Apple Drops Prices on 512GB and 1TB SSD Upgrades for Older Mac Lineup

Zenithal said:
All this talk of warranties is strange.

My 64 GB of RAM = Lifetime Warranty
My video cards in SLI = Limited Lifetime Warranty - Unless I mess with them via overlocking or modification, they're covered
My Motherboard = 5 Year Warranty - If it dies, it dies. It's a popular socket and it's very easy to find parts.
Monitors = 3 Year Warranty (But with Dell, it's pretty much lifetime) + 3 Year Exchange Program
PSU = 10 Year Warranty
SSDs = 2x 10 Year Warranties + 1x 5 Year Warranty

If something goes bad in my PC, I know what went bad and I can get a temporary product while my exchanged product comes in a few days to a week. With an Apple, you get 1 year of warranty, plus the option to buy Apple Care for an additional 3 years. Now, granted people keep their Macs for longer, but if something breaks, it's going to cost a lot of money.

I've stuck with the same brands since the late 90s. I've had parts die on me and they've always honored their warranty. Hell, I've got a 64 TB home NAS with WD Red Pros and those have 5 year warranties to boot. 99.9% of Windows problems are user-end caused.
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In September 2014 my mid-2011 iMac 21.5" developed a fault with the LCD panel just a week shy of owning it three years.

Took it to an Authorised Apple Premium Reseller here in the U.K.

Paid a £29 fee for an engineer's report. Was quoted £480 to get it replaced by Apple.

Exercised consumer rights as I argued it should last much longer than three years when I'd taken care of it and the fact it'd cost me £999 at the time.

Worked a treat-Apple replaced it free of charge.

But I see where you are coming from... could have cost a pretty penny had I been unlucky and they'd said no.
 
iGeek2014 said:
In September 2014 my mid-2011 iMac 21.5" developed a fault with the LCD panel just a week shy of owning it three years.

Took it to an Authorised Apple Premium Reseller here in the U.K.

Paid a £29 fee for an engineer's report. Was quoted £480 to get it replaced by Apple.

Exercised consumer rights as I argued it should last much longer than three years when I'd taken care of it and the fact it'd cost me £999 at the time.

Worked a treat-Apple replaced it free of charge.

But I see where you are coming from... could have cost a pretty penny had I been unlucky and they'd said no.
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Your story, while quite nice, doesn't apply. The EU has had a long history of pro-consumer rights. Something to think about when Brexit is formalized unless the MPs deny the voice and will of the people, even if they are fools.

US, Canada, et al aren't so lucky. I believe the Australians have wonderful consumer rights protection, too. 480 quid is still a slap in the face for something three years old. Then again, I'm the one who spent over a thousand pounds per IPS monitor at the time.

The Apple method is sound provided you've got Apple Care (unless you're West European and are lucky or Australian) or you're buggered.

With the PC method, you're able to fix it fast by getting the same product. Or in the interim, getting a temporary product at the store. Many component manufacturers now do cross-shipping. Which might be an American term, but once I provide proof I've sent my defected product, they overnight the new product.

The point of my post was the clear up misleading comments hardcore Apple converts had. Things that may have been true more than a decade, close to two decades ago. Although, there is always that one person who will behave as if they are a child screaming their bloody lungs out while sticking their forefingers firmly into their ears canals.
 
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I wish they would just hurry up and kill the mac off as the dearly want to, given it makes up a small slice of the pie yet requires alot of resources to maintain. They clearly just want to concentrate on iPhone and other "post-pc" devices. Just integrate Vulcan and release OSX as a standalone OS to compete with windows, and let us choose our own hardware.
 
aajeevlin said:
Personally, this is how I look at it. I like the Mac Pro, but I know unless I start to make a ton of money I probably will never buy one, so I'm not going to say anything about that. As for my favor Mac Mini, and MacBook Pro Retain, I'm not going to say that I won't buy them anytime soon, or that I'm going to go back to Windows and such because I don't like windows. But what I will say is that the decision Apple had made will cause me to have less desire to have impulse buy because I don't feel like it's worth it, or the novelty is not there. And it will make me only want to buy a new computer when and if I NEED one (i.e., current MacBook stopped working and such), not when I simply want one because it's cool and has new tech on it.

Really I thought it was Apple's job to attract me to want to buy their machine and not to put a damper on that. Maybe if eventually enough people think like me Apple will start to feel something...or maybe not.
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I don't think Apple signed up for match making services to attract anyone. This is one of those Stories of Oliver Twist being snatched and beaten to death and feed him cookie crumbs.
 
Bubba Satori said:
Jony Ive magical Christmas trees.

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Who's house is that? Looks nothing like his. Certainly not that wide at least.
 
pat500000 said:
I don't think Apple signed up for match making services to attract anyone. This is one of those Stories of Oliver Twist being snatched and beaten to death and feed him cookie crumbs.
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Was there a BDSM variety of Oliver Twist I wasn't aware of as a child? That sounds a bit like that novel with the boys on the island and the flies. Or rather Tom Brown School Days.
 
Analog Kid said:
Interesting anecdotes. I don't think I've had an Apple product fail in less than 4 years, but my anecdotes don't mean anything in this context either-- and nothing I'm saying has anything to do with Apple.

