he didn't see the blue dot with the arrow head when he used chrome/IE/FF and my friend can see it.
Is it a PITA to install and remove safari on a PC or no big deal?
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Is it a PITA to install and remove safari on a PC or no big deal?
Most who have got it to work had a family plan but I believe a few:couple have been successful with individual. It just depends. On what? Not sure at the moment
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Don't worry guys. If you have a. Individual plan and it's not working when I get my new UDP lines I'll sell you some to make yours a family plan
..Gotta admit, this lack-of-parity thing is quite maddening. I've got no other rational explanation for why this thing works in Safari and no other browser. I also use the Mac-only OmniWeb too because of its customizability, but that's irrelevant here - I wish I had a better explanation.
I'm going to go out on a limb and offer that I saw the "account holder" information during the ordering process and, as I'd alluded in my previous post, some of the fields aren't correct. Apple's rep related to me via chat that they imported data from the carrier; I've IMed with a couple of users who offered they'd had similar account (got a holy crap! email just now) issues, and none of us want to call VZW or Apple to upset that - yeah, I'll write it here - Apple check out cart.
Just got my email - my add-a-line iPhone just shipped!
I posted an image of the widget/"arrow" earlier. I'd seen the greyed out indicators on SD and elsewhere. As to why I can click through and have more options, I've got nothing.
As to why options are working in one browser and not another - consider this. Apple created a web-based form in their own browser. I've seen for myself that my own account works in Safari and no other browser. I've seen for myself that VZW's account information for me is not correct - in two types of data (contact data and billing address). Why your account is different than mine, I can't even speculate - maybe SIM sizes of existing phones, the kind of car that we drive?
Safari is a piece of cake, but Apple stopped supporting it over 2 years ago. Here's a link to the Windows version: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1531
I have asked a couple of devs I know why it's working for me and others but not for you and others, and data field errors or billing holds are the two flags that came up. I offered that you have promo items on your account - but, so do I. Now that my iPhone has shipped, I might get the courage up to make a call to Apple and find out what's what...
But are you saying in Chrome you did not see the widget at all? My friend saw the widget fine in Chrome and could click it to scroll to the right all the way to the 100GB data plan. Only then it greyed out.
Did you not see the widget at all in Chrome or did you see it and it let you get as far as the 100GB data plan and no further? Then in Safari you could get farther to the Nationwide TDPs?
Thanks!
She tried mobile safari on an iPad I believe. I will ask her again to make sure.
Has anyone been able to add a line through mobile safari?
Sorry, so tired today. Long day and it's not over yet. I could see the blue widget so that I could vertically "scroll" over to the ULD option, along with the options - in Safari.
In Chrome/FF I had one page of NW data options, but the "widget" was greyed out so I couldn't view other options. I closed the browser session, opened up Safari and started over, and I could get all the way to UL data again. In Safari, I had options for tiered data, with and with MHS, up to and including UL data. I selected UL data...
TY! My friend had a different problem - she saw the widget but was only presented with the ME data plan options. I don't think safari would "cure" her problem I will confirm that she used mobile safari.
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ty!
So anyone on this thread know how soon I could order another phone if I cancel my ship-to-home phone from Apple? I'm just preparing in case I find local availability since I have a phone on order that's supposed to take 7-10 days.
I cancelled my ship to home on my iPhone as I was on apple.com checking to see if it updated. And it did within like 30 sec! Of course now all the stores around me are out of stock but hopefully that will change tomorrow. #
I have to say this has been an impressive run. Today I AOL'd 2 of my UDP lines and added another through apple.com. Better yet once the guy who took over my 2 lines set up his plan, I showed and he was able to add a line through apple.com. I have continued to sim swap every time because why mess with success. I have done 3 total now with in store pickup and never had an issue.
If we base it on the only thing we know for sure - how Verizon has acted in the past - the answer is they won't. All we can go on is Verizon's past actions. Anything else is pure speculation.
Only time will tell if Verizon will all of a sudden do things completely differently than they have done things in the past.
So I finally was able to find local availability on a 6. Cancelled my ship-to-home phone but the site kept saying I had a pending order and couldn't order another. Took about 5 minutes of constant trying for it to finally allow me to attempt order. That was a stressful few minutes, knowing that these go quickly. But was able to get a 6 to pickup tomorrow. Let's hope this works for me.
The only thing I would say about that is that I can believe that you will trip a fraud flag of some sort by that much activity on your account in such a short period of time warranting further scrutiny.
THAT I am certain - that Verizon has fraud flags set to be tripped if unusual activity on accounts is detected. I would think adding 2 lines and AOLing them in such a short period of time would trip it. And then you added another to boot, lol! Only time will tell but if Verizon doesn't have some sort of system in place to detect unusual activity on accounts, my god, what a bunch of morons they are.
Remember, Verizon CAN terminate your contract at will. They won't be able to charge you the etf, but they can terminate you and you have no recourse.
