Apple Debuts Revamped 'Switch' Site to Lure Android Users to iPhone [Update: New Videos Added]

[NeonHD]

No, I am saying they don’t care. Even many of the technical-minded people I know keep everything vanilla. It are mostly the enthusiasts that are doing this.

I would object. I remember in high school my friend got a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini, and you know how laggy and unoptimized Samsung's launcher is, so I told my friend to install a third party launcher from the play store and it proved to be a better experience than the stock touchwiz launcher. Sometimes vanilla is not always better, and that really applies mostly to Samsung and LG's phones. Other android phones (such as Pixel, Nexus, Moto, Sony, HTC) should be great without any modifications.

 

[DakotaGuy]

No, it's not.

Also, the S8 doesn't matter, it has been a flop so far…

With sales of over five million in just the first few weeks of limited global availability, Samsung is already expected to tally 20 million sales by the halfway point of 2017, and as many as 60 million units by the end

http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/

Ok so maybe 5 million in the first few weeks and a projected 60 million by the end of the year are lower then what we'd expect from Apple, but it's certainly not a flop.

Heck Apple could just introduce a 7S next year and it's fans would be lining in for hours for the latest and greatest. In fact, Apple would be smart to push the 8 off another year. It would mean a lot of one year upgrades. If your selling a brand like iPhone use it as hard as you can for maximum profit. Why not?

 

[B4U]

Never did that in my life

Well, just because it did not happen to you, it does not mean the issue is not there; otherwise no one would complain about it, right?

 

[Fozziebear71]

Sorry Apple, I'm definitely not coming back. The last few months with a Pixel XL have been great. The best part is not having to install iTunes cancer on my PC and being able to copy media from any PC I wish has been liberating.

Yet you will keep coming back to Apple enthusiast forums and keep telling everyone who will listen that you are never coming back to Apple products.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

You clearly don't get it do you. I'm sick and tired of you guys comparing the removal of the 3.5mm jack to other entirely different hardware changes such as the shift from the 32-pin to 8-pin port or what you just said. There's an obvious difference, and it's that there is NO replacement for the 3.5mm headphone jack, it's GONE. The shift away from physical keyboards was replaced by virtual keyboards, and the shift away from clickable physical home buttons was replaced by a home button that had a motor to mimic the physical click. Well now instead of a replacement for the 3.5mm audio jack, it is now merged into the 8-pin connector. THIS is the REAL problem.
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Please say it again for the folks in the back!!! This dude here just summed up the issue with the headphone jack removal and why quite a few of us are pissed about it being taken away

 

[0388631]

Desperation...

 

[Fozziebear71]

You clearly don't get it do you. I'm sick and tired of you guys comparing the removal of the 3.5mm jack to other entirely different hardware changes such as the shift from the 32-pin to 8-pin port or what you just said. There's an obvious difference, and it's that there is NO replacement for the 3.5mm headphone jack, it's GONE. The shift away from physical keyboards was replaced by virtual keyboards, and the shift away from clickable physical home buttons was replaced by a home button that had a motor to mimic the physical click. Well now instead of a replacement for the 3.5mm audio jack, it is now merged into the 8-pin connector. THIS is the REAL problem.
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Did your iPhone not come with the little half inch adaptor that enables you to use your old headphones? Or better yet, did your iPhone not come with the lightning earbuds?

 

[KALLT]

I would object. I remember in high school my friend got a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini, and you know how laggy and unoptimized Samsung's launcher is, so I told my friend to install a third party launcher from the play store and it proved to be a better experience than the stock touchwiz launcher. Sometimes vanilla is not always better, and that really applies mostly to Samsung and LG's phones. Other android phones (such as Pixel, Nexus, Moto, Sony, HTC) should be great without any modifications.

I’d say substituting a launcher in an attempt to improve system performance is different from trying out launchers for aesthetics or overall experience; with the former it is incidental to the desire to get rid of underperforming software.

This is also what I meant with inconsistent experience from manufacturer to manufacturer. Buying an Android phone involves considering a lot of variables, many of which you cannot foresee, such as future updates, poorly performing preinstalled software, a weak CPU, insufficient RAM and so forth. Android is also defined by its diversity of ROMs and a lack of effective control by the principal developer Google.

If I were to recommend an Android phone to someone, I just wouldn’t know where to start. I’d have to explain too many caveats. There seems to be no gold standard among them, every year new cards are on the table. iPhone is a lot more predictable and stable in that regard.

 

[appleman1988]

Apple releasing/revamping this ''Switch'' site just a few weeks after the release of the new Samsung S8.

Coincidence??

I dont think so...

"Life is easier on iPhone'', not at all Apple. After 7 years using every new released iPhone I can tell you my life is much, much more easier (and a lot more productive) with my new S8 then every other iPhone from the past.

