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Mr. Samsung to engineer: Get me a copy of that iPhone lightning port and put it on the new Samsung.
Engineer: But they'll sue us, Sir.
Mr. Samsung: Ah BS, they won't. Just give it another name, like the Fire port. And ask Legal if we can use that fire name.

Later that day at the keynote:
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That's the point Consuer Reports is making, it should be a an official product safety recall, but Samsung us still resisting it.

The only reason Samsung is resisting going through the CPSC in the US because if they did all Note 7 owners would be in limbo for months. Once the feds take over a recall the whole thing has to be researched and then ran through an entire bureaucracy to come up with a solution. Likely Samsung would be forced to recall and then give loaner phones while the feds try to figure out what to do.

Generally the CPSC gets involved is when a company refuses a recall and the feds have to force their hand. I don't blame Samsung at all for trying to handle this themselves and as a Note 7 owner I am glad they are because I'd hate to be in limbo for months over it.
 
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Well Apple certainly knows all about that when rushing out software updates ONLY to withdraw them within hours, after bricking iPhones and iPads ... but who's counting, huh?
Thanks for playing, but a rare update that causes problems is absolutely nothing compared to phones that could cause you serious physical harm. You can reissue an update that unbricks a phone, you can't undo physical injuries. A hardware recall is much more serious than a software recall.

I mean, I get it... Apple sucks and they're the worst thing to ever happen to humanity. But maybe it's possible, just this one time, to not reflexively crap all over Apple just because one of their competitors had a legitimate issue?
 
Thanks for playing, but a rare update that causes problems is absolutely nothing compared to phones that could cause you serious physical harm. You can reissue an update that unbricks a phone, you can't undo physical injuries. A hardware recall is much more serious than a software recall.

I mean, I get it... Apple sucks and they're the worst thing to ever happen to humanity. But maybe it's possible, just this one time, to not reflexively crap all over Apple just because one of their competitors had a legitimate issue?

It's just the state of mobile industry. I really do think it's not quite matured. Automotive industry was very sue happy and polarizing back in the early years of cars and when it started really booming and competition became cut throat. Their fans were very "pick a side and go to war"

Apple made the smart phone popular, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're the best or the worst. They're just a player in the game. Android/Google/Samsung and friends are other players. Android based phones vs Android phones.

Everyone is out to fight one another. It's kind of silly when you sit down and think about it. Logical fallacies, facts, and straight up fanboy lies are all over the place.
 
It's just the state of mobile industry. I really do think it's not quite matured. Automotive industry was very sue happy and polarizing back in the early years of cars and when it started really booming and competition became cut throat. Their fans were very "pick a side and go to war"

Apple made the smart phone popular, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're the best or the worst. They're just a player in the game. Android/Google/Samsung and friends are other players. Android based phones vs Android phones.

Everyone is out to fight one another. It's kind of silly when you sit down and think about it. Logical fallacies, facts, and straight up fanboy lies are all over the place.
I completely agree. It's an industry that hasn't fully matured, but has reached a point where its products are almost commodities. Although I prefer the iPhone, you could hand me any current smartphone and I'd be happy with it. Fanboy wars, however, are stuck in the past when there were significant differences in smartphones.
 
I completely agree. It's an industry that hasn't fully matured, but has reached a point where its products are almost commodities. Although I prefer the iPhone, you could hand me any current smartphone and I'd be happy with it. Fanboy wars, however, are stuck in the past when there were significant differences in smartphones.

Oh yeah and will find any small aspect about the opposing or favoring side and make it a bigger deal than it is.

Let's face it Android has flaws, same with iOS, but they also have many perks that make their users happy. I just had a talk about Samsung to one of my co-workers on why I think Nexus is better than Samsung and he disagrees. He likes what Samsung offers and doesn't mind the stutter or occasional lag and the update situation [because the perks outweigh it's shortcomings for him personally]. I personally dislike it which is why I often gravitate to Nexus (Pixel as it is now known) and iPhone. But like you said if I had a Samsung I could find happiness in it. My preference is pure and pure; Android by Google, and iOS by Apple. Which is why I'm hesitant with Apple CarPlay in an aftermarket head unit. But I want it so... may have to bite the bullet. My car's almost paid off and no car payment sounds fantastic.
 
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Mine didn't bend. Even if it did, my house wouldn't be at risk of burning down, or my family's lives wouldn't be endangered. But of course, you're right; bending phones and exploding phones carry the same risks. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Instead of spending time going nuts with emoji, you should have spent more time trying to understand the quote you read. In your haste to live up to your nom de guerre, you completely missed the point of the post you're quoting. It wasn't a knock on Apple, or Samsung for that matter. It was a commentary about the viral effect of news about batteries and bends, when the actual occurrences were few in number.

