Haters are always gonna hate. Even if Apple hadn’t missed AirPower, the critics will still have found some other issue (be it real or imaginary) to bash Apple over.
Such is the way it has always been, such is the way it will always be.
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Haters are always gonna hate. Even if Apple hadn’t missed AirPower, the critics will still have found some other issue (be it real or imaginary) to bash Apple over.
Such is the way it has always been, such is the way it will always be.
So this isn't going to have all the old Master System/Mega Drive-Genesis/Super Nintendo/Nintendo games?
Switch seems pretty good for all those old games. Might see if I can pick one up cheap. Not interested in new games, just want a portable version of 8bit and 16bit games.
Switch seems pretty good for all those old games. Might see if I can pick one up cheap. Not interested in new games, just want a portable version of 8bit and 16bit games.
I think you know what he meant. But since you asked, how bout games that can’t be beat in less than an hour?
Simply put, console quality games.
I own several Apple devices so hardly a hater. Apple has earned my loyalty but they need to keep earning it and they’re not as solid as they once were. I’m a customer not a fanboy.
Btw, snarkers gonna snark and sometimes need their eyes opened with a shot of their own medicine.
that’s how it works for games. They are often released in beta for a discount, but none are offered freely
I think the nature of smartphone games tends to lend themselves to games that can be enjoyed in short bursts (ie: 5-10 minutes at a stretch). Basically any time you have a couple of minutes to kill.
This is likely what Apple is targeting - curation for the masses. Console-quality games like Grimvalor or Implosion may have higher production values, but they are also the sort of games you really want to sit down at a table with a game controller in hand for hours on end to really get the full experience. And that is extremely limiting when you think about it. That is not the scenario Apple is going for.
I am also willing to bet that there will be a decent mix of all the various categories. We know oceanhorn 2 will be one of the bundled titles, so that’s your ARPG fix right there.
If this is to be a real arcade it needs:
For that authentic experience. It needs to be 25¢ per game-play. Randomly not work and take my money. Randomly not accept payment and require me to keep trying different virtual coin slots until it accepts it.
- Pole Position
- Terminator 2
- After Burner
- Street Fighter II
- Space Invaders
- Missile Command
- Pac Man
- 1942
- Donkey Kong
- Rampage
- Paper Boy
- Mortal Combat
- Outrun
- Skate or Die
- Marble Madness
- Golden Axe
- Gauntlet
- Super Off Road
For that authentic experience. It needs to be 25¢ per game-play. Randomly not work and take my money. Randomly not accept payment and require me to keep trying different virtual coin slots until it accepts it.
Why wouldn't "gamers" take this seriously? Microsoft has a similar subscription service. The only difference is the caliber of games, which I suspect will rise if the service is a success.
This so much! Everything started so well... And then the Freemium crap hit and it has been all downhill from there.
$700B has been created after Steve Jobs died.
Failure in your mind isn’t reality. Cook has been a demonstrably fantastic CEO.
Arcade will hit if Apple continues to invest in it. They have plenty of money to do so.
It’s harder to keep secrets the larger and more popular the company becomes and also with social media, mobile cameras, financial rewards for leaking, etc. Even 10-15 years ago, it was not as easy to sneak a quick picture on a powerful mobile phone and Tweet it. Jobs would have been no better at keeping the new iPhones a secret today. Literally impossible.
The ATV with a bit of tweaking could be a good console , couldn't it ???
Look at the Switch , that can't be much more powerful than the ATV and it's got some great games on it
Look at the Switch , that can't be much more powerful than the ATV and it's got some great games on it
This is the only new service that I am semi-interested in. Hoping there is a bundle with Apple Music. This could be a good deal for our family. A big reason I got out of iOS gaming was that I felt like IAPs ruined everything. Also less time to play.
