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I miss Apple Computer Inc.

Amen! We might as well scratch the new name as well and go with:

AppleSoft

---- OR ----

MicroApple

They are pretty much doing the same thing except Apple's software works much better. If only Mac OS X could run on PC hardware.... what a day that would be.

Hope they at least redesign the MacBook Pros BEFORE Monteniva or whatever it's called.
 
Green Plug

Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here
 
Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here

Hmmm.... innovation.... that's not Apple's thing anymore. ;)
 
So you will have to pay for sdk???

No, that wasn't what I meant (and since I won't be developing anything myself, I couldn't care less). I meant that the products will propable have to be sold through iTunes and in order to get any of the apps the release of the sdk will result, you will have to pay Apple – even for basic apps/features.
 
Just ran across this by accident and thought I'd post it here to see what you guys thought. What if apple was to start to use green plug in their new products? Green Plug is a Universal Power Adapter that uses a chip in the power cord that is plugged into the green plug adapter and adjusts the voltage to the preset chip. This means one power cord for every product and no power brick. If you take a look at it from a futuristic approach Green Plug could make a power outlet that could eliminate the adapter and could eventually become a standard for homes. Green Plug not to mention is extremely environmentally friendly!
Here's a link to a demo of the product: Here

Throw'em ALL away, including that one, and settle for mini USB already instead of coming up with yet another "standard." We're finally making some progress, inasmuch as my PDA phone, GPS, GPS for the PDA phone, and so forth already using the same power supply. One for at home, one for the car. Took only 12 years.
 
Throw'em ALL away, including that one, and settle for mini USB already instead of coming up with yet another "standard." We're finally making some progress, inasmuch as my PDA phone, GPS, GPS for the PDA phone, and so forth already using the same power supply. One for at home, one for the car. Took only 12 years.

That seems more reasonable, and Apple and other companies are already doing that. All we need now is more USB ports on the iMac and MacBook so users can charge their iPod/cell phones/GPS/cameras/etc.

Or maybe Apple can have devices charge through the FW800/3200 port and put more useful ports on their machines like that one.
 
No, that wasn't what I meant (and since I won't be developing anything myself, I couldn't care less). I meant that the products will propable have to be sold through iTunes and in order to get any of the apps the release of the sdk will result, you will have to pay Apple – even for basic apps/features.

So do you suggest that I should take the risk of bricking my iphone by jailbreaking it. Or wait for SDK??
 
So do you suggest that I should take the risk of bricking my iphone by jailbreaking it. Or wait for SDK??

I am not suggesting either way. It's entirely up to you. The thing is, if you're happy with it, the way it is, why jailbreak it? And if you want the JB-options enough to take the risk, then do so, otherwise wait for the SDK to see if it will be worth it then.
Me, I won't be buying an iPhone (at all – it's several years behind the times as I see it), and although the touch would be nice, it is also way too limited – all in an effort to keep you locked in, way more than should be necessary. Personally, I am waiting for the sdk to appear before I reconsider buying that thing. The reason being I don't want to buy a product that ties me hand and feet an at the same time is asking me to pay extra (on top of the already high prices), and yet it can't even do disk mode.

After how Apple seem to have begun behaving, I am not willing to buy anything based on some hope or promise that there will be added any features to the items in the future. And with that, I am not buying anything from apple, unless they from the get-go are ready for use as I want them to be. They are simply crippling their products way, way too much.

The new touch, shipping with 1.1.3, cannot be jb'ed since 1.1.3 isn't broken. And that means you hve to trust Apple to deliver at some future date. You have to keep in mind, that all the benefits of the release of an SDK is pure speculation. Noone knows how crippled it will be, and how much tie-in it will have with iTunes, and how much (if anything) Apple will charge per "app". Judging from their recent behaviour, the no-disk mode, and so forth, though, I am willing to bet it will continue to be very crippled, and Apple will continue breaking (and bricking) any workaround that their iTouch/iPhone should have had from the get-go.

Now, you be the judge of whether running the risk and the trouble is worth it. :p

Edit: Looks like 1.1.3 has been jailbroke, but apparently not released:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/417834/
 
Amen! We might as well scratch the new name as well and go with:
AppleSoft
---- OR ----
MicroApple
They are pretty much doing the same thing except Apple's software works much better. If only Mac OS X could run on PC hardware.... what a day that would be.
Hope they at least redesign the MacBook Pros BEFORE Monteniva or whatever it's called.

...or MicrApple...hahaha
Yeah, Apple's OS is very good which is a big reason why I'm looking forward to the MBP update...so I can use OS X. Regarding running OS X on PC hardware though, have you seen this?

