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Apple Delays Leopard Release

Allotriophagy said:
It's surprising that removing "Computer" from their name was not followed up by replacing it with "Gadgets and Gizmos Only".
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My sentiments exactly! Drop "Computer" from their name and neglect real mac enthusiasts to grab a less than faithful mobile market. Apple needs to remember that its recent surge in market share is in large part due to "show and tell" (word of mouth) from its loyal customers.

While the iPhone is very innovative, it only appeals to a certain market (Cingular users in particular). APPLE... stick to what has made you great. Develop quality machines and software.

P.S. This is my first post on this forum. I'm a regular reader, but created an account just to vent about how much I disapprove of this move by Apple.
 
dmelgar said:
Why not? They're a consumer electronics company. Santa Rosa coming out in May. At the brisk development pace Apple has set this year, it can easily take them 5 months to rework new Macs for an October splash. But by then, Leopard maybe delayed after all the complaints of missing "secret" features that won't be shown in June.
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Re new Macs: agreed! But I referred to upgrades. Apple may be unpredictable, but they're not irresponsible. I think we're bound to see significant upgrades across the entire Mac range quite soon. Those checking out MR's "Buyer's Guide" will see just how overdue upgrades to iMacs & minis are. A staggered release of good Mac things makes complete sense & will cushion the disappointment of Leopard's delay.

Will Leopard's delay affect my buying plans? Not in the slightest! Tiger's more than good enough, but I'll still wait until June's WWDC at the latest & then either buy an updated Intel Mac or a PC. I'll either end up with 2 Macs, or Mac & PC; that simple (& maybe get a Mac refurb with Leopard next year).

Life's too short to be hung up by these matters. Still, I can't help but continue to be dismayed by Apple's dithering because of a smart-phone that even most Mac users seem to have very little interest in. IMO, Apple have made a mistake & if a well-received Vista SP1 edition surfaces before October, the excellent gains of the past year could well be lost.

Re opinions that multi-touch screen technology could be implemented in Leopard & new iMacs, etc. Perhaps, to some degree, but maybe it'll be limited to new cinema display units. Frankly, I fail to appreciate what it is that ordinary people want to do with multi-touch technology that they can't already do with a keyboard, & would be prepared to pay extra for.

How great a demand would there really be for such a gimmick? Will a $1,199 (£799 here) 17" iMac still be possible with that type of technology? Just look at HP's TouchSmart (touch-screen, not multi-touch) which sells at about $2,400 (£1,299 here). Some people think Apple's computers are expensive enough as it is without adding even more expensive gimmicks. - Enough from me on this.
 
Allotriophagy said:
It's surprising that removing "Computer" from their name was not followed up by replacing it with "Gadgets and Gizmos Only".
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Take a deep breath ... and ... relaaaaax.

There's something deeper going on here, and we're not yet party to what it is. But if you take a step back and squint, then, just maybe, you can get a sense of the shape of it.

Various consumer electronics heavyweights have been casting around directionlessly trying with little success to grab hold of the 'convergence' grail, the mystical all-in-one home/work/entertainment/pda/computer/phone gizmo that tech experts have been wittering on about for at least ten years.

One of the key reasons that no-one has succeeded is because no-one actually knows what this holy-grail-gizmo is.

But ... when I squint at this, it looks to me like Apple are not trying to chase smoke like everyone else, they're trying to define the direction of 'convergence'.

It looks to me like they've accepted that (for now) there isn't anything that can do it all at once, but that you can achieve much the same effect with a relatively small number of well-designed gizmos and some software. And if you can get it all To Just Work (TM) then you can stitch up the market.

Now, look again at iTunes, iPod, iPhone, :apple:TV ... there's a little ecosystem in the making here, and I believe that it's going to have the Mac, and OSX at the heart of it.

Cheers!

Jim
 
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Sad my first post here should have to be about Apple delaying 10.5.

At work we are working to bring Apple into our enterprise environment so I do truly hope this isn't a signification that Apple has decided to step back from the Computer Technology world and get into the Consumer Electronics market exclusively.

October will tell!

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ac-mac said:
Does this mean we can continue running the boot camp beta until October?
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Seems like apple haven't gotten rid of all of their Leopard Spring release dates yet

Apple.com said:
Thank you for your interest in Boot Camp and for downloading the Boot Camp Beta software. We hope you enjoy evaluating this software and appreciate your comments and suggestions. Boot Camp is just one of many new features in Mac OS X Leopard, the next major release of Mac OS X, due out by Spring of 2007. You can learn more about the additional features of Leopard by visiting the Mac OS X Leopard web site.

