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I'm convinced as of late that this "design" stuff is just a way to save cost of manufacture. Conditioning customers to think smaller is better means they think "less parts inside is better." What customer wouldn't actually prefer a MacBook was a little thicker and that space inside was used for a bigger battery and more ports on the sides.. But that bigger battery and those ports cost Apple money, So they remove them and call it "design"

This is a lot like "lite beer" The beer company executive who thought of this was a total genius. He figured out that customers will actually buy beer with water added if you call it "lite". Then I notice the Apple juice companies started making "lite" products too where they add water to reduce the calories. People buy it for the same price as the real thing.

I'm thinking that Apple's thin computers are really just "Lite Computes" where that take out battery size, removable RAM, the hard drive and ports and people will still buy them. Mr. Ive is a total genius but credit goes to the beer company executive for thinking of the idea first.
And what on earth does your characterization of "design" have to do with the Watch, the Pencil or the AirPods?

As for the MacBook, the LAST things I want are more weight and more ports. My use case (and I'm not alone) revolves less around "connecting" peripherals and more around mobility, wireless printing, wireless keyboards, mice or headphones, and cloud storage. I understand your wants and needs are different,
 
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For those complaining about Apple Pencil. They already include a way to charge it with a cord if you don’t want it sticking out of your iPad. And considering 15 seconds in the port give you 30 min of use....is it really the end of the world.

I’d love to hear what suggestions people have to charge A PENCIL. Would you like it to bend ? To be smaller? What? What the hell could anyone else here come up with that makes logical , practical sense given the circumstances of physics.

Please enlighten us all.
 
There was a lot of hate for Scott when he left yet now most of the criticism seems to be going the other way. Is this selective memory or has opinion really changed that much, and if so why?
Because most have forgotten (selectively blocked out due to traumatic memory) the skeuomorphic abominations that Forstall was obsessed with. And that he was a wannabe Jobs/prize ****** by all accounts but likewise easily forgotten.

In the interim, however, Ive's status internally continues to rise, but sadly along with patronising and laughable nonsense that's turned him into a bit of a parody, given a lot of Apple products over the last few years have been incremental at best, and riddled with issues at worst. Not to mention some very questionable "design" decisions.
 
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Most of the current Apple employees were under the dictatorship of Steve Jobs. They were SJ lemmings. None of them have a clue how to be a leader.

Ages
Tim Cook, 57
Phil Schiller, 57
Jony Ive, 50
Craig Federighi, 48

Jony is old. Get newer blood.

Steve Wozniak - 67
Paul Allen - 64
Bill Gates - 62
Steve Ballmer - 61
John Legere - 59
Andy Rubin - 54
Jeff Bezos - 53
Elon Musk - 46
Larry Page - 44
Sergey Brin - 44
Hugo Barra - 41
Mark Zuckerberg - 33

It's like trying to make Last Vegas and Going In Style with a bunch of old actors. Morgan Freeman making another Grumpy Old Men-like flick with Tommy Lee Jones and Rene Russo called Just Getting Started. Let's have Steve Rogers run Apple instead.

It's like trying to start an NBA team where your best player is 34 and most of his other All-Star teammates are 35 and above. That last sentence was at you LeBron if you want to have all of your Banana Boat pals on your team.

Face it, Apple needs fresh new minds. If SJ was alive today, he would be 62 but he would give direction to the company and push them beyond their potential. This is Steve predicting 21 years ago what Apple would become.. again.

Apple is starting to rot inside...
 
Most of the current Apple employees were under the dictatorship of Steve Jobs. They were SJ lemmings. None of them have a clue how to be a leader.

Ages
Tim Cook, 57
Phil Schiller, 57
Jony Ive, 50
Craig Federighi, 48

Jony is old. Get newer blood.

Steve Wozniak - 67
Paul Allen - 64
Bill Gates - 62
Steve Ballmer - 61
John Legere - 59
Andy Rubin - 54
Jeff Bezos - 53
Elon Musk - 46
Larry Page - 44
Sergey Brin - 44
Hugo Barra - 41
Mark Zuckerberg - 33

It's like trying to make Last Vegas and Going In Style with a bunch of old actors. Morgan Freeman making another Grumpy Old Men-like flick with Tommy Lee Jones and Rene Russo called Just Getting Started. Let's have Steve Rogers run Apple instead.

It's like trying to start an NBA team where your best player is 34 and most of his other All-Star teammates are 35 and above. That last sentence was at you LeBron if you want to have all of your Banana Boat pals on your team.

Face it, Apple needs fresh new minds. If SJ was alive today, he would be 62 but he would give direction to the company and push them beyond their potential. This is Steve predicting 21 years ago what Apple would become.. again.

Apple is starting to rot inside...
If you have to have surgery do you want a surgeon where this is their first surgery or an older experienced surgeon? edit: grammar
 
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Lovely. Apple never learns do they? Ive needs to be shown the front door with boot in his ass. His sloppy revision of iOS from 7 onward is testament to that. What's truly sad is that nobody will have the balls to call him out on his garbage at Apple so we can expect the next few iOS designs to get even worse with pretty pastels and even ******** UI decisions....
 
The reason I did not buy that ugly iPhone X, no Joe Ive! Cannot wait to see how cool the iPhone XI will be. So excited. /s
 
I think you'll find it was actually Scott Forstall who ousted Scott Forstall from Apple after ruining the iOS UX.
It's not fair to assume Scott wouldn't have moved on from skeuomorphism. He never had the chance to lead a redesign. Especially since iOS has a history of design tweaks every 3 versions.
 
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Pretty sure I remember switching to the Mac around 10.5.8. I have the install disk to prove it.
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You're right. OS X Security was at its best when even I didn't have my credit/band card details that week.

Okay. I'll give you the 10.5.8. You've got cred there.

But what did you do about all of that data you lost on 10.6.0? Did you ever recover it?
 
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