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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over Large iOS 8 Storage Space
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Then you won't be able to update the OS because it became too big for some reason. Or you leave ample of free space for OS updates and then people will complain that they can't use that free space for media or apps.
16 GB really is a stretch these days, even without big apps, no videos and only a bunch of podcasts and music. I went for the 5S 32GB when the iPhone 6 came out because I like how it felt in my hands better and it was much cheaper than the iPhone 6 64GB.
I could understand seeing over battery life if it's impossible to achieve the advertised stand-by time, i.e. when you don't wake it from sleep to check the time even. But those things have as much hardware storage as advertised and of course the OS needs some space.
Ridiculous like this one....
I don't think they obtained anything out of that lawsuit.
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In every single post you are capable to put Apple on a bad light
Now the comparison with organized crime and government (in a negative attitude)......
iOS8 is a space hog, as I recall it took up 8-9GB on my new iPhone 6+. As for the people complaining though, if you really need the space for a wedding or child's recital, you check beforehand, idiot.
Calling it a 12GB device would be dishonest because the actual flash storage inside has a capacity of 16GB.
Also, Apple notifies the consumer.
Also, Apple notifies the consumer.
What action? Providing you with an OS? Perhaps you would be better served if you were provided with blank hardware and required to write your own OS. Not me.
it would probably cost them 5 cents to upgrade to 32gb as a base model. I honestly wouldn't have purchased the 64gb if it was available and apple will NEVER sacrifice their margins, hence why this still hasn't happened.
I hope you know that you will never get the advertised mileage in a real life scenario... Those advertised figures are from ideal track test situations...
Actually, I regularly exceed the epa sticker for mileage on my car. And that is with the car being 9 years old and in factory unmodified condition.
It all depends on how you drive. But I average 5 to 10 mpg better than factory sticker for the best mpg.
That's in mixed driving. If I only drive highways for a tank, I can exceed it by 20 mpg.
Ah -- there's your problem. A 'GB' is not (and never has been) what many people think it is when it comes to storage.
In the world of physical storage devices a GB is:
* 1000 MB
* 1000000 KB
* 1000000000 B
But in the world of computer software (including disk formats), a 'GB' is:
* 1024 MB
* 1048576 KB
* 1073741824 B
So, a completely fresh, clean '1 GB' storage device is actually physically capable of storing 0.931 GB. You're 'losing' almost a tenth of its capacity just from the unit conversion.
Of course, the difference increases as the labelled storage amount also increases.
From the unit conversion alone, a '16GB' device can only ever store 14.901 GB. That's before it's even formatted (which adds some minor overhead).
It's been like this forever. It wasn't so bad when hard drives were only 40MB in size, of course. Now we've got 128GB in our phones and 4TB on our desktops, it's really becoming a problem.
Historically, this boils down to the fact that the IT world abused the Kilo, Mega, Giga (etc) prefixes. These strictly mean increases in powers of ten. But computers are binary (base-two). A new prefix was agreed, meaning in my second set of numbers above, the abbreviations actually should be GiB, MiB and KiB (Gibibyte, Mebibyte and Kibibyte).
OS X actually reports storage sizes in the new units, hence a 16GB flash drive shows as 16GB in OS X (i.e. 16 GiB) instead of 14.9GB. Of course, the drive itself doesn't magically gain any space
EDIT: just saw this very point made further up the thread. Never mind! Still, I wonder why iOS still displays GiB instead of GB in its UI?
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I can't believe Apple made the call to keep 16GB as baseline.
While your margin is higher the implications for user experience seem much more risky.
Example: no room to update IOS8 or IOS9 - fragmentation occurs. That's a major reason IOS7->8 didn't go smoothly.
Unless Ios9 is a smaller update fragmentation will be a problem for years to come from this decision.
It must of been a tough call to decide between 100 dollar margins on upgrades and potentially fragment and move people to cheaper higher space android alternatives.
While your margin is higher the implications for user experience seem much more risky.
Example: no room to update IOS8 or IOS9 - fragmentation occurs. That's a major reason IOS7->8 didn't go smoothly.
Unless Ios9 is a smaller update fragmentation will be a problem for years to come from this decision.
It must of been a tough call to decide between 100 dollar margins on upgrades and potentially fragment and move people to cheaper higher space android alternatives.
