I returned mine because of the display quality in general. I cast my vote with my dollars.
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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over 'Jelly Scrolling' on iPad Mini
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So count you in on supporting bad technology from the top tech company? Got it.
Do you hear complaints of "jelly scrolling" from every other tablet user? Every other iPad user?
I will never understand some folks wanting to rush and defend every angle from the perspective of a 2 Trillion dollar megacorp.
They don't need your help or defense and it's just a matter of time before they do something that's objectively not in your interest (if they haven't already).
It's time wasted to vigorously defend "MegaCorp"
They aren't a defenseless child, nor are they usually "your friend"
They don't need your help or defense and it's just a matter of time before they do something that's objectively not in your interest (if they haven't already).
It's time wasted to vigorously defend "MegaCorp"
They aren't a defenseless child, nor are they usually "your friend"
Screen is total crap compared to basically every other thing Apple sells with a screen.
That is the true, actual, "offense" here for sure.
There was no general distributed statement by Apple that this issue could be improved/changed by software.
How many people want to make money by just doing nonsense lawsuits, Western world is terribly litigious!
Trivial info, in some instances, at least here in Germany, you do.
Had legal trouble with a relative, he “wanted” to go to court, but didn’t ultimately because he knew he’d lose and have to pay for all of it. Good times.
Always confuses me that someone would put a "disagree" on a post like this. What exactly are you disagreeing with?
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Remember the TI DLP projectors and rainbows with the rotating color wheel in many RPD's.
Who can see the DLP Rainbow Effect?
The Rainbow effect affects only a small portion of projector viewers. However, for this lot, it can be particularly troublesome.
For the highly susceptible, the rainbow effect is an absolute deal breaker, and their only option is getting a projector that works around this problem. Others are mildly susceptible, and only notice the light strobes when they fixate on them.
Fortunately, a lot of viewers do not experience the effect at all. However, even if you fall into this category, it is important to note that the effect will be noticed by a percentage of your co-workers and family.
How to Minimize the DLP Rainbow Effect
People who are only mildly susceptible to the DLP rainbow effect can learn to live with it. With practice, they can even stop noticing altogether. In such cases, the user only sees the effect when doing rigorous head movements. Furthermore, the effect is only noticeable when a prominent white object shows up against a darker background.
This is a example of how a company explains the limitations of its usage, knowing that some consumers can't use the product. Any good company will accept returns beyond the usual return period for a consumer finding themselves as highly susceptible. I seen no evidence that Apple refused returns.
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There seem to be two debates going on in these comments...
Jelly scrolling absolutely exists. I noticed it in 10 seconds in the Apple Store, and that's coming from someone who can barely tell the difference between 60 Hz and ProMotion. It's pretty bad.
But does this lawsuit have any legal (or moral) basis? There's a 14 day return window for a reason. It's not a hardware failure that shows up after some time passes; it's a design flaw that is apparent immediately.
I don't have any stake in this but it seems like it'll be a tough case to argue. A subpar product isn't the same as being scammed or misled.
Jelly scrolling absolutely exists. I noticed it in 10 seconds in the Apple Store, and that's coming from someone who can barely tell the difference between 60 Hz and ProMotion. It's pretty bad.
But does this lawsuit have any legal (or moral) basis? There's a 14 day return window for a reason. It's not a hardware failure that shows up after some time passes; it's a design flaw that is apparent immediately.
I don't have any stake in this but it seems like it'll be a tough case to argue. A subpar product isn't the same as being scammed or misled.
If you don't notice a lemon defect during the 14 day return period then you have to live with it without recourse? Good thing it doesn't apply to cars with Lemon Law.
Yeah me neither, I was even looking for it and don't see it at all.
I can see it on mine and I think it’s fairly noticeable but I can’t read moving text at the speed I need to be scrolling at to see it, so it doesn’t really matter to me as long as it’s fine when it’s still
This thread should come with a warning:
If you don't see it, don't look for it!
Once seen, cannot be unseen. Enjoy your product.
I see your point, but I'd argue this is different -- it's not a delayed hardware failure but an immediately visible design flaw. Apple should absolutely be punished for reliability issues. I'm still angry they didn't cover the iPhone 7 audio IC problems or 2017 MacBook Pro flexgate.
Going with your analogy, this isn't a lemon, just an ugly car.
By all means good luck to the lawsuit, I just doubt it'll succeed.
Would it surprise you that I have and it is easily unseen and ignored.
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Are you sure?
We have lots of people on MR claim they didn't notice until "later on" (timelines vary) -- certainly plenty well outside a 14 day return window.
If we are going down any "lemon law" comparisons, it might behoove Apple to take back any Mini 6's that folks aren't happy with (if they cite this specific issue) -- no matter the time of purchase.
Given their markup and refurb store and how many folks claim to "not care about this", it wouldn't surprise me if Apple could take them back from folks who don't like it and refurb/resell them and really minimize the "hit"
Lots of assumptions in there of course..
Given their markup and refurb store and how many folks claim to "not care about this", it wouldn't surprise me if Apple could take them back from folks who don't like it and refurb/resell them and really minimize the "hit"
Lots of assumptions in there of course..
Hence why I said you can instantly notice the jelly effect, it's your loss if you decide to live with it then don't like it just to try and sue Apple. You get what 3 months in the US is it? More then long enough.