Apple Expo Paris 2004 Rumor Roundup

[DrGruv1]

can't wait..

any room for cards (pci) on the new imac?

p.s.

morpheus has a new chip he won't devulge on applenova

970GX

he's the guy that found the 970mp

 

[ccuilla]

It's coming soon for sure, but Apple did say September--and holding off a week or two might let Steve do the unveiling.

Goodness. The keynote IS August 31st. It is SUCH a big stretch to assume that Apple would announce them on August 31st and begin taking orders on September 1st? Well...you know what I mean.

 

[itsa]

We had new PBs in May so I wonder why people think there will be an update like 4 months later...

Because no one is buying the current lineup.

 

[nagromme]

Goodness. The keynote IS August 31st. It is SUCH a big stretch to assume that Apple would announce them on August 31st and begin taking orders on September 1st? Well...you know what I mean.

Not a stretch at all--I never suggested otherwise. I only suggest that it's ALSO not a stretch that they MIGHT do just what they said: announce in September. Possibly due to Jobs' situation.

 

[oingoboingo]

Because no one is buying the current lineup.

Do you have any evidence for that? I remember in the last Apple financials conference call they mentioned that notebook sales had exceeded desktop sales for the first time...the portable lineup can't be doing all that bad

 

[itsa]

Do you have any evidence for that? I remember in the last Apple financials conference call they mentioned that notebook sales had exceeded desktop sales for the first time...the portable lineup can't be doing all that bad

We are talking Powerbooks. Notebook sales over all may have exceeded desktops but not powerbooks. Also that is to be expected when they are not shipping desktops.

My responds was more of a joke than anything. I guess i should have added a :0) .
I do not know of anyone that would not like to see a notebook update. Not too many overjoyed with the last update.

 

[Porchland]

A ship date? Sometime between Jan 2005 and June 2005, or sometime *way* before Longhorn
But I'm guessing it'll most likely ship around WWDC time next year.

I watched the January keynote again tonight for a frame of reference of how Apple started the year and looked through the announcements from the year. There's not much that HASN'T been updated this year. So far we've gotten...

* iLife (full update, GarageBand)
* iPod 4G and mini
* new and updated video apps (FCP HD, DVD SP, Motion, FCE)
* Airport Express
* PowerBook updates
* iBook updates
* PowerMac G5 updates
* display updates
* wireless keyboard, mouse
* iSight update (coming this week)

Looking through the Apple store, there's not much left to update BUT the iMac, which is of course (barring a stunner) being updated in Paris.

There's not much software left to update without making a second update in 2004, i.e., the iLife apps, which probably will come in January.

That leaves us with Keynote and AppleWorks. I think they're both going to figure into a new iWork suite, featuring iWrite, Keynote 2, a spreadsheet and possibly a personal finance app. Totally a guess on my part, but based on the iWork and iWrite trademarks it seems a logical place to go.

 

[Sun Baked]

Well at-least until LCDs are comparable in price to CTRs.

But you've also got to compare things like how much power they use, and how much heat they give off. If the iMacs and eMacs had the exact same specs, and the only difference was a CTR, and the eMac was $100 cheaper, in the long run I'd say the iMac was a better choice.

The schools would choose the eMac's if the only difference was price -- for them the eMac is the better choice.

Get too expensive and the contracts are instantly handed to Dell, which would mean Apple made another horrible education choice.

And a measly $100 difference is all it would take to hand the market to Dell.

Apple cannot really give up on the $625 computer for education.

 

[relimw]

That leaves us with Keynote and AppleWorks. I think they're both going to figure into a new iWork suite, featuring iWrite, Keynote 2, a spreadsheet and possibly a personal finance app. Totally a guess on my part, but based on the iWork and iWrite trademarks it seems a logical place to go.

Hmm, that's actually not too bad of an idea, for Apple to come out with their own Office-like product. Would be nice for them to ship an Aquafied OpenOffice. Or even going beyond what M$ and openoffice do with an office suite, as they have done with the iLife suite.

 

[aus_dave]

TWO MONTHS?!?!? That's insane.

It sure is

What BTO changes did you make to the stock config?

5400 RPM HD only.

You know you can cancel your order without penalty if Apple takes more than 30 days to deliver it?

Ordered through a reseller so that's not an option. Next time I need Apple hardware I think I'll go to Hawaii for a holiday and have it shipped to my hotel .

 

[relimw]

The schools would choose the eMac's if the only difference was price -- for them the eMac is the better choice.

Apple cannot really give up on the $625 computer for education.

CRTs are also much more durable than LCDs in the hands of a 3rd grader.

 

[appleface]

can someone give a short and sweet summary of chamelion? the way people are talking about it, i think it sounds tacky in the same mold as black lights and lava lamps).

i can't get "tacky" out of my head either.

 

[DrPepper]

does the apple stores already have the updates, that are going to take place in paris, in there stores already? or do they get them later

 

[appleface]

iMac and proBand

There's not much that HASN'T been updated this year.
[...]
* Airport Express
* wireless keyboard, mouse
* iSight update (coming this week)

how about these three incorporated into the G5 imac. that'd be a sweet suite. free video conferencing and no wires. how delicious.

also, how about ProBand being released with 60 gig ipods and the introduction of dj ipod equipment. (that might make hp look bad.)

 

[appleface]

does no live video feed mean no big releases?

 

[Lucifer's Daddy]

Problems with the Bidouille images

Problems with the Bidouille images, proving the 'new' iMac to be fake.

