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Its funny, they talk all about too much in detail how its build, materials, inner workings, that only factory / designers care. I have seen this trend more and more in few years, seems desperate stuff. Steve Jobs only focused showing stuff that customers care in real world. Like a normal customer would cares some magic "crystals" materials LOL
So true. I like soft touch materials in my car but to me my phone is just a brick inside a rubber case with glass
 
Agreed, the pro stuff was boring because it's actually too pro.
I really like the Air
Yeah, because for how expensive those shots are to film, anyone is going to use a rice grain sized lens on a microdot of a sensor. Other than a few propaganda pieces and film school projects, nobody’s shooting movies on this consumer toy.
 
My god absolute yawn. If you’re shelling out a million dollars for a CGI animation of how a vapor chamber cooling system works, you clearly are filling time. The end user doesn’t need or want to know how the signal is sent from the chip to the screen, or how the phone regulates its internal temperature.

I do, the pro gets really hot on a filming day in Los Angeles
 
I was so set on getting the Pro (normal one) for the battery life... but it has only a 1 hour more difference to the normal 17... and beside that 17 has the more awesome colors. Really thinking about just getting the normal 17 this time... I dont make much pictures and videos even more rarely. Dont see a point to drop that much more money on the Pro.
Honestly though...the iPhone 17 seems like a great play for $300 less. And you are losing what? One camera and the "Pro" moniker off the A19 chip? Also thinner than the Pro version.
 
Well I'm still attempting to locate my awe which I think got stuck somewhere in my large intestine. Nothing caused it to drop.

So the flagship Apple Watch Ultra 3 now has the battery life of Google large but by no means Ultra Google Pixel Watch 4 45mm. God help Apple if Google Ultras the Pixel Watch 4 and enhances the battery life.

If I have an Apple Watch and an Iphone and airpods pro 3 I can now have my heart rate measured simultaneously 3 times (are Apple suffering from OCD issues?). Couldn't we have just had lossless hi res codecs instead and better sound quality?

The 8*zoom on the Iphone 17 pro was nice but frankly the only thing that dropped for me was sheer incredulity that they have become so smug that they think this was awe dropping (whatever the heck that means). The vapour chamber cooling areas are clearly where the marketing department lurks and they produce precisely that
... vapour!

Hypertension measure (a software thing) and sleep score which every other device i've got produces were the only other real interesting developments and at best they were software only and its taken Apple a year to come up with this???

As to the bastardization of language - the Iphone 17 Air is not paradoxical! It may be many thing but paradoxical it is not.
 
I know I kid a lot about these events anymore, but if you are genuinely excited about the updated Apple gear that is coming out, I'm happy for you. I wish I could feel the same way I used to about it, like when the iPhone X was launched and the years prior.
that's probably the last time it was a decent release. before that, they were a bit exciting. since the X, it's been a farce.
 
simple iPhone 17 will geopardise sales of Pro.
Pro has really become a feature for creators and camera men.

Pro-motion (to keep up with Samsung and Google), will take away sales from Pro. Easy.

But they have no choice (vs. competition).

Look at the sock price (dropping big time as presentation happens).

Amazing (although repeated like 1000x times, more than camera zoom), did not happen.

people (like me) will still buy 17 iphone (and by the way 16 pro will get a maaaaasive discount, as the only thing better vs. iphone 17 - is probably camera).

so this year the buyer is the king. Also considering Pixel Pro and Samsung.

Apple is becoming a commodity, sorry folks, but time is running out for the company. They need to innovate (including AI).

I can remember Nokia who were specializing in phones. Things might just happen to apple if phone industry is transformed (where Apple is no longer a leader / beacon).

i may be too pessimistic, but, just take a step back and compare vs. outer world.
Exactly. U have everything in regular iphone right now except camera features. Pro iphone's really have less sense now.
 
So what are the thoughts on the colour choice for the Pro? I'm struggling between silver and orange if I do upgrade.
 
Underwhelming event, stock is down. No announcements for software or services at all, which was a real surprise. Not even a single accessory. Iterative updates to all the products. If our watch batteries weren't down, we'd have skipped this cycle again.

Just once though, I want Tim to say 'this isn't our best phone ever, that was two years ago, this one sucks a bit compared to it.'
 
I mean I realize it's not really live, but I wouldn't have included segments, set in the same country, filmed at night when the host is supposed to be in Cupertino in the morning.
Worldwide audience. Right now it’s nighttime for a lot of people.
 
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