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Is this worth trading in my 7 Plus for? My mic and battery are going out. My only concern is the screen resolution. What say you MR? I’m in Portland Oregon if that matters . Have an Apple store downtown. Thanks and happy Holliday’s.
The battery can be replaced for cheap, until the end of December. As for the mic, if you need a new iPhone, you need a new iPhone.

However, while I bought an XR to replace my wife's 6s, it's more of a cross grade from my mint 7 Plus. The XR gains a much faster CPU and a larger screen, but with a narrower screen and small default text sizes, and no 2X zoom lens. Also, for some people (like myself), the lower pixel density of the XR is noticeable vs the 7 Plus.

Given that the 7 Plus performance with iOS 12.1 is still fast, and because the XS Max costs too damn much, I will just hold onto my 7 Plus for now.

The trade-in value from Apple for the 7 Plus doesn't seem great anyway.


So basically lower the price of the XS and that's it. No need for XR model.
The XR is the cheaper model of the XS Max, not the XS. The XS Max and XR show the exact same amount of information on-screen. Also, both have the Zoomed Display mode option. The XS shows much less information on-screen, and does not have the Zoomed Display mode option.
 
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I'm getting my 7 Plus' battery replaced next week. That will give the phone a refresh to last me at least until fall 2019, and maybe even fall 2020.

Maybe by that time, Apple will have a reasonably priced OLED model out.
 
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Apple is offering CAD$315 via Brightstar for my iPhone 7 Plus 128 GB silver in mint condition.

Orchard is offering CAD$428, but the last time I sold through to them, they actually paid me more than what their app quoted once they inspected the unit.

Orchard is selling the same model in "Like New" condition for CAD$730.
 
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I hate trade-in promotions. They do absolutely nothing for me, because I always like to hand down my previous phone to family or friends rather than trade it in.

I can see why Apple does this, though; handing my phone down means they make only one sale instead of possibly two. In fact, I wonder if this is one of the reasons Apple is selling fewer phones. Let's say there's one member of the family who is a major tech geek and likes to always have the latest phone every year. He or she keeps buying new phones and handing the previous phone down to family members. Right now the iPhone 6, 6s, 7 and 8 are extremely capable phones, so those family members just hang onto those and don't buy new phones.

At the end of the day, Apple makes fewer sales because the old phones end up having really long service lives.

Really long service lives, are You kidding me
My 70s radio still works
 
Apple listening to customer product wants has never happened before. The release of the iPod and iPhone easily come to mind.

Both panned. Hard. The iPhone would be a flop because it didn't have a mechanical keyboard. And all the high schoolers amazingly adept at triple-tapping mechanical keys at a lightning rate on Nokia/Ericsson/Alcatel/Motorola/Lucent/Sony phones to send texts to their friends would never go for a glass keyboard. Never.

Oh... And yeah, the iPad...it's just being a large iPhone. Who in the world asked for that?

So everyone that keeps asking for mass storage support, and mouse support on iPads?

And those of us wanting an updated iPhone se. or the headphone conversation, or the home button, or the in screen/on back fingerprint?

Plenty of high volume requests are ignored by them. When you abandon what users what and just steamroll them....that’s when users get turned off.
 
So everyone that keeps asking for mass storage support, and mouse support on iPads?

And those of us wanting an updated iPhone se. or the headphone conversation, or the home button, or the in screen/on back fingerprint?

Plenty of high volume requests are ignored by them. When you abandon what users what and just steamroll them....that’s when users get turned off.

Yes, you’re making my point. With respect to products, Apple has never asked people what they want - at least in a public manner. And likely aren’t about to start now.
 
"but but but apple spent all this money on R&D/marketing, they know EXACTLY what they're doing with their pricing" - dummys on here

the evidence is literally on apple's own website that their current products are overpriced by a couple hundred. with the internet around you can't fool people like you could back in the day. people are more knowledgable when it comes to things they wanna buy.

next year we'll see a different pricing structure -- COURAGE!
 