It's absolutely absurd that Apple is still selling 16GB devices, which they moved the base model to in 2011. It's now 2015. Believe it or not, they're still selling 8GB iPhone 5C's.
Seriously Apple, it costs very very little to increase storage to a 32GB base model, but would greatly increase customer satisfaction with the products. The cost-to-benefit ratio would be in Apple's favor. Because even if it decreases the number of 64/128GB phones sold, in the long run it will lead to much happier customers, which will increase sales down the road. Apple cannot afford to anger millions of people when they continually struggle to free up storage on their phone. Because when these people upgrade, they will not have pleasant memories from using their current phone, and they'll ditch iOS completely.
MORE than half the time one of my friends tries to upgrade to iOS 8 they get the message that they don't have enough space to do so. That's ridiculous.
It's 2015, it's time to move the base model to 32GB. Hell, in all honestly, 2013 was the year, it's truly ridiculous that Apple is selling a $750 phone with a measly 16GB of non-expandable storage.
Seriously Apple, it costs very very little to increase storage to a 32GB base model, but would greatly increase customer satisfaction with the products. The cost-to-benefit ratio would be in Apple's favor. Because even if it decreases the number of 64/128GB phones sold, in the long run it will lead to much happier customers, which will increase sales down the road. Apple cannot afford to anger millions of people when they continually struggle to free up storage on their phone. Because when these people upgrade, they will not have pleasant memories from using their current phone, and they'll ditch iOS completely.
MORE than half the time one of my friends tries to upgrade to iOS 8 they get the message that they don't have enough space to do so. That's ridiculous.
It's 2015, it's time to move the base model to 32GB. Hell, in all honestly, 2013 was the year, it's truly ridiculous that Apple is selling a $750 phone with a measly 16GB of non-expandable storage.
In order to do that they would have to use a 32GB to claim a lower number (32 -minus OS, plus anticipated upgrade usage)
I really don't see the issue or what I would do with that information. If a manufacturer tells you it's 12GB usable it's still only 12 GB. usable.
Can't do 16 net, as they have to go in 8 GB steps - 16, 32 etc.)
Just as people don't back up and are upset when they lose files, consumers will buy on price, a friends or sales person's recommendation and then be upset if the phone is full for whatever reason.
Do your homework and you know a 16 is 20 net etc.
I even doubt that uneducated consumers know how many GB a movie has or 1,000 mp3s, let alone lossless vs. 128 bit vs. 320 etc. etc.
But, they will get excited that they can take pictures and videos.
That is until the device is full and they learn.
I interpreted it like the plaintiff is upset that a newer version of iOS takes more space up on their device than the version of iOS the device came with and the new version is forced upon users.
I think that it is oh-gee-whiz, but they may convince a judge/jury. None-the-less, Apple should be upfront when an iOS update will require more space and offer earlier versions of iOS. I love iOS, but the fact that you cannot downgrade to earlier iOS versions has always irked me.
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Brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it? Wait, Apple brought tears to my eyes, I'm suing!
It would've been easier if Apple goes with 32GB as base model. Instead it goes with 16GB for more profit gouging and deal with this lawsuit.
iOS install base is getting bigger by adding more features, come on Apple, ditch 16GB already, make 32GB as minimum, it's not that hard. 16GB has been there for how many years, puhleasee??
It is 2015, a phone with 16GB storage is simply a speck of dust by today's standard.
iOS install base is getting bigger by adding more features, come on Apple, ditch 16GB already, make 32GB as minimum, it's not that hard. 16GB has been there for how many years, puhleasee??
It is 2015, a phone with 16GB storage is simply a speck of dust by today's standard.
The fact of the matter remains that Apple has always been the "what you see is what you get" company. It has always been about ease of use, intuitiveness, and no complicated BS. So when something like this happens, average joe (who has no idea about the inner workings of a smartphone) sees 16GB advertised, he assumes it actually means 16GB is available to him. When he finds out that it's not, that fact is immediately contrary to his perception of Apple.
So yes, I think that despite being a little wishy washy, this lawsuit needs to happen so that Apple either starts including a disclaimer for average Joe and his great grandpa, or gets rid of the 16 GB iPhone altogether.
So yes, I think that despite being a little wishy washy, this lawsuit needs to happen so that Apple either starts including a disclaimer for average Joe and his great grandpa, or gets rid of the 16 GB iPhone altogether.