Apple Event Live Coverage: Apple Silicon Macs Announced! [Full Transcript of Event]

[CE3]

Unified memory = no upgradable RAM in Mini and future iMacs?

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I hope not, because Apple’s RAM upgrade prices are a joke.

 

[Benz63amg]

They'll likely update after Big Sur is released.

They need to be ready for when people upgrade to Big Sur, how can they release it AFTER?

 

[MacModMachine]

Yeah.....you're right.....you are very confused.

you can only run ios apps on the arm....wont work on intel. dev's need a catalyst version if they want to run on intel.

 

[MallardDuck]

Same crap camera.....that’s a downer

thunderbolt 3 and usb 4. that's odd. at least wifi 6. But yeah, the webcam is a wtf.

 

[Ulfric]

Agreed. They purposefully avoided comparing the GPU to dGPUs - they aren't ready for the higher-end Pro machines yet

Besides they were comparing it against Intel HD 630. I don't think they were comparing it against VEGA 8 in new AMD CPUs (Laptop SKUs). Cause VEGA 8 are capable of running AAA games at 1080P 60 FPS. E-sports title runs at 100-120 FPS.

 

[thadoggfather]

Same crap camera.....that’s a downer

I really dont understand the holdup

even if lid thinness is the bottleneck, they could easily fit it with a protruding lens like on iPhones, and keep a divot on on the Bottom case underneath the trackpad or whatever for it to close properly

 

[neoelectronaut]

These keynotes always make me feel like a filthy poor person for not having a job that's worth of appearing in an Apple Keynote.

 

[alien3dx]

you can only run ios apps on the arm....wont work on intel. dev's need a catalyst version if they want to run on intel.

the main issue are we still using simulator or emulator

 

[ipponrg]

I’m expecting a silent 16 inch refresh, and hopefully a new Intel Tigerlake 16 inch next year.

I hope you are right. I was hoping they'd refresh the 16"

 

[boxrick]

Odd how there is a 7 core and 8 core GPU in the air, seems random to have different skews of this machine. Who even knows the performance differences?

 

[MallardDuck]

most question soldered ram ?

Yup, that'll never change. Ditto on SSD.

 

[GadgetBen]

WE HAVE PROOF OF THE TAGS. THEY DONT TALK ABOUT THE TAGS, ITS A BIG CONSPIRACY!!

 

[ssgbryan]

I wouldn't give them that much credit. I would say anyone complaining about this keynote is a paid employee from one of Apple's PC competitors. They are pissed because Apple's show was filled with innovations. I don't see any innovations from any of Apple's competitors. I mean wake me up when Dell creates it's own processor chip that manages battery, security, performance and along with their own OS. Yeah that won't happen.

Nope - just some of us use computers to actually do things.

 

[Maconplasma]

you can only run ios apps on the arm....wont work on intel. dev's need a catalyst version if they want to run on intel.

I think you're replying to the wrong person.

 

[LillDrutten]

I think function wise the lack of support for apple-pen was the biggest disappointment. At least they could have use that for differentiator for the Air/Pro. Quite happy that the Air got two thunderbolt, but form what gadget manufactures says it is pain in the ass to get drivers there.

 

[grad]

most question soldered ram ?

Hehe, did you really have to ask ?

 

[phgreer]

The products are great but the Keynote put me to sleep. Miss the reality distortion field.

 

[simonmet]

Theres still a pandemic going on. The world doesn't revolve around you.

I think they mean the online store.

 

[Johnny907]

They need to be ready for when people upgrade to Big Sur, how can they release it AFTER?

Day One update, maybe?

 

[MacModMachine]

I think you're replying to the wrong person.

too many beers

 

[gnasher729]

They said the high efficiency cores are the same speed as the current Mac Air cores. That means a 16" running this would be slower than a current 16". It wouldn't make sense to release a 16" computer until they have a chip with 8 high-performance cores.

Huh? What I read was "up to 3.5 times faster".

 

[KPOM]

I think they mean the online store.

It's already up. I placed my order for the higher end Air.

 

[D.T.]

Im sill confuse about something. You can only run iOS Apps with the M1 chip?

M1 based Macs run M1 specific apps, i.e., MacOS Big Sur, bundled apps (Photos, Mail, Notes), Apple apps (Garage Band, Keynote, etc.), and 3rd party apps that have been recompiled (aka, rebuilt for this new hardware), plus there's a bundled utility called Rosetta 2 (the first version was used for the PPC changeover), that lets the M1 based Macs run the current, Intel CPU compiled apps. As a side perk, the M1 Macs can __also__ run iPad and iPhone apps without any changes being made to those apps.

Unsurprisingly, all of these first wave ARM Macs seem to all be the entry level or everyday Macs. I'm wondering how long it will take for them to actually reach competitiveness with the higher end of the performance spectrum where the 16" MacBook Pro and Mac Pro live. It's also curious that the event noted that the ARM variant has "up to 16 GB" of RAM available, but the current Intel offerings have up to 32 GB on the higher end, I wonder if they will still offer an Intel variant for awhile.

Yeah, this is an interesting limit, I was very interested in the Mini, but you'll note that it's [also] limited to 16GB and the performance comparisons were made vs. the 4-core i5 (not the 6-core i7 model like I own).

I think what we're seeing is a very fixed tier of, like you pointed out, "everyday Macs", and that the next SOC spec, the "M2" will have much higher performance, offer 32-64GB RAM and be the hardware for the 16" MBP and another Mini variant (that I wouldn't be surprised if they called a Mini Pro).

 

[UBS28]

What does the 16-core neural engine do btw?

 

[Benz63amg]

Day One update, maybe?

So on Thursday? What time would it usually go live? 1PM?