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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over Large iOS 8 Storage Space
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I don't think you understand how it works. YOU buy the phone. YOU decide the space you need. YOU are NOT forced to do ANYTHING. It's your CHOICE.
Having said that, i have a 6+ 16gb and happy with it. iTunes Match is all i needed to solve my problems. Or spotify, or whatever.
Point is, that a) all MS products are not memory limited and are expandable and b) the smallest MS product [32 GB] has more usable space beyond the OS than the smallest IOS device [16 GB]
Windows has an option to turn on or off auto updates. IOS will auto download os updates and take up space, not letting the user get that space back unless they update.
Windows has a list of system requirements on the box. IOS will auto download large os updates even if you don't want them and doesn't tell you before downloading how much space it will take.
Windows let's you downgrade os versions if you don't like the update. IOS doesn't.
I usually think that these class action suits are BS, but in this case I'm going to agree with the plaintiffs. Apple advertises a given amount of storage space for a given price. When you look at what is actually available for your use you'll find a significantly lower value. For example, my 64 GB iPhone 6 Plus has only 55.70 GB of usable space. Now, this is also the case with Macs. My Mac has a 512 GB SSD, but only 499.04 GB of that is usable. By usable, I mean able to store the user's personal data. For tech-savvy users, like those found in these forums, this seems obvious. For many consumers, this is not obvious. For this reason Apple should provide a disclaimer stating that usable storage space is less than the amount they advertise which, to my knowledge, does not exist.
But who wants to have to buy an sd card? Sounds to me like they're offering to sell that capacity in a desperate moment ... hmm sounds familiar...
This lawsuit is a joke. I didn't have enough room to take photos and video at a recital, etc. Well then unload some of your apps. You can delete data from your iPhone on the fly. If you bought a 16GB device because you wanted the cheapest option and did not make storage a priority for you then you are responsible for that. For some people an iPhone an the capacity to do what it does is what they want. And they can listen to music, surf, run apps, and all that but can't overload it with content because they chose a smaller storage option. But by no means should Apple be blamed for that. There is no reason that a 16GB low end is not viable and that a 32GB is necessitated.
The problem with this lawsuit and with the mode of thinking of anyone who agrees with it is that more and more we live in a world where people don't want to think for themselves, have an personal accountability, or inform themselves before making decisions. And when things don't work out the way they hoped they complain that it isn't fair, or that they were hoodwinked.
You don't see this same lawsuit over computers and their storage space. Every year, almost every OS release on Mac or PC increases the OS footprint. More features, more code, more storage used. The increases are typically marginal, yet they do occur. Why isn't this a class action lawsuit for OS 10.10 and Windows 8.1 as well.
2006, Western Digital sued because actual capacity was lower than expected:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/06/28/western-digital-settles-hard-drive-capacity-lawsuit/
2007, Seagate sued because actual capacity was lower than expected:
http://apcmag.com/seagate_settles_class_action_cash_back_over_misleading_hard_drive_capacities.htm
2014, Apple sued because actual capacity was lower than expected:
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/12/30/apple-hit-with-class-action-over-storage-eaten-up-by-ios-8/
Spoiler alert: actual capacity will be less than advertised.
Also, why don't they sue Microsoft? The Surface Pro 3 can use over 60% of its storage!
The 64GB version has about ~23GB of usable storage. Where is the lawsuit against them?
What about the Android manufacturers that keep putting in 8GB, 4GB, or less storage in their devices, forcing users to buy SD cards (if they even support SD cards)?
Back in 2008, while iPhone users enjoyed their devices with up to 32GB back in 2008, the HTC Dream had 0.25 GB of storage, with much of that unusable.
If a user wants a lot of storage, why are they buying an 8GB or 16GB device in the first place?
Oh, that's right, Apple is the big target that everyone wants to sue.