1. box is proportionately identical to Powerbook 17" box
2. foam insides are not compatible with the shape and size of the iMac featured
3. if this were a quickie elevator shot, the iMac would be in close proximity to the foam wrapping that encases all new Mac's
4. the iMac does not have enough of the foam packing material surrounding the hardware - remember, there things are manufactured in China and shipped world wide. For such a robust piece of equipment, this type of packing is too small.
5. hey photo genius! show us the keyboard, mouse, manuals, barcodes - don't give me any lip about having to take the photos in a rush. you has enough time to unwrap it.
6. there's no photo of the box image. there is no proof. this is a big ass LCD (probably some gateway POS) panel with no chance of being something apple would release. it has no design.

Predictions (since everyone had a go):

- G5 iMac
- No Powerbook announcement until Feb 05
- bragging about some great alliance with HP over iPod's (which is why mine's back ordered -- they gave 'em all to HP)
- New version of Shake (more affordable)
- New iTunes that allows something or another
- No announcement of iPod secret features. The only secret feature would be the addition of WiFi - but why not announce that when they release the Airport Express??... sorry kiddies - that's a 5G iPod.
- A prerecorded message from Steve Jobs - I.V. hanging out of his arm for the sympathy factor (oooooh iI.V. - fluids for the rest of our life)
- and finally, Apple will announce that CD's are obsolete; making iPod's the only form of media transfer.

Rock on fellow mac addicts... see you Tuesday!

 

[dotnina]

Problems with the Bidouille images, proving the 'new' iMac to be fake.

1. box is proportionately identical to Powerbook 17" box
2. foam insides are not compatible with the shape and size of the iMac featured
3. if this were a quickie elevator shot, the iMac would be in close proximity to the foam wrapping that encases all new Mac's
4. the iMac does not have enough of the foam packing material surrounding the hardware - remember, there things are manufactured in China and shipped world wide. For such a robust piece of equipment, this type of packing is too small.
5. hey photo genius! show us the keyboard, mouse, manuals, barcodes - don't give me any lip about having to take the photos in a rush. you has enough time to unwrap it.
6. there's no photo of the box image. there is no proof. this is a big ass LCD (probably some gateway POS) panel with no chance of being something apple would release. it has no design. ::snip::

You forgot the biggest point of all: the guy who posted the pics admitted they're fakes.

 

[Lucifer's Daddy]

You forgot the biggest point of all: the guy who posted the pics admitted they're fakes.

Dammit... Oh well, that message only took 10 minutes to write.

 

[zelmo]

i can't get "tacky" out of my head either.

Tacky it may be, but imagine a scenario where Mr. PeeCee Dad is in the mall with his kid and sees the new iMac on display. The Apple logo on the front is pulsing different colors...bright blue for surfing the web, green for burning a CD or DVD disc, orange for incoming email alert, maybe a flashing red color to indicate that a questionable web site has been accessed. Isn't this the kind of thing that grabs the eye, maybe converts a PC user, and, let's face it, makes even a jaded Mac addict say "oohhh...shiny!!" ? Heck, if I'm sitting acrosss the room [like I'd ever be that far away from my Mac!] and the logo on the computer flashes to let me know I have mail, that's geeky chic, isn't it?

Gosh, I need serious help!

 

[JoePike]

I'm still predicting a surprise appearance by Steve Jobs to present maybe "one last thing" (not deliver an entire Stevenote, most likely) and show the world, particularly Wall Street, that he is back and healthy and the company is just fine. At the very least, he'll make an appearance over iChat with his new iSight version 2. There will be a Steve factor.....somewhere.

-Joe

 

[Lucifer's Daddy]

Tacky it may be, but imagine a scenario where Mr. PeeCee Dad is in the mall with his kid and sees the new iMac on display. The Apple logo on the front is pulsing different colors...bright blue for surfing the web, green for burning a CD or DVD disc, orange for incoming email alert, maybe a flashing red color to indicate that a questionable web site has been accessed. Isn't this the kind of thing that grabs the eye, maybe converts a PC user, and, let's face it, makes even a jaded Mac addict say "oohhh...shiny!!" ? Heck, if I'm sitting acrosss the room [like I'd ever be that far away from my Mac!] and the logo on the computer flashes to let me know I have mail, that's geeky chic, isn't it?

Gosh, I need serious help!

Can you see a whole classroom full of these though? Students admitted into psych wards having siezures - teachers developing a new twitch (matching their other one). the new K-12 Marketing Campaign from Apple would be a bunch of 3rd grade Candy Ravers hooked on Apple's subliminal drug...

 

[ITR 81]

The schools would choose the eMac's if the only difference was price -- for them the eMac is the better choice.

Get too expensive and the contracts are instantly handed to Dell, which would mean Apple made another horrible education choice.

And a measly $100 difference is all it would take to hand the market to Dell.

Apple cannot really give up on the $625 computer for education.

I doubt that..Apple knows most schools are now buying iBooks.

Hell our whole county just bought iBooks for all of it's public schools.
Most school here now want laptops so kids can take their work with them around the school house and etc..

 

[aswitcher]

PS: How how you liking Applenova? I am Undertaker there.

I am a newbie there so I'll have to get into the habbit of checking it out regularly.

 

[aswitcher]

Because no one is buying the current lineup.

Really? Whats your source(s)?

 

[t300]

Now although it could happen, and I hope it does, just where are people getting the idea that a new iSight is being released? And yeah, people have been studying the 4th gen iPod inside and out and there is nothing hidden in the hardware, that's for sure...Firmware, maybe. I can't imagine a bluetooth or wifi addon on either, now THAT would be tacky...WAAYYY tacky. Now if some type of video player with a 60gb hd and touchpad was released, I would totally beg people for money for one of those.