How To:
http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/build-a-hackintosh-mac-for-under-800-321913.php
Benchmarks:
http://lifehacker.com/software/benchmarks/hackintosh-vs-mac-pro-vs-macbook-pro-benchmarks-322866.php

A friend of mine has built one and says his is running fine and he's using Tiger for now. I don't know a lot about it myself as I'm not very tech-minded, but it seems an interesting alternative. I'm a sucker for the nice looks of Macs though.
 
I am not suggesting either way. It's entirely up to you. The thing is, if you're happy with it, the way it is, why jailbreak it? And if you want the JB-options enough to take the risk, then do so, otherwise wait for the SDK to see if it will be worth it then.
Me, I won't be buying an iPhone (at all – it's several years behind the times as I see it), and although the touch would be nice, it is also way too limited – all in an effort to keep you locked in, way more than should be necessary. Personally, I am waiting for the sdk to appear before I reconsider buying that thing. The reason being I don't want to buy a product that ties me hand and feet an at the same time is asking me to pay extra (on top of the already high prices), and yet it can't even do disk mode.

After how Apple seem to have begun behaving, I am not willing to buy anything based on some hope or promise that there will be added any features to the items in the future. And with that, I am not buying anything from apple, unless they from the get-go are ready for use as I want them to be. They are simply crippling their products way, way too much.

The new touch, shipping with 1.1.3, cannot be jb'ed since 1.1.3 isn't broken. And that means you hve to trust Apple to deliver at some future date. You have to keep in mind, that all the benefits of the release of an SDK is pure speculation. Noone knows how crippled it will be, and how much tie-in it will have with iTunes, and how much (if anything) Apple will charge per "app". Judging from their recent behaviour, the no-disk mode, and so forth, though, I am willing to bet it will continue to be very crippled, and Apple will continue breaking (and bricking) any workaround that their iTouch/iPhone should have had from the get-go.

Now, you be the judge of whether running the risk and the trouble is worth it. :p

Edit: Looks like 1.1.3 has been jailbroke, but apparently not released:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/417834/

I also got a touch and I was wondering if there was a risk in jailbrakeing that. Can it be bricked??
 
Just curious, for those that are frustrated with the iPhone and iPT because they don't have enough features, are too limited or intentionally crippled. What exactly would you like them to be able to do? How is either product crippled? The first answer I think of is the ability to use third party apps is important. What other features are lacking? I ask honestly as I'm thinking of getting an iPT down the road when the 64GB comes out. I now have a 3rd gen iPod and compared to that, the iPT looks loaded with features. I know one feature I will miss (unless Apple fixes it) is disk mode. My 3rd gen iPod has this, but the iPT doesn't. That is a step backward and hardly innovative. That's the only crippling thing I see though so I feel I'm missing something since so many seem to say the iPhone and iPT are still lacking features.
 
I also got a touch and I was wondering if there was a risk in jailbrakeing that. Can it be bricked??

I doubt anyone can give you an answer. The thing is, people have been reporting the Toch to have bricked, while others have said there's were bricked only to continue trying and getting them to work. However, noone can tell if apple will brick a jailbreaked Touch (or phone) in the next update. So, if you do jailbreak (afaik you can restore it to a clean apple-version) make sure to test whether the next update will break it or not, before applying it.

As always: Buyer beware. Also with regards to my post. I am by no means an expert. Not even close. I am not buying an iPhone, and so far the Touch isn't worth it either (although 32GB would be my sweet spot): Hence I do not own any of it, nor have I personally jailbroken any of the two.
 
Do you think I would get an upgrade?

I bought my MBP online and received it in December last year. I found that the graphics card was not working and hence took it to an apple store where they confirmed my problem. I then called applecare who said they would replace the laptop. But I have not been able to send in my mac since I needed it for school work. Do you think if I waited to send it in until the updates I could benefit from it?
 
Just curious, for those that are frustrated with the iPhone and iPT because they don't have enough features, are too limited or intentionally crippled. What exactly would you like them to be able to do?

I'll concentrate on the Touch, as that is the one I am interested in, but I would like apple to at least not actively cripple them more than necessary. I mean, I can (just) live with it not having a teeny, weeny FM-chip, but not try tying people n their hand and feet in order to sell you a tiny bit less crippled product two months later.

How is either product crippled? The first answer I think of is the ability to use third party apps is important. What other features are lacking?

Indeed that is an important one.

Flash is another one. Yes, one could parrot Steve Jobs and say that that had been left out to save on the battery, but really, that should be up to the user to choose.

Then there's the lack of supported security (WPA Enterprise for one).

They can build computers with, say, a danish layout, but there is no real keyboard layout for danish users. Our last three letters, æ, ø, å (yes, they are individual letters, not variations of others) are incorporated in a cumbersome way.

Or how about the fact that you weren't allowed (don't know if they allow that now??) to edit or even add calender appointments?

Or that several of the apps that were actually working on the iPhone, you had to wait for for a long time, and when it finally appeared for the Touch, you had to pay an extra 20 bucks.

