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Apple Director Jerome York Passes Away After Stroke

The Apple community is a tight knit one. When one of our own dies or is sick, we are there with our well wishes. I think that each and other one of us had our thoughts and prayers with Jobs when he had his surgery last year. Likewise, we all are with Apple and Jerry's family as they cope with the loss. I am proud to be a part of this community.
 
Pachang said:
I doubt that the people who get angry just because someone clicked a blue link on a webpage saying "positive" are worth the food their mother fed them.

Keep voting positive guys. I wanna see one of these guys hemorrhage in their emo rage and leave the food for the rest of us with a sense of humor.
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I know, huh? Like, when you die, it's gonna be a total laugh riot, dude! So funny! And I can have your food, too, because I have a sense of humor! Get it? I am entitled to your food because I think it will be funny when you're dead. Damn, all this laughing is making me so hungry.
 
NSMonkey said:
I know, huh? Like, when you die, it's gonna be a total laugh riot, dude! So funny! And I can have your food, too, because I have a sense of humor! Get it? I am entitled to your food because I think it will be funny when you're dead. Damn, all this laughing is making me so hungry.
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The General said:
maybe the people who are ranking this article positive are doing so because it has excellent grammar and stuff.
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OK, that was funny.

Before I get flamed for having already made a couple of "dark humor" comments about Mr. York's passing, I'd like to echo some of the other commenters here by saying that he apparently played a significant role in bringing Apple back from the brink of bankruptcy to it's current, unparalleled success. The tribute to his memory on the home page is impressive and entirely appropriate. I wish his family and friends well.
 
87 positives. 87. You're all sick you know that? It's not like this article got a few positives, or even up to 20, it got 87 as of now. Someone died and that's a positive thing? You really need some help. This probably one of the most despicable and disgusting things I've seen on MR. Bastards.

My thoughts go out to York's family, friends, and loved ones.
RIP.
 
For the love of god....

Could we please retire that ridiculous euphemism "passed away" once and for all? You'd think a company with as much taste as Apple demonstrates would have the balls to just say that Jerome York DIED. I mean, they might as well say "he's gone to Jesus" or "crossed into the great beyond."
 
mrkgoo said:
What if the positive is about this being reported? Not everyone who dies gets a mention.
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Your argument is two-fold, so my reply must be as well.

If the vote is in response to the reporting of the fact: Well, if it's for that reason, then fine. I however (apparently much like the other 90-odd percent of this sites readership) don't feel the need to express myself that way just to celebrate the reporting of something news-worthy. If everyone's logic worked that way we'd have an exorbitant amount of positive voting on everything - 'yay! it's another piece of news!'.

If of course, to counter your second point, you mean it's positive in the fact that its reporting on the life of someone influential that's just passed - a somewhat valid fact in this case, then again fine.

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However, my argument is that an article like this (or any other) should be rated by its contents and by the information that it puts across to the reader and it's according to this information that I would judge it by. In this case the the story is clear, Jerry York is dead. The appropriate response in any logical or proper emotive way is to approach this news with a level of sobriety, if it must be boiled down to a base level of being either positive or negative then it must, without a doubt, always be the latter.
 
mikeoc said:
Your argument is two-fold, so my reply must be as well.

If the vote is in response to the reporting of the fact: Well, if it's for that reason, then fine. I however (apparently much like the other 90-odd percent of this sites readership) don't feel the need to express myself that way just to celebrate the reporting of something news-worthy. If everyone's logic worked that way we'd have an exorbitant amount of positive voting on everything - 'yay! it's another piece of news!'.

If of course, to counter your second point, you mean it's positive in the fact that its reporting on the life of someone influential that's just passed - a somewhat valid fact in this case, then again fine.

Important bit:
However, my argument is that an article like this (or any other) should be rated by its contents and by the information that it puts across to the reader and it's according to this information that I would judge it by. In this case the the story is clear, Jerry York is dead. The appropriate response in any logical or proper emotive way is to approach this news with a level of sobriety, if it must be boiled down to a base level of being either positive or negative then it must, without a doubt, always be the latter.
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I was never informed of how to correctly use the positive/negative voting. Thus I generally never use it, nor pay attention to it.
 
Small White Car said:
But...but...

You just SAID it's negative here in your post! If you didn't want to annonomously vote negative on the main page why would you vote negatively in a post with your name on it?

Terrible story, and I wish his family the best, but I really don't understand your post.
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The story is obviously negative, a man has died suddenly and in one of the more unpleasant ways to go ... a way which I have lost two family members to in recent years, but you missed that point from your "go" at me.

Saying that the story, in it's entirety, as in that the man has passed away is a negative story ... it's an absolute shame and my heart goes out to his family.

However, I will not "vote" on a website on whether it's "Positive" or "Negative" in the eye of MacRumors running it. Two entirely different contexts, and if you can't see that then that's nothing to do with me.

Now, no more bickering please?
 
Not many companies would remove their entire front page, and a heavily trafficked one at that, for a member or employee.

mikeoc said:
However, my argument is... [removed entire paragraph]
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The fact you have to explain your thought process behind voting +1 or -1 says that its meaning is not intuitively apparent. There's no question attached to Positive vs Negative, so how can you chuck a tanty about people being sick when people don't even agree on what is being asked?
 
Bakey said:
Very noble indeed...

Although I still find it a crying shame that they didn't do the same for Jef Raskin...
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One was a member of the Board of Directors, one was an ex-employee who left the company 20 years earlier. You might as well complain about IBM and Chrysler, neither of which put the news about the death of their former CFO Jerome York on their front pages.

But as Mahatma Gandhi said: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." As sad as the news is for his family and his friends, this is not a bad way to go, just a bit early. Better to go when everyone is sad about it and when everyone feels it is a loss rather than waiting until everyone feels glad for you when you're gone.
 
mrkgoo said:
I was never informed of how to correctly use the positive/negative voting. Thus I generally never use it, nor pay attention to it.
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Yup, any system like this is amazingly open to the readers own interpretation. And you'll see from my previous response that I'm not out and out disagreeing with you either. It's just that I think that with regard to the subject matter any choice like this really should be pretty obvious - for the reason that I've already stated in my previous post.

I reckon that we probably think along relatively similar lines actually, I to have never felt the need to click either of those voting links. Just not necessary.

It's actually a rather interesting tangent and probably worthy of a separate thread/discussion but is getting somewhat off topic here so I'll leave it with wishing York's family my best wishes - for what that's worth.
 
Heh, I came in here just to chew all y'all out for voting Negative because I tend to assume Positive == a tribute/this is a worthwhile story vs Negative == "WTF is this crap doing on MacRumors!?" If I ran a site like this, I'd use positive/negative votes to determine whether the story was worthwhile or not (and whether to run similar stuff in future).. not if people "like" the news or not.

But it turns out we all have different ways of looking at it. In any case, don't assume positive voters are evil because that's unlikely to be true. I vote positive because I think this is a nice tribute to York and want to encourage these sorts of posts to be made in future.
 
cjboffoli97 said:
Could we please retire that ridiculous euphemism "passed away" once and for all? You'd think a company with as much taste as Apple demonstrates would have the balls to just say that Jerome York DIED. I mean, they might as well say "he's gone to Jesus" or "crossed into the great beyond."
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Yes, we should all immediately adopt cjboffoli97's arbitrary rules regarding permissible and impermissible language. He is aware of all internet traditions and may have once written a blog post about grammar, euphemisms and/or religion. So listen to him. He is obviously an expert.
 
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