Yeah, a lot of games nowadays feel same-y. But let me guess, have you recently entered your 30s? Because if so, the same thing happened to me. There is just less time so I end up watching a few videos of people playing the games I am interested in instead. I also think part of the problem is that I am overwhelmed by my backlog. I end up playing nothing because it feels so impossible to get through everything I want to and I end up being paralyzed by the choice, lol. It's weird. I end up having videos/streams of games I'm interested in playing on my second display while working on other things. At least I can watch other people having fun, lol.
I think he comparing with some desktop level PC gaming which usually playable only with proper setup (Far Cry, GTA V, Watchdog, just a few names)
Those game usually needs powerful discrete GPU, some headroom for overclocked, better thermal solution which usually only found in gaming rig.
At that level, only 2019 cheese grater who can achieve that, but seriously no people shell out $6000 only for playing games.
I bet those game rely heavily on Metal 2 to achieve maximum optimizations.
After I bought my iPad Pro 11" and some good game titles (paid, no freemium garbage), Ι changed my mind about what is "real gaming". I really enjoy it (especially the 120fps games) and can't wait for Apple Arcade.
iPad Pro's screen, A12X and PS4 controller are a superb combination, I really hope Apple will release an A12X Apple TV.
P.S. I own a PS4.
iPad Pro's screen, A12X and PS4 controller are a superb combination, I really hope Apple will release an A12X Apple TV.
P.S. I own a PS4.
I'm thinking $5 would be the sweet spot. Basically the price of a single app but you get access to a library of games
Those games will need to come to the ATV first. What I wouldn't kill for Grimvalor to run natively on my ATV instead of via adaptor from my iPad.
That’s a fairly easy question. I have a PS4 and I love the console and the games on it. I’ve poured some heavy hours into the PS4 titles BUT I also find myself on the road a lot, at work, public transit commuting, etc. PS4 Remote Play just isn’t up to par yet. Maybe next generation Sony will have it figured out and OTA remote gaming will have it’s time (I hope!). I see Apple Arcade as an excellent entertainment option for gaming on my iPad/Mac on the go with what sounds like some solid AAA games. If it’s $10/mo that equals two console games ($60/ea) for the year. Totally worth it even for someone like me who enjoys console gaming but can’t always find time to be home and in front of the console.
The current iPhones and iPads are significantly more powerful than the switch. Apple has a stated objective with the arcade to give people who want standalone, story driven experiences something to play and try to stop the stranglehold of freemium games.
I don't get what there isn't to like about this.
I don't get what there isn't to like about this.
Oceanhorn 2 is an open-world action adventure taking heavy inspiration from Legend of Zelda. It's predecessor was about the length of the recent (new) hand-held Zelda games (~15–20 hours), the sequel is claimed to be longer and bigger.
Overland is a turn-based survival game. I have seen it described as something like a hybrid between Oregon Trail and XCOM.
Beyond A Steel Sky is a story-driven cyberpunk adventure game.
Atone is a narrative 2D puzzle adventure/RPG game.
The Bradwell Conspiracy is a first-person narrative exploration/puzzle game.
Does any of these games sound like a simplified, one-button casual game to you?
I'm not saying everything coming to Apple Arcade will offer a deep gameplay experience. Quite contrary, there are quite a few games in the announced line-up which seem to be trite shovelware crap. But claiming there are nothing but simple casual games coming is either uninformed or actively ignorant.
There certainly won't be any "triple-AAAYYY" games like GTA V, Assassin's Creed, or Battlefield coming to Apple Arcade, as these simply would be out of the scope of the targeted platforms – both performancewise and playabilitywise –, but good, acclaimed indie games in the vein of LIMBO, Hyperlight Drifter, Tacoma, FTL, or Into The Breach are absolutely a possibility.
All depending on Apple's perseverance, of course. If they lose interest in gaming again a few months later (as they were prone to do in the past), it's all for naught.
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Haha, you know this happened as recently as the Apple Card.
Using employees for beta testing is nothing new, the $0.49/month fee is probably just to test the billing process.