If you are a true pro, then anything you spend on expenses or capital equipment such as a computer is tax deductible-- so everything is essentially half price (depending on your profitability and jurisdiction). If you can bill $100 an hour for your services then it better take less than half an hour to research, select, order, unpack, assemble, install and maintain a DIY computer for every $100 you save.
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I never said Apple made bad quality machines either. It applies to any company that makes computers. I do freelance editing and occasionally design work, so for me personally, build my own computer is far more cost effective than purchasing a prefab machine. I imagine the cost effectiveness changes dramatically based on the size of the company that needs it. If I were running a small studio of a few people, it would still be cost effective for me to spend a day assembling a couple machines. But I imagine larger industries benefit from bulk pricing and simply having a prefab machine arrive ready to go.

Analog Kid said:
Warranty and support also allow you to smooth your cash flow and make more predictable investment decisions in your enterprise. Think of it as insurance or having a throat to choke-- either way it takes some of the risk and pressure off of your business.
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All the parts I buy have very good warranties. At least 3 years coverage, and they usually overnight me a replacement part while I send them back the defective component. (I had a hard disk fail once, thankfully it was empty and didn't affect my system)



Analog Kid said:
People here use "pro" like it means "fast". Pros need performance, for sure, but that's only part of the formula. In the end what they need is productivity and predictability.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Fast computers are nice, but its no use if its unreliable. And you can build a custom PC with very, very reliable workstation grade parts and have a reliable custom built machine. I personally opted to use regular consumer grade hardware, and my computer has been running reliably for 3 years. Personally, I think consumer hardware is more than reliable enough for most applications, and that the industry just likes to hype up the more expensive stuff. Or I could just be lucky.
 
Analog Kid said:
nothing I'm saying has anything to do with Apple.
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bladerunner2000 said:
That's insulting and also suggests Macs aren't prone to failure which is a lie.
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What's insulting is calling me a liar for saying something that I have explicitly said I am not saying.

I'm sorry if the reality of the world conflicts with your agenda, but attacking me for things I'm not saying doesn't help your cause, it just undermines your credibility.
 
Zenithal said:
Was there a BDSM variety of Oliver Twist I wasn't aware of as a child? That sounds a bit like that novel with the boys on the island and the flies. Or rather Tom Brown School Days.
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Yeah..but those boys from the island ended up being the next top models for Victoria's Secret. Unfortunately they couldn't keep secret so they ended up in a same fate as Oliver.
 
BlargKing said:
I never said Apple made bad quality machines either. It applies to any company that makes computers. I do freelance editing and occasionally design work, so for me personally, build my own computer is far more cost effective than purchasing a prefab machine. I imagine the cost effectiveness changes dramatically based on the size of the company that needs it. If I were running a small studio of a few people, it would still be cost effective for me to spend a day assembling a couple machines. But I imagine larger industries benefit from bulk pricing and simply having a prefab machine arrive ready to go.



All the parts I buy have very good warranties. At least 3 years coverage, and they usually overnight me a replacement part while I send them back the defective component. (I had a hard disk fail once, thankfully it was empty and didn't affect my system)





I agree wholeheartedly. Fast computers are nice, but its no use if its unreliable. And you can build a custom PC with very, very reliable workstation grade parts and have a reliable custom built machine. I personally opted to use regular consumer grade hardware, and my computer has been running reliably for 3 years. Personally, I think consumer hardware is more than reliable enough for most applications, and that the industry just likes to hype up the more expensive stuff. Or I could just be lucky.
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Curious, what kind of build have you got?
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pat500000 said:
Yeah..but those boys from the island ended up being the next top models for Victoria's Secret. Unfortunately they couldn't keep secret so they ended up in a same fate as Oliver.
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You could say future customers of non-phone or non-iPad customers of Apple will go the way of the choir boy.
 
joeypore said:
The fact that a 3 year old computer still starts at $2999 and only comes with 256gb of flash storage, that's now slower than the MacBook Pro storage... is absurd. I'm calling it: they're going to "quietly" upgrade the Mac Pro within a few months and barely make a big deal of it.
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I'll take you up on that bet. I think if they were to do that in a few months, they wouldn't make any change (after all, it's been this long -- what's another year?).
 
Zenithal said:
Curious, what kind of build have you got?
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You could say future customers of non-phone or non-iPad customers of Apple will go the way of the choir boy.
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Sadly....with no Mac desktop being updated....things could get lot worst for those choir boys.
 
Zenithal said:
Curious, what kind of build have you got?
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Currently running a Core i7 5960X Octa-core, got it overclocked to 4Ghz. 16GB of DDR4-2133, a GeForce 780 TI, a 1TB SSD, and 4 1TB WD black HDD in RAID 0.

Shes a pretty fast rig, especially with CPU dependent tasks, even more so if the software can utilize all 8 cores. Really the only thing I would change is the 780 TI. It handles games well still, but I want to try out developing games for VR, and its a bit under powered for that kind of stuff. I'll probably upgrade it to a pair of 1080's soon.
 
Checking the Dutch store.. has it really dropped? 512 is still 240 euro, en still 480 for the 1tb.

[edit] just checked screenshot from june last year

Actually, the 512 was in june 240, and the 1tb was 840
and nows its 512 for nov at 240 and the 1tb is now 720

So for the iMac high end model, only the 1tb one.

The proper config is still 4000 with 8 gb of ram and no apple care.
that last 100 really doesn't matter, its' just more apple tax. That's euro btw, in hillary dollars that's about 4500.
 
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