You got hosed, man by the expert color swatch expert.
Seriously, are you buying only because of price bargain. Monitors are an investment value for the future not something which I treat lightly.
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Apple Discounts Cinema Displays
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You got hosed, man by the expert color swatch expert.
Seriously, are you buying only because of price bargain. Monitors are an investment value for the future not something which I treat lightly.
Found an Apple Typo
"Dual-Link DVI
The 30-inch Cinema HD Display, with its massive load of pixels, requires a graphics cards with dual-link DVI connectivity. No problem. No matter which graphics card you choose for the new Mac Pro, youll be able to connect two Apple Cinema Displays, including at least one 30-inch model. And with either the ATI Radeon X1900 XT or the workstation-class NVIDIA Quadro FX4500, you can connect one 30-inch display to each of their dual-link DVI ports."
graphics cards
Should be either graphics card
or
a graphics cards
Should be
graphics cards
http://www.apple.com/displays/
http://www.apple.com/displays/gallery/threequarter.html
and the offending link:
http://www.apple.com/displays/digital.html
How dare they have a typo in a multi-gigabyte web page!
Rocketman
"Dual-Link DVI
The 30-inch Cinema HD Display, with its massive load of pixels, requires a graphics cards with dual-link DVI connectivity. No problem. No matter which graphics card you choose for the new Mac Pro, youll be able to connect two Apple Cinema Displays, including at least one 30-inch model. And with either the ATI Radeon X1900 XT or the workstation-class NVIDIA Quadro FX4500, you can connect one 30-inch display to each of their dual-link DVI ports."
graphics cards
Should be either graphics card
or
a graphics cards
Should be
graphics cards
http://www.apple.com/displays/
http://www.apple.com/displays/gallery/threequarter.html
and the offending link:
http://www.apple.com/displays/digital.html
How dare they have a typo in a multi-gigabyte web page!
Rocketman
I agree about new displays. However I think they will release them closer to September. They will sell a ton of these present displays with new systems once Leopard comes out in June. Once the cycle ends they will upgrade to better displays in the later half of the year.
Dell's 20" and 30" are exactly the same LCD panels than the Apple ones, only the casing and the added Dell inputs are diffenrent. The Dell 24" is far superior to the now VERY dated Apple 23" in both performance and specs.
To top it all off, Apple's monitor STILL aren't HDCP compatible which means if you get a blu ray drive and a graphic card that is HDCP complant in a few months, you will need to buy a NEW monitor to view your blu ray disks!
AFTER THIS REBATE, Apple's prices are still outrageously high for what they offer. I don't know what Apple is waiting for, maybe this is just a way of clearing inventory until a real update at WWDC June 11th, but I've lost faith (and I'm pissed at the idea of having an ugly Dell casing on my desk :-( ... )
To top it all off, Apple's monitor STILL aren't HDCP compatible which means if you get a blu ray drive and a graphic card that is HDCP complant in a few months, you will need to buy a NEW monitor to view your blu ray disks!
AFTER THIS REBATE, Apple's prices are still outrageously high for what they offer. I don't know what Apple is waiting for, maybe this is just a way of clearing inventory until a real update at WWDC June 11th, but I've lost faith (and I'm pissed at the idea of having an ugly Dell casing on my desk :-( ... )
better but
I'm still not sold. Make it
20"-->$399
23"-->24" @ $699
30"-->$1599
and I might buy 2. They may be considered pro monitors, but not everyone has the budget of a succesful pro, yet. Maybe between a Canon EOS 30D, a macpro, plenty of other accessories you got to be more frugal on the monitor. I don't know I think they are ceding market share to more budget monitors.
I'm still not sold. Make it
20"-->$399
23"-->24" @ $699
30"-->$1599
and I might buy 2. They may be considered pro monitors, but not everyone has the budget of a succesful pro, yet. Maybe between a Canon EOS 30D, a macpro, plenty of other accessories you got to be more frugal on the monitor. I don't know I think they are ceding market share to more budget monitors.
Amount of inputs and memory card reader. Also the res is much higher. And its not 2 inches of space. Its alot more than that. Considering the higher res and the square inches its pretty significantly bigger.
Personally i don't see difference between the 22 inch and the 20 inch dell monitors. Same resolution for both.
