That function had not been working for a while now, You have to call verizon they will port for you. Make sure all lines are activated before you request port in or you get a big mess. I think the fuction is disable because people selling lines would port out too google voice and then ask for new number,
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My first line that came over was an individual line and I do not remember having the option for 250 texts with that said, how successful has anyone been getting that added after the fact since it is not an option online? What about other options not showing on Verizon?
I saw one post where a person requested the change to 250 and I was assuming that it was approved. I didn't notice where it was not.
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Okay, thanks! All lines are activated...All five #. I do have a modem on one, but I can't see where that matters.
To clarify, the modem line is not one affected by the porting of the number.
I saw one post where a person requested the change to 250 and I was assuming that it was approved. I didn't notice where it was not.
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Okay, thanks! All lines are activated...All five #. I do have a modem on one, but I can't see where that matters.
To clarify, the modem line is not one affected by the porting of the number.
Yeap, just call in and it will be easy. Mobile to Mobile is like instantaneous. If you are doing Google Voice then be prepared to wait a week or so for a port in. A user here says hes on Day 6 of Porting In.
Interesting point Jules thanks for the reply. We can just agree to disagree and I hope you never have paypal issues it's no fun. I've been burned by paypal so I can't ever look at them in a positive light. Thanks for all your efforts on the forums I do appreciate your contributions
Don't get stuck with all those extra UDP lines they are very expensive if you have to pay through the 2 year contracts so best give them to me and I'll take the burden off your hands
So much for being easy...It took about 45 mins with the CSR, but we got r dun.
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Back to the 250 Text messaging question I had earlier. Has anyone been able to add it to a line with no plan?
I called in and was told only 1K. I am figuring I need to call in again and maybe again, but some words of experience would be appreciated.
Don't get stuck with all those extra UDP lines they are very expensive if you have to pay through the 2 year contracts so best give them to me and I'll take the burden off your hands
haha how many exactly are you selling daily??
Well, whether or not the paypal TOS are an adhesion contract or not and how courts treat adhesion contracts is not disputable. There are volumes of case law on this topic. Adhesion contracts are not treated the same way by courts as those contracts entered into by parties of similar bargaining power who have the opportunity to negotiate contract terms.
The UCC and it's applicability to the sale of items on ebay is not disputable, either (with the notable exception of Louisiana, I have no idea how things work in that state).
I don't doubt that, but what I do doubt is that there was nothing you could have done about it had you been more educated about the law. This assumes of course that you fulfilled all of your obligations as a seller and were in the right.
From what you have posted here you seem to think that if something is in a contract, then you can do nothing about it. Anyone can put anything they want in a contract - doesn't mean a court is legally obligated to enforce the terms of the contract.
You are welcome. Not trying to be a know-it-all here but I think I help people when I educate them about topics like these. The problem though is that it takes alot of effort to educate yourself about the law, both substantive and procedural not to mention the rules of evidence. The lack of procedural or evidentiary law knowledge can cause someone to lose a case that they would have won had they been better informed about procedure/evidence.
You would be surprised how many large corporations abruptly reverse themselves when they get sued in small claims court. Unless your case is frivolous, they many times give in even if they think they are right simply b/c it would cost them more to litigate than to settle.
Also, large corporations are run by human beings who sometimes make mistakes. And if they get the corporations that they are employed by involved in a lawsuit over their mistake, you can betcha they are looking for a way to end the lawsuit quickly if their mistake will be exposed in the litigation.
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I have sold zero and am not planning to ever sell any (although I get a kick out of hearing from the people who do) I just need some extra lines for my various phones and I'm going to use them myself
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Interesting I didn't realize small claims court actually had any teeth so to speak but I'll look into it and i appreciate the tip
it cost 35 per line in activation fee and you can always let somone iuse unlimited data.Don't get stuck with all those extra UDP lines they are very expensive if you have to pay through the 2 year contracts so best give them to me and I'll take the burden off your hands
A judgment obtained in small claims court is as enforceable as one obtained in a regular court. In my state, you are entitled to demand a jury trial in small claims court just like in a regular court.
But keep in mind that your best option is to protect yourself by using the USPS and insuring the package for the full retail value of the item, signature required for delivery. If the buyer claims the item doesn't work - file an insurance claim. If the buyer claims the item wasn't received - file an insurance claim.
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I've got a few things to chime in about, having to deal with this personally a few times. Getting a judgment doesn't mean anything really, in the scope of this thread. I own judgments and stipulated judgments - converting those into cash is an altogether different matter. Even if you know where the money is, you'll be spending $15-30k on attorney's fees, court costs, and a forensic accountant. As soon as the plaintiff mentions other parties to be deposed - a typical tactic - you'll be spending $2-4k per deposition before even going to mediation or court.
So. Not. Worth. It. For the purposes of this thread. Any defendant with money knows this. Settling gets you pennies on the dollar - any defendant with money knows this. Class action lawsuits only serves attorneys - any defendant with money knows this, and it takes years to get a result.