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Actually no Jules they cannot terminate your contract at will, have you read the terms of agreement? I have read every line. There really is nothing they can do because I haven't violated any terms. At best with maybe a veeerrrrry long stretch of the idea I could be in violation of TOA rights to limit or end service or agreement 2 (e)
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I really do recommend you read it, or at least that section. It explains why UDP even still exists because essentially they can't unless you breech those terms. I imagine when they are done with UDP all together they will rely heavily on that section 2 (e)
Yes, i have read it and I have read it with very experienced and knowledgeable eyes. I suppose it all depends on what you mean by at will, but I assure you there is enough wiggle room in the language Verizon has incorporated into their T&C and CAs that they can terminate your contract for this kind of activity. Here's an example.
WHAT ARE VERIZON WIRELESS' RIGHTS TO LIMIT OR END SERVICE OR END THIS AGREEMENT?
We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to: (1) if you: (a) breach this agreement; (b) resell your Service; (c) use your Service for any illegal purpose, including use that violates trade and economic sanctions and prohibitions promulgated by any US governmental agency; (d) install, deploy or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate an RF signal without our permission; (e) steal from or lie to us; or, if you're a Postpay customer; (f) do not pay your bill on time; (g) incur charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit, or materially in excess of your monthly access charges (even if we haven't yet billed the charges); (h) provide credit information we can't verify; or (i) are unable to pay us or go bankrupt; or (2) if you, any user of your device or any line of service on your account, or any account manager on your account: (a) threaten, harass, or use vulgar and/or inappropriate language toward our representatives; (b) interfere with our operations; (c) "spam," or engage in other abusive messaging or calling; (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications; or (e) use your Service in a way that negatively affects our network or other customers. We can also temporarily limit your Service for any operational or governmental reason.
Good cause means anything Verizon can convince a judge it means. If you think a judge would not find this behavior good cause to terminate your contract, you have never been before a judge before.
Peeps, don't be stupid here. You not only risk getting yourselfs kicked off of Verizon, you risk ruining it for everyone else b/c you are going to trip fraud flags with this much unusual activity on your account.
It's one thing to get a UDP line or 2 to give to family members or even a couple to sell, but to churn them and think you will be doing this all under the radar is just naive. I am sure Verizon has some mechanism in place to detect unusual activity on accounts.
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PSA: Don't try to change your order at the store.
Decided to get a different model of phone. Apple guy said "No problem". Processed my original order without issue. He then proceeded to do an exchange and then his device asked to "Pick a plan". Ugh. Had them cancel it all.
I submitted an order online in the store and got my confirmation. I waited for the pickup notification email... and waited...and waited. After an hour I gave up as they were to close soon. I got home and received the "We're ready for you" email 7 minutes prior to closing. LOL
Decided to get a different model of phone. Apple guy said "No problem". Processed my original order without issue. He then proceeded to do an exchange and then his device asked to "Pick a plan". Ugh. Had them cancel it all.
I submitted an order online in the store and got my confirmation. I waited for the pickup notification email... and waited...and waited. After an hour I gave up as they were to close soon. I got home and received the "We're ready for you" email 7 minutes prior to closing. LOL
And I just want to point out, that the CAs must be arbitrated according to their terms in small claims court no less. What that means is that you are agreeing not only to give up your right to a jury trial, juries of course who may be sympathetic to you, but you agree that the damages you incur are limited to small claims limits, which in my state is $2500.
So if Verizon chooses to terminate your contract, your recourse is to go to arbitration with them with a maximum limit on your damages being whatever the small claims limit is in your state.
So they may pay you $2500 to make you go away, but they CAN terminate you for any reason THEY deem is good cause (IOW, for all practical purposes at will) and all you could potentially get from them if you were to win in arbitration before an arbitrator (most of whom are retired lawyers and judges) is whatever the small claims limit is in your state. Good luck to you on that if you go to arbitration unrepresented and if you pay an attorney with arbitration experience, you are looking at a lot more than $2500 in legal fees if you can even find an attorney willing to represent you against Verizon, lol!
And I haven't even looked at the T&C associated with the apple sales. When you buy from a 3rd party retailer, you have not only your Verizon agreement to think about, but the retailer agreement, too.
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And what by the way would you argue to counter Verizon's claim of good cause for termination? And what would you base your damages calculation on?
And before anyone says, they would be damaged by being unable to use a cell phone, you have a duty to mitigate damages under all breach of contract theories in every state. Which means, if you don't go get yourself a cell phone with another provider right away, you have not mitigated your damages and you won't be able to collect any damages due to not being able to use a cell phone. And if you do go get yourself a cell phone with another provider right away, then how are you damaged? Do you see the predicament you are in?
All things I am sure you have never thought about b/c this isn't an area of your expertise.
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I see everyone talking about swapping sims to be safe. I have 2 lines on my account udp both with android devices. If I wanted to add an iphone with unlimited ordered online and pickup at the store. First would it be safe to just turn it on with the sim inside. Also once iphone is active can i switch the new number with one of my existing numbers? What should be the prcoess for me to follow thanks in advance.
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