Now, what else is crippled on that thing?
Oh, yes, I have been told (I'm only 95 percent sure of this), that you cannot use iSync to sync addresses and whatnot. No, no, you have to use iTunes.

Which brings me to:

Disk Mode!! That one is not allowed – apparently because they want your Touch to be locked into iTunes 100 percent. Who cares that many people actually use disk mode. Hell, they even had disk mode on their very first iPod. But this? Nope! You cannot use it with anything else, or for anything that is not 100 percent condoned by apple. And not only that, it has to go through iTunes.

This, to me, is beginning to look very much like what MS did with their IE-crap.


I ask honestly as I'm thinking of getting an iPT down the road when the 64GB comes out. I now have a 3rd gen iPod and compared to that, the iPT looks loaded with features. I know one feature I will miss (unless Apple fixes it) is disk mode. My 3rd gen iPod has this, but the iPT doesn't. That is a step backward and hardly innovative. That's the only crippling thing I see though so I feel I'm missing something since so many seem to say the iPhone and iPT are still lacking features.

I'm 100 percent with you. That "feature" I consider the most crippling.

With regards to the iPhone there are many things, but somewhere in these threads someone mentioned that it cannot do MMS, it cannot forward SMS's, but there are numerous other things –*most of which I cannot remember right now.

The funny thing is, when it comes to Denmark officially, it will most certainly be priced just a tad under the Bang-Olufsen Serenata, which, although it has an embarrasing amount of storage (4GB) is 3G and a very, very nice phone, with the features that is needed for a modern phone. Compare the specs of the iPhone to the Serenata.
 
Tosser, thanks for your reply. This makes more sense now. I had forgotten about Flash (I'm assuming you mean Flash Player for web animations and such). This is important to me as well and another cause of frustration from a product that's supposed to have "the real internet".
The lack of supported security you mention, do you mean it is not secure when browsing the web or that it can easily get a virus or hacked? If so, I did not realize this.
These are definitely some things to think about before I get an iPT. One thing I know, I'm not paying over $400 for one even if it is 64GB. Even $400 is asking for a lot.
 
Tosser, thanks for your reply. This makes more sense now. I had forgotten about Flash (I'm assuming you mean Flash Player for web animations and such).

No problem, and yup, I meant Flash Player – should have been more clear about that.

This is important to me as well and another cause of frustration from a product that's supposed to have "the real internet".
Me too, especially since a few of the websites (actually databases) I frequent and do searches in have flash elements (yes, I know, poor design, but I am but a user, not the programmer).

The lack of supported security you mention, do you mean it is not secure when browsing the web or that it can easily get a virus or hacked? If so, I did not realize this.

I meant not supporting it, so you cannot connect to wi-fi with that type of connection. Btw, I don't know if it's the same type they're talking about (I can't seem to find the threads right now), but people have been complaining about not being able to connect to the wifi at their college – apparently because the Touch doesn't support the standard at their place. Now, if it isn't WPA enterprise, there is yet another thing the touch doesn't do.

These are definitely some things to think about before I get an iPT. One thing I know, I'm not paying over $400 for one even if it is 64GB. Even $400 is asking for a lot.
Yup. Especially since it cannot do what a 10$ usb stick can because SJ & Co decided we, the users, don't need that.
 
Sheesh, sounds like Apple really needs to get to work as far as making these things more usable. So, right now the iPT only works on WEP?

EDIT: Or not "get to work" but rather ease off and stop intentionally crippling these products.
 
Sheesh, sounds like Apple really needs to get to work as far as making these things more usable. So, right now the iPT only works on WEP?

And WPA Personal (which, btw, isn't that secure, so I'd advice against using that encryption for your home network).


EDIT: Or not "get to work" but rather ease off and stop intentionally crippling these products.
Yes, my beef exactly.
 
Mmm. Well my touch connects fine to my n/g wireless WPA encrypted network.

Propably. But not WPA enterprise.

Added: oh, hahaha, sorry about these constant add-ons. But apparently it doesn't do 802.1x either! This is becoming a very long journey in shortcomings, imo.
 
How is this related to the rumored :apple: Event ?

Think updates for the iPhone and Touch and the SDK that everyone is awaiting.

Okay, I'll stop with the adding now, but apparently there aren't the place where they haven't criplled this thing or locked it very firmly:
You need to have a .mac account to sync your notes. Yes, you create them in mail.app (on your _leopard-based_ computer), and then you sync them to your Touch through the must-have .mac account. You didn't have to pay for .mac account to sync notes with the older iPods. But this one is special, I guess.

It amazes me so many of these crippled devices have been able to get across the counter. I am truly stunned, that there's yet another crippling under each and every stone turned. I wonder how long people will fall for this.
 
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