For what you get for the money, I’m shocked the iPhone XR isn’t selling even better. I can understand the XS models-incredibly expensive. I think it also can’t be understated that Apple has provided fast phones the last few years, really overkill, and has streamlined iOS to the point that people don’t feel the urgency to upgrade like they used to. Not to mention, smartphone tech has kind of peaked to where there really aren’t many new “wow” features. Other than the high cost of the new XS models, I don’t see other reasons for slow sales.
 
For what you get for the money, I’m shocked the iPhone XR isn’t selling even better. I can understand the XS models-incredibly expensive. I think it also can’t be understated that Apple has provided fast phones the last few years, really overkill, and has streamlined iOS to the point that people don’t feel the urgency to upgrade like they used to. Not to mention, smartphone tech has kind of peaked to where there really aren’t many new “wow” features. Other than the high cost of the new XS models, I don’t see other reasons for slow sales.

Exactly. Why update if I am just gonna be using the exact apps as before.
 
For what you get for the money, I’m shocked the iPhone XR isn’t selling even better. I can understand the XS models-incredibly expensive. I think it also can’t be understated that Apple has provided fast phones the last few years, really overkill, and has streamlined iOS to the point that people don’t feel the urgency to upgrade like they used to. Not to mention, smartphone tech has kind of peaked to where there really aren’t many new “wow” features. Other than the high cost of the new XS models, I don’t see other reasons for slow sales.

The iPhone is a luxury product and buying it is equal parts emotion and reason. The marketing brochures for the XR look good and the price is GREAT. When I saw it in person, I was underwhelmed by the colors and what the actual colors looked like. But most important, when I picked it up in the hand, it felt too big and too heavy. Add to that one would almost certainly need a case and you have something even bigger and heavier. For someone who can afford to pay $750 for a phone, it's not much of a stretch to get to $1000 and get the XS which feels much better in the hand (but still not that great). But then the XS has these weird colors; the gold is just flat out ugly (IMO, of course, there must exist folks that like it). What feels better than both of those is the iPhone 8 and it is much cheaper. That would be the one I buy if I had to buy a current model.

Exactly. Why update if I am just gonna be using the exact apps as before.

I would update my phone for speed (both processor & network) and camera specs if I actually liked how it felt in my hand.
 
The iPhone is a luxury product and buying it is equal parts emotion and reason. The marketing brochures for the XR look good and the price is GREAT. When I saw it in person, I was underwhelmed by the colors and what the actual colors looked like. But most important, when I picked it up in the hand, it felt too big and too heavy. Add to that one would almost certainly need a case and you have something even bigger and heavier. For someone who can afford to pay $750 for a phone, it's not much of a stretch to get to $1000 and get the XS which feels much better in the hand (but still not that great). But then the XS has these weird colors; the gold is just flat out ugly (IMO, of course, there must exist folks that like it). What feels better than both of those is the iPhone 8 and it is much cheaper. That would be the one I buy if I had to buy a current model.



I would update my phone for speed (both processor & network) and camera specs if I actually liked how it felt in my hand.
I will say, coming from an iPhone 7 Plus that I had for 2 years, there isn’t a major difference in speed, but the XR is definitely snappier. The camera is a major upgrade, even without the dual lens, and the gesture based UI, while not a whole lot different does make it feel like you are using a new product. These are small differences overall tho. I only really upgraded to reward myself for a 4.0 semester. (I’m a non-traditional student who went back to medical school). At this point the only way I would upgrade my XR is if Apple adds back Touch ID which they are now rumored to be doing. Multiple sources, often correct, are claiming Apple may be adding back Touch ID that will be onscreen and work with Face ID.
 
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"but but but apple spent all this money on R&D/marketing, they know EXACTLY what they're doing with their pricing" - dummys on here

the evidence is literally on apple's own website that their current products are overpriced by a couple hundred. with the internet around you can't fool people like you could back in the day. people are more knowledgable when it comes to things they wanna buy.

next year we'll see a different pricing structure -- COURAGE!
So following the logic presented above regarding overpriced...any manufacturer that offers any incentives, rebates, givebacks or some type of quid-pro-quo the manufacturer is admitting their products are overpriced by the amount of the givebacks.

Samsung is/was giving away tv, if you bought the note 9, must be the note 9 is overpriced by the amount the tv would have sold for.
 