After you finish installing Boot Camp, we invite you to install Apple's iTunes and QuickTime for Windows as well. To download these Windows applications, visit www.apple.com/itunes/ and www.apple.com/quicktime/ using your favorite Windows web browser.
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I think apple will enable boot camp to be downloaded and installed up until October.

Edit: Just downloaded Boot Camp and right in the T&C's in the installer is your answer

Boot Camp Installer said:
3. Term of License. The term of this License shall commence upon your installation or use of the Apple Software and will terminate automatically without notice from Apple upon the next commercial release of the Apple Software, or September 30, 2007, whichever occurs first. Your rights under this License will also terminate automatically without notice from Apple if you fail to comply with any term(s) of this License. Upon the termination of this License, you shall cease all use of the Apple Software and destroy all copies, full or partial, of the Apple Software.
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We now know atleast one thing: Mac OS X isn't the first on Apple's priority list.

As a company, this is inevitable.

However, I don't have to understand the company.
As a Mac user, I'm saddened by it.
 
Lepton said:
OK, so the schedule will be that they announce Leopard's secret features at WWDC and give everybody a beta copy including the secret features that people will be happy to find is very usable indeed. They just needed some final fixes and QA testing. They will also show the final iPhone at WWDC and start taking orders immediately for delivery in late June. Leopard will be released in September. They could have delayed it 2 months instead of 3 but wanted to be conservative because the iPhone will get some nice tweaks and updates very soon after release, those updates coming to all phones automatically over the air for free of course.
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I don't remember reading that Apple will release any secret features. I really don't expect any 'secret' features to be released until Sep just before the new release date for Leopard because these 'secret' features are probably unnecessary for most developers to know about unless they are writing plugins for iLife/iPhone/Apple TV, or some other proprietary Apple technology. Of course, this is just my speculation. I also expect Leopard to be given an in-depth demonstration in Sep.--after iPhone bugs have been worked out--but still not released until Oct. As stated, I suspect many 'secret' features have to do with Apple's interoperability within its own products (i.e., iPhone, Apple TV, iLife, something else?).
 
I don't mind waiting seriously. Tiger is awesome in what it does so I'm not in any hurry to jump up yet.

In fact, Vista isn't too bad after you tweak the settings a lot. It's a little smoother now :D
 
Gurutech said:
We now know atleast one thing: Mac OS X isn't the first on Apple's priority list.
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At this moment, no it's not. And there's not wrong with that. Reason being that they made a HUGE product-announcement few months ago. Leopard is just an update to their old OS, iPhone is a brand-new product in a brand-new market. Should they REALLY focus on a mere update to their OS, as opposed of brining out their next killer-device?
 
I keep hearing everyone whining about getting a new mac with leopard. this is not like a pc where you need a new computer to run the operating system. apple will make sure that this thing will work on G4s.

there is no way they will introduce any sort of touch screen interface because SJ has personally stated his hatred for tablets

once you have your computer with tiger set up the way you like it, you can easily upgrade to leopard in under 30 minutes.

there is so much bitching by people who do not seem to know what they are talking about.

hopefully apple still releases the badly needed hardware updates in every line.

and i will install leopard no problem in a rev a imac g5 that originally came with panther.

if everyone NEEDS a new computer so bad, BUY ONE it will NOT become obsolete when leopard comes out.

just remember that apple is not microsoft!
 
It's funny how all of the other Hot News items have a rotating link on Apples homepage. I wonder how that happened?:rolleyes:
Like a communist county concealing the bad news and saying everything is going wonderfully.:(
 
OK, thread slowing down.... Did we get it all out? Feeling better? Good.

What Microsoft SHOULD have announced late last year (In hindsight, based on the results):

"Microsoft will delay the introduction of Vista for a few months in order to shift resources to Zune, which needs all the help it can get..."
 
Val-kyrie said:
... I suspect many 'secret' features have to do with Apple's interoperability within its own products (i.e., iPhone, Apple TV, iLife, something else?).
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There's something I've wondered about since the iPhone was introduced.

Given how tightly compartmentalized Apple is in product development, one hand not knowing what the other is doing, what are the odds the this delay in Leopard is to allow changes to Mac programs such as iCal and Address Book in order to more fully integrate with iPhone?
 
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