Anywho, you can go back to fighting imaginary slights against Apple.:rolleyes:
 
From a business aspect of this I do think it's wise for Apple to up manufacturing for the 7 or 6SE because this will surely make Android as a whole look bad regardless of how big or small the actual issue is.
 
Ho ho ho... and the naysayers claimed the iPhone 7 won't sell that much.

I never thought I'd see the day when "this phone won't explode in your hand" was the main sales feature.
That's if you believe what Apple said about increasing order volumes. If it is true, then it reveals that they have some unused manufacturing capacity that they aren't currently utilizing... which lends credibility to those who claim that Apple artificially constricts inventory supply to give the impression of high demand.

I never bought the argument that Apple did that, but if they can increase production leading up to the launch, then there might be something to it.

I think this latest statement by Apple was nothing more significant than a public dig at Samsung's issues.
 
Poor guys mentioned that it does have a headphone jack sarcastically, Time for Apple to say that they're sorry and that their new iPhone doesn't have the feature of blowing up and is not as hot as the Note. Literally.
 
But...but...but...how is this even possible?

All the experts here at MR claim that the iPhone 7 is going to flop. Stupid Apple ordering more parts. They should read these forums to get advice on how to run their company.
 
Karma is a bitch.
Lol, I owned a Note 7 and just returned it to AT&T for a brand new Galaxy S7 "loaner" until the new Note7's are in. I will probably trade my 6SPlus in for the S7 IF all goes well with it during this interim period with it. But I found your post quite funny and well done. I loathe cheap shots and thought Samsung sucked for taking them. They are under new leadership now that seems to be taking them in a more honorable direction...one would hope. Meanwhile I hope Apple takes the high ground and doesn't take a cheap shot at Samsung.

Samsung's equivalent of iPhone Touch disease is not actually the exploding Note 7 but the leaky S7 Active scandal. They did fix the leaks and they will honor water damage warranties now that Consumer Reports called them out on it. But the fact remains that phone is not as rugged as it should be. It was not engineered well, just as the iPhone 6 was not engineered well.

If the Note7 problem was isolated to just faulty batteries that could happen to any manufacturer. Only Samsung knows if it went further than that. In the absence of any other evidence, my experience of the Note 7 was that it was a well built beautiful phone that was a joy to use and I eagerly await its return.
 
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Exactly, specially how Samsung only shipped 2M Note7, and less than half than that were sold. No one cares about the Note or about the pen.

There's nothing here to justify the increase in orders from Apple.

Bingo. The Note 7 is supposed to be the best phone ever made, according to many reviews and all the members here at MR who bought one. Yet they hardly sold any of them. Apple will sell 5X as many iPhone 7s in the first weekend as Samsung will Note 7s in the first month.
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People who want an note 7 , will get a replacement , people who want an iPhone will get an iPhone.

The only other twist will be when the general public learns the iPhone 7 is a 6SS, I suspect more might be pushed towards a note 7, which is actually new, for those undecided.

If I wanted a note 7, the battery issue is a non event , replacement will be fine. Same happened with the iPhone 4, design flaw, never fixed , but I wanted an iPhone .

Nobody wants a Note 7. Didn't you see the absolutely horrible figures for sales/production?
 
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Some guy on Reddit "claims" to know some details about the 7. The one we don't know about; no gap between the volume buttons anymore. Of course there are no pictures so this is probably fake but I'm just putting it out there.
 
The only reason Samsung is resisting going through the CPSC in the US because if they did all Note 7 owners would be in limbo for months. Once the feds take over a recall the whole thing has to be researched and then ran through an entire bureaucracy to come up with a solution. Likely Samsung would be forced to recall and then give loaner phones while the feds try to figure out what to do.

Generally the CPSC gets involved is when a company refuses a recall and the feds have to force their hand. I don't blame Samsung at all for trying to handle this themselves and as a Note 7 owner I am glad they are because I'd hate to be in limbo for months over it.


Partially correct. Samsung is worried about much more than keeping customers in limbo. An official recall would have make it illegal to sell or resell current model, and have other financial and reputation impacts.

An official recall wouldn't necessarily take months, but would have significant consumer and safety benefits, especially with such a major safety issue.

Encourage all to read and share the following:

http://www.consumerreports.org/smar...amsung-should-officially-recall-galaxy-note7/
 
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