"Why is iPhone so fast'', no Apple. My new S8 is in some cases even faster/smoother then any of my previous iPhone 7 (or any of my earlier iPhones)

That 2nd video is pure nonsense

You can't be serious...

Cool, you enjoy your S8....fine. Cool, it has a lot of innovative features...fine. Cool, you were bored with iPhone...fine.

But the iPhone is WAAAAY faster than the Samsung phones... TouchWiz, more like LagWiz. It was HORRIBLE on my friends S7 Edge and I just had a relative get an S8 Plus and the lag is still there. And no, they aren't lemons. I personally owned three and I moved to iPhone starting with the 6 and I've never looked back. It's just not for me. What you get in features is not making up for the lag, stutter, and overall hiccups of Samsung's twisted version of Android (which is already poorer in resource management). Even those 2 second lags add up over time, costing you either productivity or just annoyance when you are trying to just mess with your phone for fun and entertainment. It matters. At least it should.

The S8 may have more features and everything, but the iPhone is still by far the fastest phone, and you can thank iOS's optimization and the sleekness of the operating system for that. iPhone has less RAM than most top tier androids and yet it smokes them in terms of buttery smooth performance. It is really not even a contest. Go with iPhone if you want fast.

The S8 is a great phone, but it DOES still lag, even more than a Pixel, which is by far the fastest android phone (still not iPhone level of speed but close). But Samsung and speed/fast don't belong in the same sentence. Just no. Please no.

I'm sorry, but I call it like it is.

 

[liz..]

Capture precious moment ... iPhone locked. Thanks to stupid Ive symmetry for 3 years now.

You know you can use either volume button, right?

 

[robbyx]

Sorry Apple, I'm definitely not coming back. The last few months with a Pixel XL have been great. The best part is not having to install iTunes cancer on my PC and being able to copy media from any PC I wish has been liberating.

You can do this on an iPhone with WALTR. It's a great app. I'm totally over iTunes as well and refuse to use the abomination that is iCloud Music Library. So I switched to Swinsian (I'm on a Mac) for music library management, Cessium on the iPhone for my music player, and WALTR to effortless drag and drop media files to my iPhone. WALTR transcodes if necessary and uses the native Apple apps, so I can play my music in Apple's crap music player, but I prefer Cessium.

I'm a music buyer, but I like streaming for trying out new albums before I buy CDs or FLAC files and I've chosen Google Play, again to avoid the abomination and library destroying nightmare that is iCloud Music Library. I can keep my entire library in the cloud without fear of Google messing with my home server library, meta-data, etc.
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Honestly I find iOS being structured and boring to be a great feature. It's great that I can pick up any iOS device and I know exactly how to get to wherever I need to go. It's very useful for helping people. I use to love fooling around with devices, and I still enjoy that sometimes, but at the end of the day I'd rather not have to.
Now if Apple Music wouldn't jack with my library.

I agree with your sentiments on iOS. Consistency is nice. I'm not interested in tinkering with or customizing my phone. I just want it to work with as little maintenance as possible. When I was younger and found technology more interesting (back in the Apple II and early Mac days), I enjoyed tinkering, but today I feel the opposite. It's such a waste of time. Empty calories. So I want boring, stable, consistent, and reliable.

As for Apple Music, I ditched it because it kept messing up my library. Swinsian (Mac) + WALTR (Mac/Windows) + Cessium (iOS) = freedom!

 

[Suckfest 9001]

You can't be serious...

Cool, you enjoy your S8....fine. Cool, it has a lot of innovative features...fine. Cool, you were bored with iPhone...fine.

But the iPhone is WAAAAY faster than the Samsung phones... TouchWiz, more like LagWiz. It was HORRIBLE on my friends S7 Edge and I just had a relative get an S8 Plus and the lag is still there. And no, they aren't lemons. I personally owned three and I moved to iPhone starting with the 6 and I've never looked back. It's just not for me. What you get in features is not making up for the lag, stutter, and overall hiccups of Samsung's twisted version of Android (which is already poorer in resource management). Even those 2 second lags add up over time, costing you either productivity or just annoyance when you are trying to just mess with your phone for fun and entertainment. It matters. At least it should.

The S8 may have more features and everything, but the iPhone is still by far the fastest phone, and you can thank iOS's optimization and the sleekness of the operating system for that. iPhone has less RAM than most top tier androids and yet it smokes them in terms of buttery smooth performance. It is really not even a contest. Go with iPhone if you want fast.

The S8 is a great phone, but it DOES still lag, even more than a Pixel, which is by far the fastest android phone (still not iPhone level of speed but close). But Samsung and speed/fast don't belong in the same sentence. Just no. Please no.

