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You show little understanding of the EU, how it works, and make an excuse for Apple and Ireland to breach its laws. You go on accusing them of picking on Apple and ignore the fact Ireland and ergo Apple breached EU laws. Yes why should the EU collect billions in taxes it’s owed eh? Just make all the Europeans pay it.. so long as greedy Apple is protected at all costs, are you a share holder or something?

I understand the history of the region my friend. The EU selectively enforces laws when it needs cash. Focus on the cancer growing from within the EU. Not Apple. ;)
 
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Couldn't agree more. It's pathetic. Anything to protect his $ and his shareholders, unless those views are in any way, shape, or form conservative.
That's not what he said. He was saying that Tim is conservative himself (in otherwords greedy) when it comes to money. Conservatives are not victims, you can stop.
 
LOL - you have a lot of faith in the court system - LOL!!!
I guess is more that extraordinary claims require for extraordinary supporting arguments. If someone claims the courts' decision is politically driven they also have to provide some very good arguments supporting such claim. So far, no such supporting argument has been provided as far as I've read.
 
I understand the history of the region my friend. The EU selectively enforces laws when it needs cash. Focus on the cancer growing from within the EU. Not Apple. ;)
There is no selective enforcement in the case the EU brought against the Irish tax deals with Apple: only Apple is involved because the tax deals were exclusive to Apple and didn't apply to other companies.

Other companies not being able to enjoy such favourable deals is exactly the reason why these deals have been declared illegal state aids: if the deals were available to all companies without discrimination they would not have been illegal and the EU wouldn't have a case.
 
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There is no selective enforcement in the case the EU brought against the Irish tax deals with Apple: only Apple is involved because the tax deals were exclusive to Apple and didn't apply to other companies.

Other companies not being able to enjoy such favourable deals is exactly the reason why these deals have been declared illegal state aids: if the deals were available to all companies without discrimination they would not have been illegal and the EU wouldn't have a case.

Exactly, but no people will just claim Apple is being picked on..

It’s like Walmart in the US being told it doesn’t have to pay ANY tax and instead all other Americans will pay for their taxes, I’m sure Americans would be upset then no?
 
It’s like Walmart in the US being told it doesn’t have to pay ANY tax and instead all other Americans will pay for their taxes, I’m sure Americans would be upset then no?
Not to mention Wallmart's competitors, which would effectively have to compete with a company enjoying a significantly lower taxation compared to them.
 
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Exactly, but no people will just claim Apple is being picked on..

It’s like Walmart in the US being told it doesn’t have to pay ANY tax and instead all other Americans will pay for their taxes, I’m sure Americans would be upset then no?

that already happens, not only for walmart
 
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If the extent of vandalism was some spray on snow on the outside glass of a store, then surely going as far as a High Court is overkill and makes Apple look like a bully.
 
"The order states that the mere presence of protesters at Apple's stores in France, without violence, vandalism, or customers being blocked from entering the premises,..."

During a stunt at an Apple store in Aix-en-Provence last November, for example, activists painted "pay your taxes" on the glass windows.

...
 
It's still defacing private property (permanent or temporary damage) which defeats the whole "peaceful protest from the sidewalk" concept, don't you think? I'm all in favour of peaceful protest but if you want to be respected for your viewpoint and be taken seriously, don't go breaking the other guy's $h!t...

They didn't break anything.
I find it to be pathetic to sue for this, most Europeans just shrug this off, even the judge did, I think you call this frivolous lawsuits.
Ah yes, reminds me of sue happy America.
It's probably 0.0000001% of their profit to clean those windows, negligible.
 
I hate this garbage. If you don't like "tax avoidance", hound your politicians. If you think Apple, et al, are breaking a law, enforce the law. This is just hobbyist protesting.
 
That isn't violence, that is self defense.
Defense against what? Truly non-violent protests can end prematurely without violence from either side. Just wait until robots are deployed to scoop up protesters. Will they then claim that the robots were attacking them without cause?
 
Coming from someone completely comfortable with stealing Apple IP for his "hackintosh." But that's OK, right? It's not greed if you want to steel someone else's hard work via using their intellectual property the way you see fit? Rationalize away...

My rationale? I don't care. Apple's got enough money. If they made a good computer at an affordable price, I'd buy it.
 
I hate this garbage. If you don't like "tax avoidance", hound your politicians. If you think Apple, et al, are breaking a law, enforce the law. This is just hobbyist protesting.
This is not a comment on this particular action or this particular group but a more general one:
  • Sometimes lobbying your politicians is done indirectly by shining a spotlight on companies like Apple. Merely by keeping this issue in the media and thus the public's mind, politicians are under greater pressure to change the rules. It also puts pressure on Apple which can lead to them scale back their lobbying efforts on this subject.
 
There is no selective enforcement in the case the EU brought against the Irish tax deals with Apple: only Apple is involved because the tax deals were exclusive to Apple and didn't apply to other companies.

Other companies not being able to enjoy such favourable deals is exactly the reason why these deals have been declared illegal state aids: if the deals were available to all companies without discrimination they would not have been illegal and the EU wouldn't have a case.

Ireland entering into the deal with Apple only became an issue when Brussels needed revenue. It was declared illegal state aid long after it was initiated. Brussels saw a disturbing trend that threatened to diminish it's Oligarchic Rule over the EU.

The Nation States within the EU require more autonomy if it is to survive. :apple:
 
Not relevant, fact is you have freedom of speech in Europe, glad the judge denied Apple's request.
Seems that painting stuff on someone else's property would violate some kind of law.
[doublepost=1519519468][/doublepost]So Apple can have people paint disagreements to the EU on the windows of the European Commission?
 
Not relevant, fact is you have freedom of speech in Europe, glad the judge denied Apple's request.
False. Freedom of speech is severely limited in Europe. It is a farce. Try flying the swastika flag on your private property (in Germany), and you'd end up in jail. European censorship is so severe that Germany once banned an old version of the legendary PC/Mac game Castle Wolfenstein because the game (about killing Nazis) portrayed Nazi symbols and opening credits included a stanza from the Horst Wessel Lied.


In the USA, racist people can fly confederate and even nazi flags on their private property. Yes, they will be criticized for it, they will be shamed for doing so. But they cannot be arrested for a crime because the Constitution (First Amendment) protects their right.
 
So Walmart pays zero taxes in the US does it? None, nothing, nada. I do not believe that.

this may be a shocker for some, but corporations don't pay taxes. only people pay taxes.

corporations just offset whatever taxes are thrown into them to their prices... then people pay for those.
 
Ireland entering into the deal with Apple only became an issue when Brussels needed revenue. It was declared illegal state aid long after it was initiated. Brussels saw a disturbing trend that threatened to diminish it's Oligarchic Rule over the EU.

The Nation States within the EU require more autonomy if it is to survive. :apple:

The EU commission had carried out a 2 to 3 year investigation on member state sweetheart deals before its ruling to Ireland made in August 2016.
That is a far cry from the ideology that the EU picked on Apple to make a fast buck because they needed money.

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this may be a shocker for some, but corporations don't pay taxes. only people pay taxes.

corporations just offset whatever taxes are thrown into them to their prices... then people pay for those.

So they DO pay taxes then, simply claiming they make the customer pay those taxes is not the same thing.
 
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