Sure, but if you’re arguing for the security of the IAP system, it kinda kills your argument to flip and tell them to make web apps instead. That’s my point. I think the two ideas are at odds.
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Apple Fined Another 5 Million Euros by Dutch Competition Regulator Over Dating App Payment Requirements
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How old are you? Did you use peecees before 2010? I remember. It sucked. More because of the antivirus than the malware.
I am indirectly paying Apple for a service. I know that everything I purchased through the App Store, payments are safe. To my knowledge, there have been no publicized breaches of the App Store payment ecosystem.
Do you expect the average consumer to do penetration testing of the payment processor? Should I need to familiarize myself with the refund policies of 20 different App Stores?
Their phones, their right to break it.
I like how you can’t even point to the specific part of the developer agreement that you’re referring to. The developer agreement doesn’t bind Apple to a particular method of covering their costs, anyway. Silly argument.Only thing that matters is what they actually on paper
Agreements and Guidelines - Support - Apple Developer
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Wouldn't it be great if countries protected the people from not only corporate overreach but also government overreach? Apple, do what they say or stop selling your products there. You have done worst things for a buck in China.
The whole premise of this action is suspicious from the get go. You have a dutch agency that carefully crafts a order within their laws to force Apple to give special privileges for dating apps payments when bought through the App Store instead of something like iDeal. The only recourse until this gets argued to a higher authority is ignore the ACM fines.
Here's a couple of interesting posts from a earlier article.
In Comparison the App Store allows subscriptions to be cancelled through the App Store without closing the account. Customers can request a refunds for a App Store purchase. Seems like the ACM is just trying to close a loop hole in their own payment scheme.
Here's a couple of interesting posts from a earlier article.
In Comparison the App Store allows subscriptions to be cancelled through the App Store without closing the account. Customers can request a refunds for a App Store purchase. Seems like the ACM is just trying to close a loop hole in their own payment scheme.
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🤣 1979 - Generation non-savegame, it was the best geek computer time i ever had, specially in IRC.
Sideloading means apple can no longer protect users from nefarious actors. All Apps would have to be allowed without their input and from any source, even all the fake App Stores that look real that will definitely show up.
Users are also exposed to fraud from legitimate companies that don’t have the know how or resources to mitigate cyber threats. Apple has 20 Million active developers as of today. If just 1% of them included payment links and were either bad actors or just incompetent, that’s 200,000 dangerous links that wouldn’t have been a problem before. And a problem I didn’t ask for when I spent thousands of dollars for devices that I knew were safer than Android.
Please explain how 3 billionaire competitor companies can force Apple to strip the safety from my purchases.
Two of which the Chinese company Tencent owns a significant share of.
And what Apple does is help developers navigate the simplest things like how to pay taxes in each of those jurisdictions. From what I have read on other threads, there are services out there that do that as well. That is just one of the services you get for that 27%.
"China" is something Apple really would rather we not think about, let alone talk about.
Not only are they essential to make everything for low wages (relatively speaking), but it's also a market they basically have to be in now (and forever) given its size and growth.
Apple should spell it all out and put numbers/values on everything
(they won't - they don't want to - they are making BANK off the current "arrangement")
The current system exists mainly because most people/companies HATE being nickel and dime’d. Using simple arithmetic, one can predict in a given year how much is paid to Apple. If an app becomes wildly successful, it’s still a simple function, no hidden “overage fees” to contend with, no massive increases in what you pay for support, just one well publicized additional fee if you go over $1 million a year.
Then again, that’s just the vast majority of people/companies. There will always be people/companies doing business with Apple (and a HUGE number of folks that are NOT doing business with Apple) that won’t like it.
You're confused about the definitions and actual risks here.
I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude.
It'd be best if you read some of the existing thread posts to understand more definitionally what are actually really the issues and concerns at hand here.
It's not security - it's revenue lock down for Apple.
🥱 Not again these “security through obscurity” arguments. Apple does not protect, they gatekeep solely for profit purposes.
These sorts of rules will only incentivize more closed, locked down products. It's clear that Steve was right in the beginning. The App Store was profitable for many years, but those days are coming to a close. It's going to be a race to the bottom from here, and Apple doesn't play that game. Fortunately for Apple, they still have plenty of options that will provide a good revenue stream. Maybe not as lucrative as the current system, but should be enough until the next big thing.
No, BUT there are MORE apps and website scams in action today outside the App Store. Wanting a change to Apple’s deployment/installation rules is essentially a desire to have these malicious apps and scams available on iOS as soon as possible to affect as many iOS users as possible. Which, I’ll admit, is certainly an opinion.
Oops sorry me wrong link here you have it easy and clear
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An just for 99/year
Really what this situation calls for is the usual Apple fragmentation
We obviously need developer "tiers"
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We obviously need developer "tiers"
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Yeah, but you are shifting the burden of the security to the web developer. True apple won’t receive any IAP, but the. It’s no longer an app on the App Store.