What did you buy it for? Work?
I'm tempted to get the 20" but don't know whether I should spend the extra to get the 23" for the 1920x1200 resolution.
How's the 1680x1050 resolution on the 20"?
-Kevin
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Apple Discounts Cinema Displays
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What did you buy it for? Work?
I'm tempted to get the 20" but don't know whether I should spend the extra to get the 23" for the 1920x1200 resolution.
How's the 1680x1050 resolution on the 20"?
-Kevin
As far as price/performance mix, the BenQ 24" model (FP241WZ) is a much better monitor than both the Dell & Apple, IMO... I love the design of Apple displays, but others are right: if you don't like the price, then quit b!tching, & buy something else; pretty simple huh? Apple is not "obligated" to provide a cheap monitor. In fact, I hope Apple never goes the mass-production cheap route....
Fair comments.
But does Apple need to be selling a budget monitor?
After all the Mini was designed purposely to go with peripherals from other supliers....ones that you had sitting around at the time..was the original concept.
I am curious to hear from people who are buying the Mac Pro series if they want a budget monitor with poor color accuracy?
Even if you are making music I doubt you would penny pinch a few hundred dollars and give up quality.
Once again there is a big portion of the Mac world out there forgetting that we proffessionals have a very different set of values than general users and web surfers.
Just because Apple continues to cater to this huge proffessional market is no reason to bash them. (I can think of a million other reasons to hammer on Apple than this)
This line of thought goes nowhere. Apple cannot and should not spread itself across the computer landscape in an attempt to please everyone.
In fact they do a better job of just that than most other companies out there. For sure there is not a Dell I would ever consider owning but I would not bash them for it.
Sorry I have prayed about this and pondered and researched and studied and the answer was clear:
Go with the A-man. (using faith and intellect)
People that rant on specs alone will never fully enjoy life. Embrace the intangibles. Premium products offer things beyond what's on paper. Apple's products are no different. Beauty is worth something too.
The Dell is cheaper and arguably better on specs, but it looks hideous compared to the ACD. My 30" lives in my home, where I don't want a big honking piece of black plastic. The beautiful aluminum enclosure of the ACD is simply without equal. So, what's beauty worth? To me it was worth $3,000 when I bought my ACD two years ago.
If Apple is screwing us so much, why didn't this thread start until this morning?
The Dell is cheaper and arguably better on specs, but it looks hideous compared to the ACD. My 30" lives in my home, where I don't want a big honking piece of black plastic. The beautiful aluminum enclosure of the ACD is simply without equal. So, what's beauty worth? To me it was worth $3,000 when I bought my ACD two years ago.
If Apple is screwing us so much, why didn't this thread start until this morning?
Uh... well, sorry my PowerMac G3 isn't the only Apple I own. I have like 7 other Apple computers including a MacBook in black finish!
Man, the only reason why I put up my PowerMac G3 is because it has the biggest storage space (once I get my 3 drives total) and that will be cool because it proves that Apple is timeless.
An Apple from 1999 is way more usable than any PC from that era.
Same with monitors. Who's gonna use a Dell monitor in like 4-5 years? Duh. Not many.
But on ebay, the clear crystal Apple Studio Displays are still going for a pretty penny.
Only goes to show that Apple retain their value across the year just like a good marriage.
For me, purchasing something is like finding a girl. You can choose the cheap one who commits adultery in 1-2 years or choose a more faithful (expensive) one who will be devoted to you for more than a decade
Maybe the price is high because apple makes computers with proprietary display connections so that you have to buy an ASD? On ebay, original 802.11b airport cards go for nearly $100 and isights go for about that much as well. Is the reason because those items "retain their value" better than competing products or because of simple supply and demand constraints created by apple's continual use of non-standard parts? Just because something is more expensive, that doesn't mean that it is "better" or a "better value".
Ya I'll second that. If they do have isights built in then at least release a seperate standalone isight. Being built into monitors is great for video conferencing, but that's about it. Even then when I had a 15" MBP the angle of isight was too high so my head was cut off.
Apple monitors haven't had a proprietary display connector in almost three years. Get a new argument, please.
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For me, purchasing something is like finding a girl. You can choose the cheap one who commits adultery in 1-2 years or choose a more faithful (expensive) one who will be devoted to you for more than a decade
Haha.... not life then
Um what? Please tell me what constitutes 'non-standard'. Is a firewire webcam non-standard?
This has been going on for ages. It's just that the price cut isn't helpful even if you're in the US (compared to dell).
Agreed with you on the utility <> expensiveness.
However, Apple is a different animal. I have to argue that their use of non-standard parts have revolutionized the PC market.
FW
DVI output
PCI Express
Bluetooth devices
etc. etc.
The point is: Apple led and some followed. It's kinda like
Apple = 300 Spartans versus PC = opposition of Xerxes' armies in some way.
Also original Airport cards are still very good. I have one in my Pismo and it still works unlike the PC cards which are dog slow or nonfunctional. It's just a matter of priorization here.
This is the closest you're going to come to that may be the Samsung 244t:
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor/LCD_Multi_Function/LS24BRBASXAA.asp
Is less expensive than the Apple 23", but still looks very nice... certainly better than the Dell 24". It also has a ton of inputs like s-video, component, analog, etc.
But again, it's a PVA panel... not S-IPS, so you're compromising a bit on color accuracy and viewable angle. (although, from what I've read, once you calibrate the 244t, it's pretty good)
Haha.... not life then
Yes, Apple = a fabulous woman in many cases. Being an amateur matchmaker it's hard not to understand that using a ACD inspires the look of love from many ladies in fact.
I consider the ACD as a sine que non device for courting young women in today's world. They consider guys who use it to be exemplary gentlemen who believe in the cause of color fidelity and faithfulness (high correlation r-squared = 0.982).
Indeed but why choose the compromised solution when you don't need to go that route for photographic/graphical use?
The problem for me isn't the price. The deal breaker for me is the lack of input options. How can you charge that much for a display which simply lacks the option to connect more than one component?
Because the cost associated with using a higher-quality S-IPS panel (and all the color certifications) for color work raises the cost. It's not intended to do what you want, which means you should look elsewhere.
I don't see what's so confusing about this.
what are you babbling about? how is FW800, FW400, USB2 and DVI "continual use of non standard parts"?
Exactly right.
My 2 crystal displays still look amazing....4 years down the road.
Obviously there a many people on this forum who see only money(cheap) as the motivator.
What amazes me is that Apple have always been about quality and longevity.....well at least tried to be
Why do these people now want cheap
To all of you budget boys.....go buy yer Dell and stop bitching about those of us who are more than happy to pay a bit more for much more.
I for one have no wish to see Apple produce run of the mill budget priced consumer orientated products.
What they do is produce top quality pro and consumer gear that is way ahead of the other companies out there in terms of design, quality and value for money.
These monitors, especially at the new prices, are no different.
