Nov 17-24 on a 12:10am order. I remember last year AT&T/Verizon opened early as well, but then a lot of people got screwed on actual delivery. I've always trusted the Apple Store or website for preorders, and realistically, I'll get it before Nov 17th (I hope).
Just annoyed w/the whole IUP program when they postpone the phone release, so now I've made 2 extra payments on a phone I'm trading in, and then am paying for a phone that's now a few weeks out from launch again. Now next year ift they release in Sept, I make another 1-2 extra payments to "be eligible".
Smart me would just keep my 7+

But I signed up for IUP so I could get a new phone annually and not deal w/Craigslist on the old one. Not turning out to be as fiscally sound, haha.