I'm sorry, but I call it like it is.

Pretty much. It's not just TouchPiss that's the problem, it's how Android is written in general.

I mean, look at this:

The S8 has twice the RAM, 4 (!) times the CPU cores, and much higher clock rates. And it still gets utterly destroyed in that comparison.

Samsung's approach has always been throwing ridiculous hardware at software issues, and this time is no exception.

 

[OneMike]

Well, just because it did not happen to you, it does not mean the issue is not there; otherwise no one would complain about it, right?

Not necessarily, in response to the no one would complain part. Some people just like to complain for the sake of complaining. Many who probably don't even have an iPhone.

 

[LovingTeddy]

My experience with the S8 in stores begs to differ. It's still a laggy POS experience, thanks to the whole VM mess.

inb4 "ya but don't judge store display models" and why not? iPhone display models are always flawless. Just because the phone is capable of being ruined by installing a handful of apps or widgets doesn't mean it gets a free pass.

It's business as usual with Samsung and their S8: beautiful hardware ruined by some of the worst software in the industry.

I am not to too sure about Samsung S8... I have no desire on getting one either. Though Android as hole has changes leaps and bounds for past few years.

For past couple years, I used all generations of Moto X and Moto G, I also picked up few Huawei phones and Nexus phone. Recently brought ZTE Axon and Axon 7. These are great phone offers true value and performe greatly.

 

[MrNomNoms]

Given the latest security scare in the computer world I am surprised that Apple isn't trumpeting the fact that iPhone's receive updates faster and without delays when compared to the Android world - something that I think a lot of people are concerned about when it comes to device security.

 

[LovingTeddy]

You can't be serious...

Cool, you enjoy your S8....fine. Cool, it has a lot of innovative features...fine. Cool, you were bored with iPhone...fine.

But the iPhone is WAAAAY faster than the Samsung phones... TouchWiz, more like LagWiz. It was HORRIBLE on my friends S7 Edge and I just had a relative get an S8 Plus and the lag is still there. And no, they aren't lemons. I personally owned three and I moved to iPhone starting with the 6 and I've never looked back. It's just not for me. What you get in features is not making up for the lag, stutter, and overall hiccups of Samsung's twisted version of Android (which is already poorer in resource management). Even those 2 second lags add up over time, costing you either productivity or just annoyance when you are trying to just mess with your phone for fun and entertainment. It matters. At least it should.

The S8 may have more features and everything, but the iPhone is still by far the fastest phone, and you can thank iOS's optimization and the sleekness of the operating system for that. iPhone has less RAM than most top tier androids and yet it smokes them in terms of buttery smooth performance. It is really not even a contest. Go with iPhone if you want fast.

The S8 is a great phone, but it DOES still lag, even more than a Pixel, which is by far the fastest android phone (still not iPhone level of speed but close). But Samsung and speed/fast don't belong in the same sentence. Just no. Please no.

I'm sorry, but I call it like it is.

For what I looked at the thread... It became apparent to me that all you people out know about Samsung and trush Android by referencing S8.

There are lot more choice beside Samsung phone. I never liked Samsung phone and will own one. Though for all the flagship Android phone out there, like LG GY, V20, HTC U 11, OnePlus 3T and soon One Plus 5, Huawei Mate 9 and P10. Down to affordable Moto G, Moto Z Play, Huawei Honor 8, ZTE Axon 7 etc.

Lots of high end Android phone are on par with iPhone in terms of performance.
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Given the latest security scare in the computer world I am surprised that Apple isn't trumpeting the fact that iPhone's receive updates faster and without delays when compared to the Android world - something that I think a lot of people are concerned about when it comes to device security.

In the same time, lots of PC infected were Windows XP or Windows 7. If same thing happen to iOS or Mac world, it would disaster, since Apple generally not maintain security update to old software.

You have to give Microsoft credit where they actually release update to Windows XP for fixing the particular exploit. If it is Apple, then gold luck with that.


So there goes your security concern and I absolutely refuse update my iPhone 6S past iOS 10. iOS 11 probably will be a lagfast on 6S like iOS 10 did to my iPhone 6.

 

[PaulRustad007]

I would object. I remember in high school my friend got a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini, and you know how laggy and unoptimized Samsung's launcher is, so I told my friend to install a third party launcher from the play store and it proved to be a better experience than the stock touchwiz launcher. Sometimes vanilla is not always better, and that really applies mostly to Samsung and LG's phones. Other android phones (such as Pixel, Nexus, Moto, Sony, HTC) should be great without any modifications.

Back when I was in high school, all phones had cords attached to the walls. Beepers were almost in vogue...it was another 2-3 years for those to become fashionable......

