What a nonsense lawsuit. The device physically has 16 GB. Might as well sue your automaker because the engine takes up what looks like should be a lot more space for suitcases, and the steering wheels gets in the way of reading the newspaper while driving.
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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over Large iOS 8 Storage Space
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My family has 16g devices and they are fine. Company iPads are 16g since we use cloud apps.
This law suit is BS.
And yet people continue to get by with 16GB. I learned a long time ago that an extra $100-200 initially helps more than considerably in the long run when deciding for extra storage. I always buy the max. However, people are cheap and get the base model, only to complain when it doesn't hold a lot. It's on THEM not Apple. Do people even consider what music, apps, photos & video they might want on the phone before buying it? Probably not... and they are dumb for not doing so.
I think that the only people who should get the 16GB model are old people who are going to do little else with it other than making phone calls. And there are plenty of those.
As others have stated, why do you feel that only Apple should have to do this? An OS taking up space on a device is not any different than any other device with storage space.
And as others have also pointed out, iOS takes up a smaller percentage of the available space than most other manufacturers phones - shouldnt they be the first target? Didnt reviewers immediately report that the Microsoft Surface 8GB was useless purchase because it ends up with like 2gb of available space?
Usually the phone ships with less space than advertised. That's true for computers too, just more noticeable on something with less space.
Also, your point on removing the OS doesn't make any sense. iOS has to be installed on the phone!
Thats the most idiotic comparison yet. If our carmaker advertises by storage space that analogy would only work if the engine and luggage were kept in the same place.
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Someone has to be first, does it matter who? The fact that Apple are the most popular and would therefore show the way to the others is worth something surely?
No it isn't. There are enough people that are satisfied with 16 GB storage. I personally need more and bought a 128 GB iPhone. No one is forced to buy the smallest one. And if money is an issue there are enough android cheapos available with more storage at a fraction of the price.
Well you're right but you're very wrong. Please do your homework about the Surface.
i thought iOS devices were one of the best in terms of how much storage you get with the device(that you get most out of the capacity that is listed)
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thats not the point here of the lawsuit, SD card support is borked on Android anyway until everyone gets Lollipop, SD card support in Kitkat is borderline unuseable
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thats not the point here of the lawsuit, SD card support is borked on Android anyway until everyone gets Lollipop, SD card support in Kitkat is borderline unuseable
You are forced to delete things I mean, boohoo, how can I not fit everything possible on my entry level phone? Instead of deleting things, how about not storing all the 3000 selfies on the phone and backing them up to the PC once in a while?
The defendant knew buying an iPhone that there is no expansion, other than the cloud. If they didnt care to know, then that is not Apples problem, is it? The defendant simply is too cheap to buy storage. Pretty sure they wouldve thrown the same hissyfit when having to buy a memory card that they didnt have at hand at the time those precious live events occurred.
And even then you still will run into issues and have to free up space. Mix this with the iMessage issue of being a massive ongoing memory leak on iPads it can be hell to clean up as you have to delete threads one by one.
As for the law suit. Good I am glad it is happening and I want Apple to loose big time. Not because it is Apple but to set a precedence and force all manufactures to shape up on this topic.
My point was that although you don't have the space available to you that the OS uses, you are in fact using that space that you paid for. I'm sure there is a way to remove the OS, I think most people would prefer to use that 4GB for the OS though.
It's ridiculous. Every device/drive where the OS is stored on the same storage space as the user addressable space will utilize some of that storage. Not to mention the whole GB (1GB byte = 1,000,000,000 bytes) to GiB (1Gib = 1,073,741,824 bytes) conversion where an advertised 32GB capacity is really only ~29.8GiB available to the user BEFORE anything consumed by formatting or OS load. That's 7% off the top.
The problem is, consumers are okay with it. A huge portion of iPhone users would be just fine with 8 GB. If you don't download many apps, and embrace the cloud or streaming, that goes along way for pictures and video and other stuff. Probably half of the people I know that have iPhones don't even need 16 GB, there's a lot of parents and grandparents out there with phones never need more space. That's just the reality of how people use their devices.
If they're going to stick to selling devices that only have fixed memory, they need to make the base model of the latest flagship phone 32 GB, in my opinion.
Why hinder the users' experience with your flagship phone unnecessarily? If people want a 16 GB phone, they can buy the previous year's model just like folks can do when buying the 5s from Apple now.