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I have the iPhone X so not worth trading in unless they give a generous trade in.
Even then, what kind of trade in would possibly make sense to replace with the XS? I would never go from a X to a XR. I only did the XR from my 7 Plus because it was significantly less expensive (for what amounts to 95% of the experience of the XS and XS Max) to buy the 128GB XR vs doing the 256GB XS ($350 less to be exact). I give up 3D Touch, zoom lens, and an OLED display. I gain much better battery life and larger display, oh, and $350 in my wallet. The XS and XS Max are simply priced out of the market. I bet Apple lowers the price next year. Probably not much, but I bet the XS replacement starts at $899 and the Max at $999. While not cheap, psychologically it’s under $1000 in people’s minds. Otherwise, Apple simply cannot expect many people to buy $1000-$1450 phones every year. There’s not enough change and they’re WAY too expensive to replace yearly.
 
I will say, coming from an iPhone 7 Plus that I had for 2 years, there isn’t a major difference in speed, but the XR is definitely snappier. The camera is a major upgrade, even without the dual lens, and the gesture based UI, while not a whole lot different does make it feel like you are using a new product. These are small differences overall tho. I only really upgraded to reward myself for a 4.0 semester. (I’m a non-traditional student who went back to medical school). At this point the only way I would upgrade my XR is if Apple adds back Touch ID which they are now rumored to be doing. Multiple sources, often correct, are claiming Apple may be adding back Touch ID that will be onscreen and work with Face ID.
Good job on the 4.0, I missed 4.0 by .01.

I would be surprised if Apple adds back touch id, apple doesn't usually back-track. But one never knows.

I spent much hours in the apple store pitting the xr against the xs against the max. Ultimately I wanted the biggest screen possible and don't regret it. I was worried about headaches from pwm. They haven't materialized, yet.
 
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Good job on the 4.0, I missed 4.0 by .01.

I would be surprised if Apple adds back touch id, apple doesn't usually back-track. But one never knows.

I spent much hours in the apple store pitting the xr against the xs against the max. Ultimately I wanted the biggest screen possible and don't regret it. I was worried about headaches from pwm. They haven't materialized, yet.
Thank you! If I was done with school, I’m sure I would’ve no doubt gone with the Max. The screen is impressive and I do miss 3D Touch, but I couldn’t justify $450 more right now.
 
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No thx, i will still rather keep my 6s Plus. I don't know, i find the XR really ugly, there are better looking and cheaper phones out there, there is no reason to buy this. If they lowered the price of the XS, well, then maybe, but not spending 1k on it.
 
I don’t see what’s wrong with this. People are going to be trading their older phones anyways, so if Apple offers better rates, how is this a bad thing?

On one hand, Apple gets to sell more iphones, while also reducing the number of iphone 6 and 6s in circulation (which also helps cut down on their support costs).

People really have to learn to start beyond this whole “Apple is doomed” narrative. It’s seriously not conducive to discussions at all, especially when people automatically assume the worst of Apple and utterly refuse to consider alternative possibilities.
 
Few reasons:

Every family has limited budget for IT/Tech spending, it is getting tougher swallow the prices of Mac, iPhone and iPad if you have all of them in your family. (and there is that Apple Watch, HomePad, Apple Pencil, Airpods)

* still low storage on several of the Macs making it to expensive (that extra money you spend on Mac has to come from somewhere else iPhone :) ) - apple needs to reestablish the Macbook line/prices, it is very expensive on the one hand and confusing on the other hand.
* Smartphone technologies are in the mature curve, there has to be compelling to reason to upgrade
* iOS apps are mature, hardware (CPU) is very good, So older iPhones are still very good
* less subsidy from the ATT/Verizon/Sprint carriers they are also felling the pinch of pricey smartphones

we will see quarterly results how much of decline in revenue; relatively apple still may get the revenues (it just that numbers might be disappointing). Even though iPad sales numbers have came down, but they are still selling ton of them. Eventually it will happen to iPhone ...
 
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Perfect timing, just bought the XS to replace a 6 and 6s and used Apple trade-in on Thursday before this was announced for the UK :(
 
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