omg...I see that no matter what I say, you're going to try to find a problem with it, so let's drop it, ok? Go find someone else to nitpick. I'm done replying to you.
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omg...I see that no matter what I say, you're going to try to find a problem with it, so let's drop it, ok? Go find someone else to nitpick. I'm done replying to you.
Lots of people are very emotionally invested in being bootlicking toadies who beg corporations to exploit them harder.
Rumor is iPhone 13 prices are gonna be up from iPhone 12, because of 'her derr chip related stuff.'
Instead of 'that sucks' reaction,
the typical response is 'they were left with no choice' and 'makes sense to me' and 'well thats their prerogative, the value is still tremendous'
I like Apple products, but I am under no illusion the place would be a utopia, nor would I work almost for free there. If you don't have advocacy in a company then sooner or later the narcissists take over. Its all down hill from there. So if you like Apple, you should want a company that listens to its employees.
You either don't have the appropriate tools or you must be in a small company. Try staying efficient and productive in a physical meeting with 20-40 people in one office. Lots of side discussions that distract the person sitting next to you, half the meeting is discussing football. Things are FAR FAR FAR MORE efficient working from home. When we were in the office, 30 minutes of our meetings were just discussing non work related things. 30 MINUTES!!! Now we can get the entire meeting done under 30 minutes in some cases. As someone in charge of a backlog of 5,000 bugs, I would rather have meetings be efficient and quick. We need to get these bugs worked on, not discussing football.
Fully agree. Which is why I am boycotting Blizzard and Activision now. I don't want my money to help that company remain as ridiculous as they are with how bad they treat their female employees. It just doesn't feel right playing Blizzard games now knowing I payed and am playing a game where harm was done to a set of their employees.
They weren't technically hired to work in the office either. They were hired to develop software. Whether that is in silicon valley, or in Florida of from India, you can fulfill your job's responsibilities.
Perhaps people should. I do not want to hear more and more companies end up being like Activision Blizzard. I would rather prefer people stand up and just fight a company instead of "quit and work somewhere else". Because they will keep treating employees poorly.
How do you know they are not working? How do you know they did not just spend their 15 minute break discussing this? Legally you should get two 15 minute breaks and a lunch break. That is 1.5 hours you can freely have to do whatever you like that is not work related.
My impression is the platform they are using for complaining is supposed to be used for work collaboration/communication, not griping amongst themselves, but maybe I'm misunderstanding.
First of all, I bet most of their complaints are misguided. But even if not, good luck in fighting that uphill battle. Maybe it would be effective in a small company, but not with enormous ones.
Perhaps you’re forgetting these companies who are “treating employees poorly” are also paying these employees rent or mortgage. They are also paying for their kids college education, food on the table, clothing, gas & electric bills, credit card bills, car notes, car insurance, vacations and healthcare.
I don’t see Apple demanding that employees come back to work in the office like they were doing in the first place as treating them badly. But before people get down and dirty and want to fight a company they better remember two things. (1) They have bills to pay and all the above mentioned. (2) They are not irreplaceable because Apple most certainly can replace them.
I’m all for fair treatment in the workplace but people HAVE to respect their employer or simply move on.
This thread is quite unusual... I am unable to discern between comments that express a sincere belief from those who are just trying to provoke a reaction. Many of them can be interpreted both ways.
Every company that has been around for a few decades ends up being a mixed bag. During my 30 years with IBM, it was a special place to work... for me. The company demanded a lot of its employees but it also expressed their appreciation as well.
"Respect for the individual" was their motto, and it was true for over 75 years... (until Lou Gerstner became the CEO). but there was no coddling.
It sounds like Apple is going through some growing pains as it transitions from young innovative "start up" to a stodgy old dinosaur putting the squeeze to protect profits. That's going to result in some turnover... as it should. And it's not a bad thing.
Every company that has been around for a few decades ends up being a mixed bag. During my 30 years with IBM, it was a special place to work... for me. The company demanded a lot of its employees but it also expressed their appreciation as well.
"Respect for the individual" was their motto, and it was true for over 75 years... (until Lou Gerstner became the CEO). but there was no coddling.
It sounds like Apple is going through some growing pains as it transitions from young innovative "start up" to a stodgy old dinosaur putting the squeeze to protect profits. That's going to result in some turnover... as it should. And it's not a bad thing.
And I go to work to actually work, not discuss football or get distracted by the next door cubicle discussing football. I WANT TO WORK....not be distracted. Working at home solves these issues.
Companies do not pay you to go to work and spend a lot of your time at the water cooler and discussing football, politics or whatever. They pay you to get a job done.
So because I get a paycheck that is an excuse to be treated horribly? That give Activision Blizzard the excuse to do what they did?
Apple is not treating anyone horribly. Stop exaggerating. They are only demanding that people come back to work in the workplace since they weren't working from home in the first place before COVID. Is that now something horrible? But I'll say this I've never stayed at a job where I felt I was being treated "horribly". Says a lot about the employees tolerating it by not quitting than the company's demands.
Also this article isn't about Activision Blizzard. Keep on topic.
Water cooler conversations result in communication that doesn’t happen in zoom. For example, bumping into the CFO and asking some questions and getting responses and candor that may not happen in a meeting. It’s happened to me frequently.
Sure there’s a also a lot of b/s. Many Companies want their employees communicating face to face, not through zoom.
Everybody else is doing it wrong except for you, your department and your company? I don’t think so.
Standing by? You have the same warped sense of entitlement the complainers do.
You do realize how many large companies get developers and resources from India? They are ALL doing it wrong?
In a company with thousands and thousands of employees, it is nearly impossible to find the CFO in the breakroom, let alone be ALONE. Let alone have the breakroom in a quiet enough atmosphere to even DISCUSS work topics. People on this site REALLY REALLY overstate the whole watercooler talk that its the ONLY WAY to talk to the CEO/CTO/CFO... My CTO is too busy to where even if I camped out of his office for 5 hours I would NOT be able to catch him, yet he can easily be approached on Teams for a quick question.