So the clarify you think Epic can do anything it wants and Apple can't do anything because of "gate keeping"?
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Apple Explains Why It Terminated Epic's Latest Developer Account
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So the clarify you think Epic can do anything it wants and Apple can't do anything because of "gate keeping"?
Gaming could be better on consoles if the consoles were free and the game developers did t have to give up a cut. Why should apple be the only company in the soup.
Actually, Sweeney said he would have accepted a special deal just for Epic if Apple had offered
Epic's Tim Sweeney said he would have taken special deal with Apple | AppleInsider
Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney said that he would have taken a special deal with reduced App Store commissions and fees if Apple had offered one to him.
appleinsider.com
There are plenty of legitimate issues developers have. Epic and Tim Sweeney specifically are not acting in good faith and never have been.
I used to love Apple, but they've lost their way. They're bending the knee to the almighty dollar instead of making insanely great products. Jobs was stubborn around App Store policies for the sake of quality.. Apple today is more worried about the revenue stream.
As I posted earlier, Steve’s attitude with flash wasn’t good. We know NOW it was a good thing. But it was quite a topic back then. And Steve has worse attitude than Tim Cook. Steve’s vision was computers should be locked down appliances. Not Tim Cook.
Which turned out to be wholly correct as Apple moved on from optical drives, as did most other computer makers, and now even the gaming consoles are removing them or just having them as an "add-on".
Oh? can you explain why? Can you point to exactly what parts of the DMA show that this is non compliant? The App Store is a platform, the developer's account is not. I'm pretty sure Apple employs brighter legal minds than you or I who have given the go ahead on this decision.
Apple is going from dumb, through dumber to the dumbest... and I think they are not done yet... 🙄
Had to quickly scan the MRumors article. Were the words "...scorched earth..." used to describe Apple's approach to the EU ?? Gotta give Tim Apple credit. They are standing their ground fearlessly.
If that was the case Apple wouldn’t be getting hit with billion dollar fines
"Would have accepted a special deal" is not the same thing as "asked for a special deal."
The EU will say no, you can't do that actually, but it will take a year and in the meanwhile Apple will just continue doing whatever it wants.
I don‘t really understand the people, they broke the rules and now are banned for life on this platform.
Remember Facebook distributing a spy VPN app with their enterprise account, which got them disabled only for a couple of days.
You cannot really judge companies with different scales. „Its only Epic so we setting an example“.
The whole point of the DMA is, that the gatekeeper should not decide who can or cannot be on the platform.
Remember Facebook distributing a spy VPN app with their enterprise account, which got them disabled only for a couple of days.
You cannot really judge companies with different scales. „Its only Epic so we setting an example“.
The whole point of the DMA is, that the gatekeeper should not decide who can or cannot be on the platform.
Apple should be able to control the platform they built.
And during the court cases it was proven Epic Games Store is operating at a loss. So yeah Apple takes a higher percentage because they have more than just a bare bones storefront.
That’s the problem. It’s OUR hardware. Not apples.
Seems perfectly OK to me. Apple believed it had the right to terminate due to breach, a view upheld by the courts, so they did. It’s their platform, they have a right to control access to it and don’t want to risk having to spend millions more to defend their right to terminate Epic again, so they are declining to accept future licence agreements and kicking out all subsidiaries. I think it unlikely Epic would be able to get a court to force Apple to enter into a licence agreement on the AppStore. I guess Epic shouldn’t have put themselves in this situation in the first place. As it stands, they do have the option in Europe to put their app into an alternative App Store, assuming they can find one that has acceptable commercial terms. As to the rest of the world? Well maybe they should have read those terms and conditions more closely or had better lawyers?
If an employer made an illegal rule, an employee violated it intentionally and won a ruling that the rule was illegal, then the employer fired that employee afterward, I'm curious what you think what would happen next.
No, the DMA clearly states that the Gatekeeper can implement measures or standards to protect the security of the platform as long as they are "strictly necessary and proportionate". Epic definitely cannot do "anything it wants", but Apple on the other side is quite limited in how and why they can prevent access.
Think about it: the whole point of the Gatekeeper provisions of the DMA is to prevent "gatekeeping". If a Gatekeeper were allowed to dictate contractual conditions to the third-parties and ban anyone who doesn't comply, the DMA would be completely meaningless as it would be easily circumvented through the contractual provisions imposed by the Gatekeeper.
The regulator definitely will have a say in whether this situation is compliant with the DMA and it would not surprise me if it does not.
The ease of use of the Apple App Store is miles better than anything that came before it. . . for $99 and the cost of development tools, I could sell an app with literally no additional out of pocket expenses. I would not need to pay for payment systems, distribution, refunds, a storefront, servers et al. I could be in business for under $2000 if I chose. No business opportunity in history, except perhaps some network marketing businesses, was this simple, inexpensive, and with global scope. IMO, the developers have been getting a bargain compared to the toils and tribulations of owning a traditional business. Or even the software business before the iOS store.
Can someone explain to me how Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc have handled this type of situation on their stores? How do their stores differ from Apples?