Also, people keep saying that 16GB is the low end with iOS devices. No, Apple keeps making 8GB. That is how the OS takes nearly 25% of the storage. 8GB is the low end, not 16GB.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/06/28/western-digital-settles-hard-drive-capacity-lawsuit/
2007, Seagate sued because actual capacity was lower than expected:
http://apcmag.com/seagate_settles_class_action_cash_back_over_misleading_hard_drive_capacities.htm
2014, Apple sued because actual capacity was lower than expected:
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/12/30/apple-hit-with-class-action-over-storage-eaten-up-by-ios-8/
Spoiler alert: actual capacity will be less than advertised.
Also, why don't they sue Microsoft? The Surface Pro 3 can use over 60% of its storage!
The 64GB version has about ~23GB of usable storage. Where is the lawsuit against them?
What about the Android manufacturers that keep putting in 8GB, 4GB, or less storage in their devices, forcing users to buy SD cards (if they even support SD cards)?
Back in 2008, while iPhone users enjoyed their devices with up to 32GB back in 2008, the HTC Dream had 0.25 GB of storage, with much of that unusable.
If a user wants a lot of storage, why are they buying an 8GB or 16GB device in the first place?
Oh, that's right, Apple is the big target that everyone wants to sue.
Also, people keep saying that 16GB is the low end with iOS devices. No, Apple keeps making 8GB. That is how the OS takes nearly 25% of the storage. 8GB is the low end, not 16GB.
Indeed, what they they mislead you to believe to be "storage upgrades" is simply a new device. THIS IS MISLEADING and a FALSE STATEMENT and should be punished !!
While I understand your point, 16GB is not silly. There are many average joes that use the phone for, you know, making calls.
If the "average Joe" is only making calls, then why would they buy an iPhone or any other smartphone for that matter. The point is, folks buy an iPhone because they want to make use of all the features and access to 500,000 of Apps? If 16GB is enough, then why to Apple offer 64 and 128 GB?
I had my 64GB Ipad stolen and stupidly decided on "making do" with a 16 GB mini instead. The thing is gimped; with music and a few apps and IOS 8 installed I hover with 1-2GB of free space and am constantly clearing and moving stuff just to download a movie.
A textbook example of a frivolous lawsuit.
I mean they should just be glad they're not using a Surface.
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage
I mean they should just be glad they're not using a Surface.
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage
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And yet Apple has the most room left for storage in that graphic. Awesome.
No. You are not forced to delete thing to make room for content. You and you alone have the choice of which apps, music, photos, videos and other content to put on your phone. And if you run out of space, you have the choice of which content to have. If you want to add more content and don't have space, you make the choice of which content to remove. And you manage that content. Any buyer should best try to anticipate their content storage needs and purchase the appropriate available capacity device. Don't blame Apple if you didn't want to pony up the extra $100-$200 or $5-10 per month on Next or if your budget doesn't allow for it.
I personally found it silly all those clamoring for and ordering 128GB iPhones, but I understand that they may have reasons for that purchase. I personally didn't see the point in getting one that large.
Yep, my car hardly needs petrol [gas], but then again I don't drive it anywhere.
What is the point of buying a smart phone and then not being able to use it properly?
The problem with this lawsuit and with the mode of thinking of anyone who agrees with it is that more and more we live in a world where people don't want to think for themselves, have an personal accountability, or inform themselves before making decisions. And when things don't work out the way they hoped they complain that it isn't fair, or that they were hoodwinked.
Yep. The more we lower the bar for these, the more we continue to sink. C'mon, people!
Yep. The more we lower the bar for these, the more we continue to sink. C'mon, people!
That's like asking why cars and soft drinks come in different sizes and capacities. Different people, different needs.
''The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers,'' -Dick the Butcher, ''Henry VI,'' Part II, act IV, Scene II.
Should be an easy suit to defend for Apple... Every single device I've ever bought that has storage capacity advertises it in the same way the iPhone does. Total capacity and not free space. Any computer, laptop etc. Even hard drives after you format them have less capacity than the advertised spec.
What moron lawyer took this case?
What moron lawyer took this case?
If a person is not capable of using a smart phone properly, then a dumb phone will be both cheaper to own and a more appropriate purchase to make.
MS was already sued for this back in 2012
They've had to disclose remaining storage space ever since