What's ironic is that you can buy the 5s from Apple with either 16 GB or 32 GB of storage but the 6 and 6 Plus aren't offered in 32 GB. That was a massive blunder that only happened because Apple chose to sacrifice customer experience on the altar of profit.
I fully expect that Apple will see the light and will make sure that the new model that comes out in 2015 comes in 32 GB, 64 GB, and 128 GB versions.
Why hinder the users' experience with your flagship phone unnecessarily? If people want a 16 GB phone, they can buy the previous year's model just like folks can do when buying the 5s from Apple now.
What's ironic is that you can buy the 5s from Apple with either 16 GB or 32 GB of storage but the 6 and 6 Plus aren't offered in 32 GB. That was a massive blunder that only happened because Apple chose to sacrifice customer experience on the altar of profit.
I fully expect that Apple will see the light and will make sure that the new model that comes out in 2015 comes in 32 GB, 64 GB, and 128 GB versions.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I've never heard anyone complain that their iPhone has too much storage space. I've definitely heard people complain when they run out of space, though.
Yep, there are apps out now that record 4K. I have "Movie Pro" it records just under 4K and takes about 1GB for every two minutes. Looks great but you have to know when to use it and when not to otherwise the phone fills up very fast.
I seriously don't understand why people are even buying the 16 GB devices anymore. I have been buying 32 GB or larger devices since my iPhone 4, it may cost more, but I don't have to worry about running out of space. With devices out and about now that shoot video in no less than 720P, up to 1080P, decently sizable pictures, song downloads of 10 MB each, and apps that size up in the gig+ range, there is no reason in hell that people should be buying a 16 GB iPhone other than to use it as a phone. Anyone that is familiar with computing know that you lose disk space with all internal drives period due to the 1000KB=1MB, 1000MB=1GB formula that that industry is using nowadays, as well as space for the internal operating system. Apple could say sure, here is a 16 GB device with nothing on it, then people would bitch about not having an operating system on it.... This operating system is quite small compared to the power you are getting out of it vice the space being used. For instance, Windows XP takes more space fully patched and typical machines running it have maybe what 1/8 to 1/4 of the power of the phone overall? The thought that a phone maker should have to either advertise that part of the space you are purchasing will be used by the operating system, or being forced to give you extra space to make up for the operating system is ludicrous. For the user that stated "I would prefer they stuck 6-8gb for the OS to use, and leave the 8GB/16GB/32GB/64GB/128GB/whatever for me to use as storage , personally" This is not able to be accomplished with flash storage and keep the performance up. You can't just say, hmm I am going to use 6-8 GB for the device to have, and the rest is mine. That bring an issue on several fronts. 1. The jailbreak community would figure it out and note that the consumer is not being sold a device with its full storage capacity unlocked, which would cause a lawsuit, and 2. That may work with a 16 GB model, having 8 GB remaining, but you can't just make a 72 GB flash or say a 136 GB flash, the flash storage memory is made in binary sizes for a reason (meaning 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1 etc. and for anti-flaming purposes 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1). I have no doubt in my mind that Apple will win this lawsuit, it just seems like we have nothing better to do in our time but sue corporations for every little thing that we can think of.... It's sad really..
Re-read the details in the article, the lawsuit isn't saying "Apple are forcing customers to buy larger devices up front", quite the opposite infac. It implies that Apple lures customers in with a cheap phone and then stings them for more money at a time when emotions are high and people are likely to pay through the nose to capture that important moment in time. But as we all know, you can't increase the storage in an iPhone.
Unless they have evidence of Grandma sprinting out the school hall and down to the ATT store to pay ~$900 for a larger iPhone there and then to get back to Joey's recital so she can record it, I'm not sure what they're talking about!
The most one can fault Apple for is not making it clearer to iPhone purchasers how much memory they'll have for apps, data, and other non-iOS stuff in advance, though even that's a bit much. It's hard to believe that many people really think that a 16GB iPhone has 16GB free, a 32GB device has 32GB, and so on, but maybe some do and are surprised when they hit the ceiling.
I agree that 16GB is too low an entry point, and you can criticize Apple for how much they charge to go above that. But that's not deceptive - it is what it is, and it's up to the buyer to decide whether to live with 16GB or pay for more.