If you're a plaintiff - get ready to spend $25-50k, plus court costs, if you're going to trial. I write this from experience, not guessing. Defendants with money also know this. It's just easier to choose another carrier, not push your "position" by whining about it. Mediation is cheap - take that offer, if it's provided to you. You may win your court case, but you'll lose money - for cell phone stuff, it just isn't worth it IMO.
Hey guys, just a warning. I've been following this thread for awhile. I was one of the lucky ones with the original unlimited that let me add the lines through apple.com. I've been getting lines for friends and family and even selling a few and selling the iphones.
I tried to pickup an apple.com order today and the phone wouldn't activate through Verizon. This had never happened before. I was nervous and called CS and after a long hold I was told my account was being looked at for fraud. I asked for a supervisor and all he could tell me was I had alot of pages of notes on my account and an unusual number of AOL's. I told him they were friends or family but he didn't seem to believe me. He said I won't be able to add or remove any lines at this time.
I will keep you guys updated when I know more. I know someone posted earlier about looking at the fine print on AOL's and how it's against terms to transfer them and keep the subsidized phones. I will mainly be upset because I have my number and other family members on this account.
You guys have been really helpful just wanted to give you a heads up.
I tried to pickup an apple.com order today and the phone wouldn't activate through Verizon. This had never happened before. I was nervous and called CS and after a long hold I was told my account was being looked at for fraud. I asked for a supervisor and all he could tell me was I had alot of pages of notes on my account and an unusual number of AOL's. I told him they were friends or family but he didn't seem to believe me. He said I won't be able to add or remove any lines at this time.
I will keep you guys updated when I know more. I know someone posted earlier about looking at the fine print on AOL's and how it's against terms to transfer them and keep the subsidized phones. I will mainly be upset because I have my number and other family members on this account.
You guys have been really helpful just wanted to give you a heads up.
Probably about 8 total over the past 2 weeks. But all to different people. I also noticed that the last few AOL's I did, I would set them up and tell the other person to call. When they would let me know if it went through, they would say it took forever and the Verizon agents would be asking them how I got a new iphone and unlimited data.
While you are 100% correct that converting a judgment into cash is an altogether different matter, it is not correct to say a judgment doesn't mean anything.
Yes, you have to know how to enforce a judgment, but that is a far cry from a judgment not meaning anything.
First off, not if you learn how to enforce a judgment yourself. Attorneys are not magical beings with ESP or other supernatural powers. They are just people who have taken the time to learn the law. Many of them are complete dumba$$es, btw so if they can do it, so can the people who can figure out how to create Verizon UDP line factories.
And a forensic accountant is not needed unless someone is trying to hide money and they are good at it. If someone has an individual bank account, you levy it. If their child support payments, SS, SSI or RR retirement benefits, etc. are deposited into that account then it is more complicated.
If you have judgments against shell corporations, and it sounds like you may, yeah, you need forensic accountants.
I thought we were talking about individuals selling iPhones on ebay to individuals, not business contracts b/t LLC's?
The situation I was talking about, the iPhone seller IS the plaintiff.
We weren't talking about suing Verizon. At least that wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about selling an iPhone and having a buyer dispute the charge with paypal.
Also, do you have any experience in small claims court? Smalls claims court is a different ball game altogether wrt what the judges let pro se plaintiffs get away with. And the judges will completely ignore the formal rules of procedure/evidence b/c they can. No one spends the money to appeal a small claims court judgment of $500.
BTW - family court judges completely ignore the formal rules of procedure/evidence by and large too. If you have ever been through a contested divorce or child custody/support case you already know that. They freakin do what they want without much if any regard for the rules of procedure/evidence. It is the rare person who appeals family court orders and the family court judges know that so they disrespect the law and the rules of procedure/evidence on a regular basis b/c they can.
Sounds like you have much larger judgments than would qualify for small claims court and that you have them against businesses who engage in money hiding tactics.
If you think paypal is going to spend $25-50k to defend itself in a small claims action where the damages claimed are $500, you have never been to small claims court nor have you ever sued a major corporation for a small sum.
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I'm going to bed, will update you guys in the AM when I call back in the Verizon. All this fraud and lawsuit talk is freaking me out. Also, do you think I can try and port my numbers out of Verizon if the account is locked. I really don't want to lose my number and my family's numbers if they do close my account.
don't sweat the lawsuit talk we were discussing paypal and buyer chargebacks through ebay/paypal so nothing do do with big red. good luck and thanks for sharing!
Cnotes? Is that you? Did you create a troll account to dissuade anyone else from creating new UDP lines so you could corner the market?
Come on buddy, fess up!
Let me tell you if the jig is up on this, I will be singing the blues. I finally find a friend who can get me one of these AND my local Apple store has one in stock and I text him to get on it and get me one and what happens? HE IS TOO BUSY WATCHING FOOTBALL TO READ MY TEXT AND BY THE TIME HE ORDERS IT IT IS GONE!!!!!lol and your not singing
FML.
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