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Apple Donating to Notre Dame Rebuilding Efforts in Paris After Historic Cathedral Damaged in Fire

H3LL5P4WN said:
Fortunately, it seems that the only artistic thing damaged was one of the windows. The roof was mostly 19th century, all of the statues in the spire were removed prior to the fire, and all of the stonework is intact.

They just don't make 'em like they used to.

Edit: I stand corrected. The wooden inner structure was from the 12th century and it's all gone. How the hell wasn't there fire suppression built for this kindling? And good god, the roof was made of LEAD.
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The roof makes sense. When doing the renovations. Lead would have been cheap and looks quite nice on the building. It protects the wood underneath from the elements. As there was no knowledge of the environmental impact of lead. That wasn't a factor. There is also weight and durability to consider. Lead is dense but only requires thin sheets. While ceramic would be quite thick. Tiles can also break and fall off. Lead roofs have been known to last over 200 years.

MacLawyer said:
The stone walls still stand, but I wonder how much the heat has weakened them. I fear the restoration will take decades at the very least. Vive la France! Vive Paris!
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Time would also depend a lot on the process they use. The 19th century renovation took 25 years. It would be interesting if they used traditional techniques. I'd imagine a lot of tourists would be interested in seeing a 12th century style reconstruction with traditional tools and human powered cranes. This would obviously take a long time. Plus the old growth they had back then doesn't exist in significant quantities. So, wood quality will suffer. There also aren't many craftsmen with the necessary skills.

I figure they'll try to recreate it as closely as possible. I certainly hope they don't modernize it. Say with a steel frame and glass roof.
 
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Zxxv said:
Why is apple donating? The church has more money than most governments.
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It is a supreme historical site of the world. At least Google it. It was built in 1163. No building has lasted that long besides the pyramids and who knows which other. Is from the medieval times and

When the Challenger and Columbia exploded the world was shocked and sad, this building burning... everybody in the world loses something forever.

Just do a research on the organ inside.... your jaw will fall off. Then you have the Crown of Thorns of Jesus.

You should really spend some time realizing what are the actual important things in the world... any is related to social media btw.
 
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The roof makes sense. When doing the renovations. Lead would have been cheap and looks quite nice on the building. It protects the wood underneath from the elements. As there was no knowledge of the environmental impact of lead. That wasn't a factor. There is also weight and durability to consider. Lead is dense but only requires thin sheets. While ceramic would be quite thick. Tiles can also break and fall off. Lead roofs have been known to last over 200 years.



Time would also depend a lot on the process they use. The 19th century renovation took 25 years. It would be interesting if they used traditional techniques. I'd imagine a lot of tourists would be interested in seeing a 12th century style reconstruction with traditional tools and human powered cranes. This would obviously take a long time. Plus the old growth they had back then doesn't exist in significant quantities. So, wood quality will suffer. There also aren't many craftsmen with the necessary skills.

I figure they'll try to recreate it as closely as possible. I certainly hope they don't modernize it. Say with a steel frame and glass roof.
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Right, at the time they also thought they could turn lead into gold.

This is a prime opportunity to use something that isn't poison as well as build with a fire suppression system designed in from the get-go.
 
"We are heartbroken for the French people and those around the world for whom Notre Dame is a symbol of hope"

Good on Tim for vouching to donate, but I think he's miscategorized what Notre Dame is a symbol of. Grossly.

Those around the world "for whom" cling to words and tweets, this seems intentionally vague on his behalf and I think he could have done much better for such a noble cause of contributing.
 
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Okay, I’m not usually cynical but this one’s got me.

I’ve visited Notre Dame. It’s incredible. Beautiful, historic and all of those other things which are being banded about.

Clearly some restoration work will need to be done but here’s where I have a problem... £500m has been raised in less than a day to fund its restoration. £500m. Regardless of the building’s beauty and importance, it’s still just a building. What could £500m do for healthcare research, or homelessness or any other worthy cause? But instead these huge companies manage to raise it to spend on something made of stone and wood - and somehow I find that quite distasteful.
 
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So wait, there aren't enough domestic causes that could be donated to? When is the pope going to help with Flint's water system?
 
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I will also donate.

Not because of Apple, but because Notre Dame is incredibly beautiful and inspiring. It is a testament to the beauty mankind can accomplish and I want my children to see those rose windows and know that their great grandparents stood in the same spot and marveled at the same beauty that ties generations.
 
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Clearly some restoration work will need to be done but here’s where I have a problem... £500m has been raised in less than a day to fund its restoration. £500m. Regardless of the building’s beauty and importance, it’s still just a building. What could £500m do for healthcare research, or homelessness or any other worthy cause? But instead these huge companies manage to raise it to spend on something made of stone and wood - and somehow I find that quite distasteful.
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The problem with healthcare, medical experimentation, social projects, all that stuff, is that it's a bottomless pit. You could throw £500m in and it would still be empty. At least with this, a symbolic building gets rebuilt and there's something to see for the money. I don't disagree with you, but the truth is, for mankind's manifold problems there isn't enough money, and there never will be. Personally I'm happy that this amazing old building will be reconstructed, hopefully better than before, and glad that Apple is putting some cash towards it.
 
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Well Cook has smarten up a little bit of not disclosing an amount just like he did the last time which is sound like a regular person donating a penny to a calamity and bragging it.
 
thadoggfather said:
"We are heartbroken for the French people and those around the world for whom Notre Dame is a symbol of hope"

Good on Tim for vouching to donate, but I think he's miscategorized what Notre Dame is a symbol of. Grossly.

Those around the world "for whom" cling to words and tweets, this seems intentionally vague on his behalf and I think he could have done much better.
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You mean that he should’ve stuck Roman Catholic in there somewhere? I’d venture to say Norte Dame has stood for much, much more than the Catholic/Jesuit faith over its hundreds of years.

I don’t know what you’d call it, but I can’t top “hope,” unless, “Trip Advisor’s #1 best place to visit while in Paris” taps into the universal collective emotion felt right now by the world than “Hope.”
 
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You mean that he should’ve stuck Roman Catholic in there somewhere? I’d venture to say Norte Dame has stood for much, much more than the Catholic/Jesuit faith over its hundreds of years.

I don’t know what you’d call it, but I can’t top “hope,” unless, “Trip Advisor’s #1 best place to visit while in Paris” taps into the universal collective emotion felt right now by the world than “Hope.”
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I'm not saying that at all. I agree it transcends any individual group, but "hope" simply aint the word I would use. Genuinely too afraid to use a three letter word in this thread... and it isnt art.

In my view- a House of Art and a House of Hope just doesnt have the same ring or significance to it.
 
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