Apple Employees Increasingly Content to Criticize the Company Amid Switch Remote Working and Use of Slack

Maconplasma said:
Perhaps that’s due to lack engineers working in the office building instead of being home in their slippers watching ESPN while checking into Apple every now and then. If they were at work they would be more productive working amongst a team getting the software right instead of sitting on their lazy butts at home.
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AGREED (amazingly)
 
gagarin04 said:
No one is forced to work at Apple. Don't like it, leave. All these complaints are just so stupid. Thousands of people would like to work at Apple almost for free. Throw them in jail for breaking their NDAs.

What happened to good old fashioned company loyalty? Especially for something as great as Apple.
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I especially love this bit if this is what employees are complaining about too... "When work was conducted in person before last year's changes, the interaction between different parts of the company was heavily limited, with physical access to other departments being restricted to those authorized to be there."

I work at a film studio, secrecy is the name of the game for massive companies who protect their IP. Security at the studio lot to get on the property, my office a badge to get in with access for authorized people only, has cameras on the ceiling, and our work machines are USB, bluetooth and internet disabled.
 
As much as I don't like the whining about coming back to an office that you were hired to be at-employers asking for your medical information insane. I would never give this information to them.
 
Derekuda said:
You do realize pretty much all Apple products are built in China...by Foxconn...from mostly Samsung parts
Apple just designs the stuff and orders the parts.
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Cool. How does that design process work? Virtual prototypes? How about testing? Manufacturability? I agree that A LOT can be done WFH. Let's not minimize in-person collaboration and physical equipment, space, etc. as "just designs the stuff".
 
matthewadams said:
LOL @ people here defending the cooperation cashing in on their products vs. standing by the people that are actually building them...
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LMAO! So people here are supposed to side with employees we don’t even know personally? This isn’t the world against Apple. And frankly Apple has done more for me as a customer creating products that I need vs. some faceless self-entitled engineers. Don’t forget Apple is paying money to those engineers that I gave them from buying Apple products, so my money is paying those Engineer’s salaries so I damn well expect those engineers to respect their employer and not act like they are doing Apple a favor by working for them.
 
I support the option for remote working, every business where it’s feasible should have that option imo.

Aside from that, this makes me wonder how Apple will have to evolve its culture, most things I’ve read have stated that Apple is set up to encourage collaboration. Which is harder to do with remote work.
 
Fire them.

They think they are independent contractors now? Treat them as such…

Edit: I am not talking about firing people for complaining about illegal workplace practices. But just PUBLICLY moaning and griping? That is punishable by your employer.
 
Maconplasma said:
Perhaps that’s due to lack engineers working in the office building instead of being home in their slippers watching ESPN while checking into Apple every now and then. If they were at work they would be more productive working amongst a team getting the software right instead of sitting on their lazy butts at home.
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Hard disagree, many companies report increased output with remote work, showing that many employees don’t need constant oversight to do their job. Likewise many employees have reported better satisfaction with their job because they’re not commuting and saving money. Happy employees do better work.

No doubt there are many who slack when they’re not in the office, but I’d wager they’re the same who slack when the manager isn’t looking (like in Office Space).

I myself find it difficult to focus at home so I go into work to get tasks done, but I think it’s beneficial to at least have the option for remote work.
 
Good, I hope they get to work from home as much as they want. Apple just wants to justify its stupid overpriced campus, that’s the only reason they’re pushing back because loss of productivity ain’t it.

everyone in here being like “poor babies” and making fun of the people who wrote the software you’re using right now… I hope you never become team leaders because everyone will quit with that garbage attitude
 
4jasontv said:
It‘s hanging out with pensions, profit sharing, rising from the mailroom, job security, and holiday bonuses.
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Soon to be joined by bathroom breaks and union membership.


yaxomoxay said:
I must push back on this. There is absolutely no indication that wfh is intrinsically healthier, especially on the mental health side. The lack of full human interaction is actually correlated to depression, anxiety and more.
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As someone who has great difficulty with full human interaction and suffers from depression and anxiety, I have to question whether this is correlation or causation. I know that when you feel your lowest you don’t really want to interact with anyone (though it would help I agree).

We’re also going through a global pandemic and social change. That would cause anxiety anxiety in anybody. Many of my friends who up till now haven’t described being anxious have freaked out more than once because of the current cluster****. (To which I thought “been there done that)
 
slack—like agile—is one of the worst inventions ever. Especially slack—promising ”more information and communication,” but only delivering constant interruptions and less thoughtful productivity. I encourage anyone who uses it to only look at it twice a day—12 hours apart. Constant response isn’t creativity—it’s cowardice.
Thankfully, most are wising up to this, and it will mostly be in the dustbin with the abject failure of agile.
 
The more the years pass the more I feel that working at Apple is bureaucratic and boring. Their low glassdoor ratings compared to other big tech companies says that. Gone away are the feelings of a cool company. It seems they are freaks about controlling what their employee is doing and very strict about that.People don't seem to have any work freedom.
 
Why would you want to have people fired if they want to work from home?

I believe that employees should have the option to work remotely, in-office, or hybrid. We are 2021, not 1996, the landscape has drastically changed for employment. Personally, I work from home for few reasons:

• More productive
• Less distraction
• No commute
• More time & money in my pocket
 
giggles said:
Blizzard got to the point of being sued by the state of California instead of dealing with some internal culture problems and showing the door to some misbehaving managers.
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Blizzard’s issue was that some people in leadership treated other how they wanted to be treated. They needed to treat employees how the employee wanted to be treated. Given the ambiguity of the golden rule I’m surprised we don’t see more of this.
 
SnaggleB88 said:
slack—like agile—is one of the worst inventions ever. Especially slack—promising ”more information and communication,” but only delivering constant interruptions and less thoughtful productivity. I encourage anyone who uses it to only look at it twice a day—12 hours apart. Constant response isn’t creativity—it’s cowardice.
Thankfully, most are wising up to this, and it will mostly be in the dustbin with the abject failure of agile.
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This just in - efficient communication between employees is “cowardice” - more at 6 🙄
 
tyranne201 said:
The more the years pass the more I feel that working at Apple is bureaucratic and boring. Their low glassdoor ratings compared to other big tech companies says that. Gone away are the feelings of a cool company. It seems they are freaks about controlling what their employee is doing and very strict about that.People don't seem to have any work freedom.
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Of course they are. I am not sure why it would surprise anyone. Apple is now a huge company in a huge industry that affects literally everybody on the planet. They can't act and work as a "garage-like" company anymore. It's the same thing that happened to the aerospace industry. The Skunk Works days in which you build an F117 or something just by assembling a few pieces and jumping to test flight are gone.
 
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