Apple Has Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro Than Any Previous Generation

pika2000 said:
Blind sheep or not, it is practically the goal of any companies out there making consumer products, to have loyal fans.
And if you think Apple fans are bad, you have not seen Sony fans.
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Tim, Ive and Phil don't want me as a customer any more(See my sig). Which is fine, I can still survive on my existing MBP. But I also advise an extended family. And my advice to them is to look elsewhere now. That is about 4 families outfitted with Macs that are due for a refresh in the next year or two or three. So Apple is not only losing my sale, they are losing a couple families worth of sales.

But Phil's right - Courage!!!

It takes Courage to turn their backs on those who carried Apple when it was down in the dumps.
 
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bergmann.flb said:
you are trying to convince yourself that the air is better than the pro, because you cant afford it. you know, there are people who are actual professionals and they get their hardware a) from their employer or b) they are freelancers/own company. in both cases a 3k macbook pays for itself after a month max.
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The only professionals going for a $3k+ Macbook Pro of this generation are those whose system is already embedded in the Apple ecosystem so it would be difficult/costly/impossible to extract themselves.

No business starting today would go that route, it's impossible to make a cost defence.
 
bergmann.flb said:
you are trying to convince yourself that the air is better than the pro, because you cant afford it. you know, there are people who are actual professionals and they get their hardware a) from their employer or b) they are freelancers/own company. in both cases a 3k macbook pays for itself after a month max.
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I am not trying to convince anyone to do anything.

I use the Air and it is great - hopefully they will not discontinue it like they did with the 4 core mini
 
Pootmatoot said:
The only professionals going for a $3k+ Macbook Pro of this generation are those whose system is already embedded in the Apple ecosystem so it would be difficult/costly/impossible to extract themselves.

No business starting today would go that route, it's impossible to make a cost defence.
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what business are you refering to? im not talking about "donnys donutshop" im talking about businesses who actually need computers to do their work. a 3k computer is not really super expensive for an actual business/startup.
 
amegicfox said:
so according to you, poor people don't deserve to use Apple laptops - what a good person you are!
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In the economic systems that most of us live in: you do not "deserve" to use commodities.
You have "rights" (legal, social, or ethical principles) but owning and using an apple laptop is not a right, and you only "deserve" to use it - if you buy it or someone buys it for you.
How would you reason that everybody "deserves" to use a luxury device?
 
bergmann.flb said:
what business are you refering to? im not talking about "donnys donutshop" im talking about businesses who actually need computers to do their work. a 3k computer is not really super expensive for an actual business/startup.
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Of course it isn't, but they want actual pro machines: these aren't anything like that. They get mobile workstations with Xeon processors and NVIDIA Quadro, like the ThinkPad P70.

These new MacBook Pros are designed for bloggers in cafes (who don't mind the new awful keyboard experience).

Zero real workplace machines come with soldered-on anything.
 
pbasmadj said:
This.

Coming from an Air to the new pro without touchbar, it is not even a quesiton. The Air is AWFUL in comparison. Once you see the new screen, you can't unsee it. In a good way. Speakers, design, screen, keyboard, everything. Just stunning.
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only the retina screen is better on the macbook pro and I can live with that
everything else on the new macbook pro sucks

what does the Mac Book Air has that yours doesn't:

- Magsafe
- SD card slot
- 2 x USB 3 port
- Thunderbolt port
- 12 hour battery
- Apple logo lit
- AMAZING keyboard
- Chime sound
- less weight

This is why the Air is a much better buy at 50% less of the cost

i can't believe you described the 'butterfly' keyboard as an improvement.
It's like typing on a wood table!
 
I do feel that Apple could've or even should've had an interim model a year ago when everyone was expecting new MBPs (is it finally time to ditch the r?). They could have replaced Thunderbolt and HDMI with USB-C in that model and updated the screen to make it thinner (ditch the glow), maybe even thin the height a bit (the distance it bulges below the edge).

But that would've been seen as a bit boring or predictable and they don't want to spend the resources to redesign cases very often. Everything Apple does has to be "revolutionary". This is a big part of the reason we had to wait so long. All the pieces had to be in place to launch this "everything updated", "revolutionary" new model. They therefore have to build in planned updates into any new product. A max of 16 GB RAM was definitely one of those things they held back to put in the next version.

Because other companies are more content with gradual iteration they can update more often. Apple won't do that for its Macs so expect this design to last for at least the next 5 years. They left themselves room to thin it a bit but they won't do much else and eventually you won't be able to thin it past the size of USB-C so the laptop is approaching an end-game in terms of design. It'll probably get OLED eventually if they can make it outperform their outstanding new LCDs.

It's going to be hard to maintain this constant vibe of "groundbreaking" as phones and laptops reach maturity.

I can see a lot of potential for the iMac still however. It should get a substantial slimming in the next version. Despite its razor-thin edge it still has a big fat chin and bulging behind.
 
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Beck Show said:
People love their Macs. In my opinion, which I'm sure is shared by millions, nobody makes a better computer than Apple. That is exactly why they are willing to pay that much.
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This more an article of faith than an article of raw fact in 2016.

I'd agree with you 2006-2014.
 
That's what happens when MacOS users are locked into one hardware vendor. You have to buy a crippled product with 16GB RAM.
 
Wiencon said:
This is actually sad, why are people willing to pay so much just to get screwed more every time new product launches
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That's exactly why I sold my Series 1 Apple Watch and will NEVER return to an Apple wearable as long as I have breath.
 
My $200 worth of dongles just arrived. Too bad I already cancelled the computer part of the order. Free return shipping? Click.

My old boss just bought a surface. The new Microsoft surface workstations are at Adobe Maxx and gorgeous - the hit of the event.

The price increase was a slap in the face, and completely unjustified by the capabilities of the machine.

I guess that's 'bold risk' that Phil's talking about.

The net is that we're now seeing what Jony Ive does when unrestrained by Steve - or apparently anyone else. He's as bad as fashion designers - both want anorexic models, instead of real-world forms.
 
jmh600cbr said:
trust me, the interviewer is told what questions he is allowed to ask.
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Or he is smart enough to know that any questions about future releases will get just prompt the boilerplate "we have the most exciting pipeline ever" response. It's futile and every journalist worth their salt would know this.
 
Impatientmac said:
I think asking why you can't connect the iPhone to your Mac is a dumb question but this is an even dumber response. "You don't have to buy a dongle only a less useful equally priced cable"
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USB-C is the future, how is that a less useful cable? I'm pretty sure you are going to need a few going forward.
 
cardfan said:
Good luck keeping track of those cables. Hmm..this is USB-A. This one is USB-c. This is a USB-c to lightning. This one is USB-a to lightning. Here's the SD usb-a adapter. I'm gonna need different colors and labels for these. They all kind of look alike when thrown into a bag.
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How is this any different to the last 25 years of cables? This is exactly the problem USB-C aims to solve: One cable, one connector, for everything.
 
ErikGrim said:
USB-C is the future, how is that a less useful cable? I'm pretty sure you are going to need a few going forward.
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The transition period is going to be ugly. External batteries, car cigarette power adapters, car radios, etc all aren't USB-C yet. It means carrying dongles or multiple cables. I get that. At least they put in four ports.

The big problem is that there are very few adapters that work reliably, and apple didn't release their own.

The furor is three things compounded:

1) Lousy specs
2) Port changes
3) Price increase

Take any one of the three away, and it's a different story. The three together have hit critical mass.
 
Schiller said more ordered online than before, but he didn't say more ordered overall than before. Brick and mortar sales have tanked. Overall, I'd expect sales to be worse than ever before due to Apple's anti-user changes.
 
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