 

[PBRsg]

Android is ugly and uninspired. It really makes you appreciate what goes into making iOS so seemless and subtle in its beauty.

I couldn't agree more. To me, Android has always felt utilitarian and unloved. The iPhone feels like the exact opposite. I never understood why Google could not hire a world class team of designers to make Android look great. Absolutely uninspiring.

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Likewise some think iOS is ugly and uninspired.

Most people agree that the iPhone looks better. That includes the majority of Android users.

 

[Soccertess]

Tim should just resort to begging Apple customers to stay.

Maybe Tim should try and bring back innovation to Apple. EVEN Walter Isaacson agrees that Apple isn't the most innovative company any more! Why would people switch to an inferior system.

Only Apple denialists on this forum keep trying to defend Tim's dynasty.

 

[Col4bin]

Contradictorily enough, over the past couple years, I've had an increasing desire to try out an Android phone. Not that I dislike my 7 Plus, it's just over the past 10 years, I now find iOS structured and boring.

After five years of iPhones and iOS I went to Android with a Nexus 6 running Lollipop, Mashmallow and Nougat. While I loved the device itself (expect its camera), I grew tired of Android's imperfections and wonkiness over a 2+ year period. This winter I moved back to iOS with a shiny new iPhone 7 Plus and it was like coming home after being away. Yes the grass is always greener, but after having a chance to try both OS', iOS takes the cake IMO.
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TRUE! If only they made a inexpensive adapter... then I could just put the adapter on and I wouldn't have to keep complaining about it.. someday Apple, Some day..

Didn't your iPhone 7/Plus come with a 3.5mm > Lightning port adapter?

 

[emm386]

iPhone ares selling at a slower pace than the market is growing - or in other words - Apple are losing market share.

Sounds like a desperate move to me.

Battery performance on my iPhone? This feels like a slap in the face for every Active Sync Exchange - user.. 2 days I can EASILY achieve with my "crappy android phone". Which is under NO circumstances possible with my iPhone.

Neither my iPhone nor my "crappy android phone" are slow yet... They sure will be, though, in a couple of years of software updates... or does the new iPhone run on pixie dust now, that prevents if the from slowing down when running later software releases then it was ever intended to run?

Also Google offers free unlimited cloud storage for pictures, something they probably did not dare to compare in their videos...

 

[tech4all]

Most people agree that the iPhone looks better. That includes the majority of Android users.

Got a source to support those claims?

 

[MrX8503]

Apple releasing/revamping this ''Switch'' site just a few weeks after the release of the new Samsung S8.

Coincidence??

I dont think so...

"Life is easier on iPhone'', not at all Apple. After 7 years using every new released iPhone I can tell you my life is much, much more easier (and a lot more productive) with my new S8 then every other iPhone from the past.

"Why is iPhone so fast'', no Apple. My new S8 is in some cases even faster/smoother then any of my previous iPhone 7 (or any of my earlier iPhones)

That 2nd video is pure nonsense

 

[MrNomNoms]

In the same time, lots of PC infected were Windows XP or Windows 7. If same thing happen to iOS or Mac world, it would disaster, since Apple generally not maintain security update to old software.

You have to give Microsoft credit where they actually release update to Windows XP for fixing the particular exploit. If it is Apple, then gold luck with that.

So there goes your security concern and I absolutely refuse update my iPhone 6S past iOS 10. iOS 11 probably will be a lagfast on 6S like iOS 10 did to my iPhone 6.

Read and repeat after me:

Updates and upgrades are free
Updates and upgrades are free
Updates and upgrades are free
Updates and upgrades are free

You had to pay to upgrade from Windows XP or Windows 7 where as in the Mac world you can upgrade/update macOS for free with devices that are 6 years old still supported by the latest version of macOS. Btw, I raised the issue of Windows and the recent security fiasco as not an attack on Microsoft but to use it as an example of security being at the forefront for many 'normal people'. By the way, cut the crap and stop excusing the piss poor job that Google and it's OEM's do when it comes to getting updates out on time - the April update STILL has not arrived to Samsung phones in New Zealand with neither of the three big carriers receiving the software update for testing. Again, cut the crap.

 

[Geert76]

yeah, everyone is posting that video.

You're right, the way the videomaker is using these 2 phones is a very common smartphone usage. I think the majority of people is using their phone like this...opening about 15/20 apps at the same time

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Most people agree that the iPhone looks dated and dull. That includes the majority of Android users.

jup, true.
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Read and repeat after me:

Updates and upgrades are free
Updates and upgrades are free
Updates and upgrades are free
Updates and upgrades are free

Apple's updates are always the Holy Grail.
They NEVER tend to either slow down older devices and/or causes NEVER more battery drain (iOS 10.3.X)