I think i'm gonna buy a pair of dell 24 inches to go with the quad we plan on getting at my office. The apple displays just cost too much. Granted they are beautiful but they don't have all the inputs the dell monitors do.
I find it amusing that Mac users dissing on their own products. WTF?
Seriously, it's important to support more use of these displays not undercut what Apple has generously bequeathed to us.
Yes the panels are the same this is true. However the backlighting system is different. And this is a major difference. I'm not knocking the dell moniotrs but apples backlighting is more even and doesn't blowout the blacks. You have to really calibrate the dell monitors well. Which you can do. I know because i have a 20 inch dell monitor at home (at 10 percent brightness) Cuz it just blew out the blacks any higher than that. Its a great monitor just different backlighting than apples.
So for someone that wants it strictly for use with my Mac Pro....Web Development, Photo, maybe some video editing.....
Should I consider the Apple or go with the Dell?
The inputs don't matter to me. I just want the DVI to hook the Mac up to....no DVD or Xbox.
The other thing I'm debating on is the 20" vs. the 23".
The price cuts are ok....not great.
-Kevin
Should I consider the Apple or go with the Dell?
The inputs don't matter to me. I just want the DVI to hook the Mac up to....no DVD or Xbox.
The other thing I'm debating on is the 20" vs. the 23".
The price cuts are ok....not great.
-Kevin
Does anyone know if the panels in the 20" iMac and the 24" iMac are S-IPS or PVA?
Displays
Great stuff, now all we need for these pricepoints is HD resolution accross the board, and build in iSights. I'm in the market for a 20" to accompany my Mac mini, but am waiting until that model is being updated.
Other than that, no complaints.
Great stuff, now all we need for these pricepoints is HD resolution accross the board, and build in iSights. I'm in the market for a 20" to accompany my Mac mini, but am waiting until that model is being updated.
Other than that, no complaints.
I was so close to buying two 20 inch monitors last night as well as a new MacPro. Good thing I waited, I was going to wait until NAB, hoping prices would come down on the MacPro, and new monitors to arrive.
I think this is a sign not to wait any longer.
I think this is a sign not to wait any longer.
Please no built-in iSights. I want a new separate webcam because I prefer to control the angle.
I must say, when I bought my 20'' Clear Apple Cinema - it was a display that was worth the premium because it was so far ahead of competition in terms of looks and performance, it wasn't even funny.
Fast forward 2007: these aluminum Cinema displays are mostly outdated performance wise, look no better than new Dell monitors and actually luck extra usability of tilt and inputs. I will no be buying them at any price considering what's available out there.
It's a shame really when you consider how far Apple was with their Clear LCD Displays and PowerMac G4 designs (swing down motherboard panel!) Now Apple computers look like generic PC hardware, minus the flexibility and low price. iMac is the only reminiscence of old Apple.
Fast forward 2007: these aluminum Cinema displays are mostly outdated performance wise, look no better than new Dell monitors and actually luck extra usability of tilt and inputs. I will no be buying them at any price considering what's available out there.
It's a shame really when you consider how far Apple was with their Clear LCD Displays and PowerMac G4 designs (swing down motherboard panel!) Now Apple computers look like generic PC hardware, minus the flexibility and low price. iMac is the only reminiscence of old Apple.
I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic. Apple is literally raping it's customers at these price points and it looks like you've just dropped the soap.
Uh... no I wasn't kidding.
Remember these displays for mostly for PROFESSIONAL not consumer use. Dells are mostly geared for office or cheapskate users but not graphic designers or photographers or even musicians (geewhiz).
I would say that these price points are fair considering that there could be worse right? Consider that you could have bought this:
There, feel better eh?
Why do you say they never will. Whats so hard about putting in analog inputs. No other manufacturer seems to have any problems with it. And they are cheaper.
As for saying hes whining for something that fits his needs I think thats absurd. Considering that the huge majority of PC monitors have analog inputs. So clearly it doesn't just fit HIS need.
I too would prefer apple monitors with multiple inputs. Throw in another DVI port or something or component connection.
yep yep. And thus these are meant for applications that require color accuracy. And my moaning for an analog input was to be able to hookup a PC and my Mac to the thing (and I don't want a KVM).
Well, once I upgrade to a MacBook Pro, then my "pc" will have a HDMI connection anyway...