Apple Explains How to Get Ready for Vision Pro Pre-Orders Next Week

[Apple_Robert]

You all have fun with this beta. Hard pass for me. Too rich for my blood.

Consider taking a blood thinner.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

In actuality, I suspect the iPhone/iPad App (Apple Store app?) will simply be updated with a tool to "suggest" a size for the headband and light seal based on the Face Scanning and you will then include that info with your order. I would find it hard to believe they would not make this scanning process available ahead of the pre-order.

The features were added to the Apple Store app in the Jan 11 update. Question is when Apple will activate the functionality.

 

[clary]

Locked and loaded. Bring it.

 

[tobyringle69]

Yeah I’m kinda bummed as my next eye appt is on the 27th, so no preorder for me.

You can always order the VP without the RX lenses, and order them at a later time. That has to be option, as people's eye scripts change all the time.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

“Apple will offer two versions of the ZEISS Optical Inserts at different price points. "ZEISS Optical Inserts — Readers" will be available for $99, while "ZEISS Optical Inserts — Prescription" will be available for $149.” (https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/08/vision-pro-lens-inserts-to-start-at-99/)

I’d say that readers, by definition, are not prescription glasses and therefore can’t require a prescription.

BUT...for example, I buy cheap progressive readers on Amazon. Are these "readers" they are selling progressive or bi-focal? And, are you CERTAIN we don't need prescriptions? I wish Apple would be explicit about this.

 

[richard371]

BUT...for example, I buy cheap progressive readers on Amazon. Are these "readers" they are selling progressive or bi-focal? And, are you CERTAIN we don't need prescriptions? I wish Apple would be explicit about this.

Only Apple knows. You can get a prescription for readers esp high end glasses. Unless Apple clarifies ill order the headset without the readers and buy later. I don't want to complicate things on launch day buy getting to checkout and it say i need a prescription.

 

[redheeler]

You can't even resell this. So most of them will end up on the shelf collecting dust after a few months, and eventually the landfill.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

I love the hype for this ultra expensive device, I am sure that it may provide imagery that looks really cool, however IMHO the wearer looks odd because the headset is just out of place for the wearer...

....not to mention the relative social isolation, because unless you can afford more than one or have slews of friends that have one, your going to be the only one sitting there with a odd looking mask on your face giving you spiffy imagery that no one else can share since the device winds up being custom fit for you....

So, you're just really concerned about me and my wellbeing? That's sweet. Thanks.

 

[MBAir2010]

they should be fun
and fun for cycling
since the car drivers won't text anymore
their hands will be free to steer a wheel.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

All you need to know is your number. Like are you +1.75 with Readers? Then order that prescription. Or, call the last place you had an eye exam and get your numbers there.

But, I'd still need to know if these are bifocal or progressive. It seems to me that bifocal really woudn't work in the format, and that they'd have to be progressive. But with progressives I order differently; I order stronger than I need at the bottom so that just above the bottom my reading is ideal.

The point being, Apple isn't giving us enough information.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

The face scanning is for the light seal, which you’ll obviously eventually be able to buy totally separately.
Also, people seem to keep wanting to forget this, but there is a guest mode, so even at launch it’s not just for one user.
So obviously, multiple people are going to be using it, everyone is going to want their own custom fitted light seal…
Obviously, the actual headset part is going to be the same shape and size for everyone.

Except as I understand it, Guest Mode is limited to like 10 minutes of use.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

So the prescription lenses can only be ordered at the same time as the actual Vision Pro? That's not ideal -- I'd have to go get a current prescription, even though I'd prefer to try it out with contacts first.

It has to be that you can buy prescriptions later. People's eyes change and some would need to buy new inserts.

 

[iStorm]

I think people are going to need to rethink what your desktop means. Do you really need a “Desktop” and what is it? The term multi-monitor is only needed when content HAS to be displayed on the monitor. If the entire environment is you monitor then you can open as many apps as your heart desires and have as many windows “Displays” as you need.

Right, but you also have to keep in mind that you can only do this for visionOS apps. Many people are thinking they can do this with Mac apps too, but you can't.

