Apple Design Chief Jony Ive Retaking Direct Control of Design Team [Updated]

[strategicthinke]

Nostalgia this is not. I have an iPhone 5 running iOS 6 and I can honestly tell you with the exception of today's additional features which are a given when compared to a five year old OS, it is a far more fluid, polished, snappy and enjoyable experience. And this is comparing it to the latest iPhone. It doesn't have micro stutters or lag everywhere and it doesn't have a poorly implemented, ameteur-level UI. Everyone has just forgotten how good it really was back then because we've become accustomed to the s**t show sloppyness that we have today.

Tell me about how you attach a file to the email. Or how you use the share sheet to interconnect apps.
Complexity comes with a higher risk of bugs. Still, iOS 9 onwards convinced me that the iPad can actually be a productivity machine. I’d always choose it over the polished-however-useless-for-a-power-user Forstall’s vision for iOS.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Software bugs will always happen. You should probably get used to it. What's important is that the people who release the software react quickly and fix the issue, which they did in about a day or so. Move on.

I know software bugs will always happen, I'm a software engineer myself. But asking to not be logged in as root with a blank password is not asking for "perfection".

 

[kmj2318]

I'm hoping he fixes the MacBook Pro. I think it's likely given his response to the feedback.

 

[JM]

I think he should design a happier face to pull when he’s having his picture taken!

No problem. That'll be $300.

And one where he's winking with glee.

 

[DNichter]

I know software bugs will always happen, I'm a software engineer myself. But asking to not be logged in as root with a blank password is not asking for "perfection".

Of course not, but it's not like this was some issue they had for weeks or months that caused a ton of problems. These things happen, and they reacted quickly. Expecting zero software bugs is unreasonable. I am sure you can attest to that.

 

[michaelsviews]

So we're going to see some NEW designs? Something NEW that will make user's gasp instead of the same old thing?
Love my MBP and iPhone but for what they charge is out of control. Guess the space ship went over budget

 

[MH01]

I know many others don't appreciate his direction over the years with the iPhone and other design concepts with hardware, but he truly is a genius with his visionary status with attention to detail and how he implements hardware having a modern appeal.

I'll be honest , his best work in my opinion was under Jobs. The iPhone X for me is sloppy apple , they were number one in UX , and it's slipping .... you can't have awesome hardware design if it has UX ????

 

[michaelsviews]

I'm hoping he fixes the MacBook Pro. I think it's likely given his response to the feedback.

15" MBP with OUT the touch bar

 

[KingslayerG5]

Ive's best days are behind him. It's like trying to get Kobe Bryant back from basketball retirement.

I'm no longer confident with his input after iOS7. His best years were under Jobs from 1997-2011.

 

[MH01]

Software bugs will always happen. You should probably get used to it. What's important is that the people who release the software react quickly and fix the issue, which they did in about a day or so. Move on.

That bug was not live for a day...... I admire your acceptance to have huge security wholes in your mac.... up until someone makes it public . Did you consider the Scenario of it not going public and you mac having a huge security problem?

Me , I'd prefer proper testing to reaction... by the time these things go public , it can be way to late.

FYI - major security exploits are know long in advance , when you hear about it, companies have already prepared patches . This was not a one day reaction - fix

 

[femike]

Johnny will be busy correcting all the mis-steps that Tim approved to please the board and shareholder masters.

 

[BaccaBossMC]

This man really needs to take the place of Tim Crook. CEOs of great companies aren't the sales personnel, they are the engineers that make the products. Look at what Razer and Tesla have done.

 

[jdclifford]

Maybe he will get rid of that awful notch on iPhone X. We can only hope.

 

[tongxinshe]

yes.

Actually he never was in charge of macOS.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Actually he never was in charge of macOS.

actually he was in charge of OS X before iOS software.

 

[Rocketman]

This is good news. If he can do a 1099 on Scott Forstall on "outside projects", that might be a feature. Steve was "all in" on Jony Ive and Tim Cook.

 

[pat500000]

I want him to refocus on mac pro.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Of course not, but it's not like this was some issue they had for weeks or months that caused a ton of problems. These things happen, and they reacted quickly. Expecting zero software bugs is unreasonable. I am sure you can attest to that.

i never said they're slow, and i never said i'm expecting zero software bugs. but logging in as root with a blank password is one of the first things QA engineers check (it's actually one of the basic types of interview questions for QA engineers would be asked to check).

also, while their reaction to the security fix was fast, it was handled improperly as users that installed the root fix needed to reinstall yet again, creating even more of a mess: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/01/macos-high-sierra-root-fix-reinstall-10-13-1/

 

[Since1987]

Johnny will be busy correcting all the mis-steps that Tim approved to please the board and shareholder masters.

Therefore his first priority will be to kill the Mac Pro. In british terms, " he can't be bothered".

 

[shawnforever]

Just in: Steve Jobs coming back from the grave to re-take control of Apple, Inc.

 

[satchmo]

Yeah, those iPhone X's are to Dye for.

 

[marcusman1]

I like ole Jony Ive. Part of Jobs Team....

 

[RuffyYoshi]

So all the crap that's happening to iOS is due to the campus taking up time? Can we expect some competent work from now on, Jony and everyone else?

 

[simonmet]

and for Christmas: "Scott Forstall Retaking Direct Control of iOS and macOS Software Teams"

There was a lot of hate for Scott when he left yet now most of the criticism seems to be going the other way. Is this selective memory or has opinion really changed that much, and if so why?

 

[oliversl]

iOS 11 was getting some shadows and 3D action, now in iOS 12 we will go back to flat, white, boring and old design.

 

[DNichter]

That bug was not live for a day...... I admire your acceptance to have huge security wholes in your mac.... up until someone makes it public . Did you consider the Scenario of it not going public and you mac having a huge security problem?

Me , I'd prefer proper testing to reaction... by the time these things go public , it can be way to late.

FYI - major security exploits are know long in advance , when you hear about it, companies have already prepared patches . This was not a one day reaction - fix

Fair enough. My main point was just that these things happen and at the least, they fixed it. This isn’t a regular occurrence. I’m iOS only for my computing needs so I suppose I’m lucky in that regard.
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i never said they're slow, and i never said i'm expecting zero software bugs. but logging in as root with a blank password is one of the first things QA engineers check (it's actually one of the basic types of interview questions for QA engineers would be asked to check).

also, while their reaction to the security fix was fast, it was handled improperly as users that installed the root fix needed to reinstall yet again, creating even more of a mess: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/01/macos-high-sierra-root-fix-reinstall-10-13-1/

I’ll trust your judgement there. While it seems like a major oversight, I don’t see it as a normal occurrence.