"Campus Culture" at work was never a good idea, and it's good to see most people think it's well past being killed off. Work is work--not an extension of college.
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Apple Employees Continue to Fight Return to Campuses and Push for Better Remote Working Options
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So because some jobs can’t be done from a home office, then no one in any job can possibly work from home or a coffee shop? That doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Note Santa Clara county while like many other California counties is suggesting to people to wear masks inside stores to decrease the chance of Delta variant cases, but this county has yet to see a spike on that. There is no mandate yet.
Comparisons to Google and Facebook letting their employees work remotely is not the same, as Facebook is essentially server based multi-language software environments, and to a great degree so is Google. Apple does everything, hardware and software. So dependent on what employees positions are about some of it is not doable by remote comparably.
There are companies big and small, in all industries, service sectors etc. One size does not fit all. Just because one thinks they can do their job at home 100% of the time, doesn't mean it's the right work environment for every other company under the sun. Some employees have taken WFH as an employee right...nothing can be further from the truth.
These employees should focus their energies at the real problem .... high housing prices. It's ridiculous how much homes cost these days. I've seen first-hand how realtors pad up "suggested selling prices" just to increase their own take. It's gross.
You get what you pay for? Americans are uniformly superior to foreigners?
I used an overseas company for new branding and saved tens of thousands of dollars compared to the quotes I received from U.S. companies.
The options are not full time WFH or full time in the office. A hybrid can work, assuming the leadership has the skills. Workers do have the right to request salary increases, schedule adjustments, etc. as they are trying to maximize their salary and combined benefits, just like a company has the right to try to minimize their labor costs.
The options are not full time WFH or full time in the office. A hybrid can work, assuming the leadership has the skills. Workers do have the right to request salary increases, schedule adjustments, etc. as they are trying to maximize their salary and combined benefits, just like a company has the right to try to minimize their labor costs.
Yeah, but those 10 people comprise the entire executive committee! They really are doomed!
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Still as long as the demand exists you can't change what housing goes for. Also you just can't have infinite housing with power and water limitations of this state.
Apple employees need to get over it...I've been in my office since June 2020.
You already know what it is. A system exists with some power structure that some people benefit from. Changes to that system threaten the existing power structure. People don't want to give up their power so they resist changes to the existing system. Tale as old as time.
Alternatively people think others should go through the same buy-in process they had to go through to get to where they are in life. Reminds me of "we shouldn't forgive student debt because I had to pay it."
The company I work for is doing a crap job at the hybrid work model in most ways, but it has identified an entire department that will be remote forever and allowed them to stop leasing a building in SF that was $46k per month.
Sure a hybrid approach.
I'm going to assume Tim Cook is not masquerading as a MR poster. It's irrelevant what one thinks of management or their skills, they are free to leave if the job at hand is not a "dream job". Nobody is forcing anybody to work for any company and conversely companies are under no obligation to keep employees that don't perform to their satisfaction.
Yes they do. 100%. A company also has a right to turn them down. One would hope that companies in 2021 are a little more flexible, but that flexibility needs to extend to employees also.
Those highly skilled engineers unhappy with Apple's working requirements should seek other employment.
A win for them and a win for Apple.
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Relative to the size of the company, Apple already had a fairly low number of employees. IBM for example has 3x as many employees but does much less business. Maybe these employees have some leverage as who knows how many they can afford to lose who could probably easily transfer to Facebook, Google, etc.
In a perfect world. But when the decision for remote work is many levels about your manager and HR rep, you end up with situations like this...
So...you couldn't have it, so others shouldn't either?
Employer-employee relations are a two way street now. "My way or the highway" is a long outdated concept. It's the employees who go a long way towards making a company great.
The cynic in me who did not have the option to work from home (because my job simply CAN'T be done at home) and instead did 55+ hours a week with a severe lack of PPE...says get over it.
The other side of me says did Apple not see this coming?
The other side of me says did Apple not see this coming?
I feel like half the replies are that sort of response.
Their approach to this is all wrong. They should sell this as "we are committed to improving and helping the globe" /s but also serious about the commenting. However, I am not taking a side on what they are discussing. All I can say is I've done long commutes before and it was for a long time. I knew what I was signing myself up for....
We also used to have 14 hour workdays and no workplace safety. When you find a better way of doing something, you change.
Apple has been around for 40+ years. With respect to employee dynamics I suspect they've seen a lot over that time period.
Those people that need to work at home should seek employment with companies that offer that option. If they're as highly qualified as some here suggest, it should be easy.
Those that are threatening to quit should be allowed to leave with Apple's thanks and best wishes.
A win for those employees and a win for Apple!
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