Anything you do on the Mac through the Vision Pro will be limited/constrained to one virtual desktop window. For example, you cannot have Xcode in its own window floating on your left and Parallels floating on your right. Mac apps would have to be open side-by-side on the Mac desktop in order to see them all at once (or use Spaces to switch between them one at a time).

 

[stu.h]

Congrats to the 80k people that get one, you'll get a piece of history I'm sure.
Keep one sealed

 

[Crow_Servo]

This will be an interesting launch. I haven’t followed the launch of a new Apple product this closely before, so it’s pretty fun. I already have the PSVR2, so I won’t be personally jumping on this initial version, but I will definitely read about it and watch videos about it, and possibly get version 2 or 3, if Apple looks like they still have a passion for it.

Really curious how the picture quality compares to Sony’s headset. It’s also really cool that it doesn’t have to be tethered to another device, so you could use it in any room of your house.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

Interesting.
So MacRumours are wrong?

I think there is confusion in the way this gets discussed.

You can have 1 screen share "window/monitor" from the Mac. But you can have several (I'm sure there's some limit) Windows/monitors of individual apps (even tabs?) from native Vision OS apps.

From the presentation. The middle monitor is from the mac. The ones on the sides of it are VOS Apps:

 

[Timo_Existencia]

I went back and forth on wanting the Vision Pro headset but I think I am going to skip it. It still can’t replace a MacBook, it won’t run Xcode so it’s like an iPad in functionality. It’s a bit expensive for a media viewer or an external MackBook display (XDR excluded). So you can run apps that you would run on an iPad but in the air in front of you. It doesn’t sound powerful enough to run demanding games.

Thanks for keeping us updated.

 

[8KYUP]

Read it again... It says "Mac Virtual Display" and "virtual Mac screen". They didn't say "displays" or "Mac screens", nor did they say you can use multiple Mac displays.

Pretty sure you can only have one virtual Mac desktop monitor/screen (mirrored), but you can run visionOS apps alongside it. So yes, you can have multiple screens or windows (i.e. your Mac desktop, visionOS Messages, visionOS Photos, visionOS Notes, etc.), but you cannot have multiple Mac desktop monitors/screens.

There are only virtual monitors or virtual displays as this is a headset. All are virtually represented in a virtual environment. This is true regarless of the source (native or mac) and you can 100% have multiple virtual monitors.

Your mac content can also have mutiple windows but those will reside in a single virtual diplay frame, which can exist with native diplay frames arranged and scaled to your liking.

Crazy powerful!

 

[Born Again]

Might be based on your total lifetime spend with Apple. >$100,000 maybe?

lol - who here got the email?

 

[Born Again]

There are only virtual monitors or virtual displays as this is a headset. All are virtually represented in a virtual environment. This is true regarless of the source (native or mac) and you can 100% have multiple virtual monitors.

Your mac content can also have mutiple windows but those will reside in a single virtual diplay frame, which can exist with native diplay frames arranged and scaled to your liking.

Crazy powerful!

I don't believe that's accurate.

 

[dmr727]

For that price Apple Care better come with it!

Awwww...bless your heart!

 

[8KYUP]

I don't believe that's accurate.

It is. What part are you sceptical of?

 

[Crow_Servo]

lol - who here got the email?

I got one. I’ve definitely shown interest in Apple Vision Pro. There may have been a button on the product page that let you sign up for more info.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

No, what that poster is calling “monitors” are visionOS/iOS app windows. What everyone else means when talking about monitors are virtual monitors displayed by the Vision Pro that are equivalent to external monitors plugged into a Mac. Basically replicating a multi-monitor setup where you can view multiple MacOS app windows on multiple screens. The answer is no.

There's functionally no difference between an App window floating in space and a virtual monitor floating in space. I think some people are trying to confuse the issue with less than noble thoughts in mind. Trying to create drama and confusion where none exists.

Here's a screen shot from the intro video, showing 3 "windows" or "monitors."

Can you tell me which is which? Or what the functional difference is?

 

[scrapesleon]

oh cause I was wondering why they needed to scan my face but lets see if they will get the head size right