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Stop taking so many effing selfies. There's about a gigabyte of storage back on the average female's (or the extremely odd male's) iPhone.
 
Make sure you opt out of this crap if you get a letter from a lawyer. I guess ambulance chasing is out of fashion, so let's chase multi-national corporations instead.

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How can a computer or phone operate with an operating system?

I can use it as an externel harddrive?
 
I hope he wins! All mobile phone companies do this and it sickens me! Apple as well! Why make a great os that takes up so much space and advertise otherwise of offerings of 16gb, 64gb and 128gb when the OS is gonna take up 4-5 or so GB. Why dont they just add an additional 5-10gb allocated just for OS needs and leave the storage we were promised?!?!

After getting 75 cents and an iTunes gift card and the lawyers get their millions, he will have learned (and probably knows anyway) that there is a reason why
computers, phones. tablets etc. are being offered in various storage configurations.

This is a dishonest shakedown attempt based on the fact that Apple has deep pockets. As others mentioned all manufacturers should/could then be sued.

Free iOS and OS X updates , increasing security updates etc. make it very clear that each iOS upgrade will require larger and larger storage.

Do we really need have everything spelled out?

If you have a lot of music, photos and videos on you device 16GB won't do!
 
That's not because of iOS, iOS is just under 2 GB. The "large chunk" is coming from the byte to bit conversion.

If Ios does like modern MacOs it displays the number of GiB as GB which is actually re******.

1 GB ≈ 0.931323 GiB
64 GB * 0.931323 ≈ 59,6 GiB

So a 64 GB drive has about 59,6 GiB. Then if you have an OS that takes up some things too.

The problem is that these computer companies display GiB as GB which is just done fu****. Older versions of MacOs and most other Unix like systems have the correct way of displaying it.
 
The part I don't understand is it say's people are being pressured at important moments to buy more storage space. How does someone buy more storage space on the phone?

I think it's related to the icloud / photo stream, I ran into this:
If you're in the middle of taking a couple of family photos, a popup message appears on middle of the screen to the effect: "your (free) icloud space is insufficient to backup your iphone, click here to upgrade for $0.99 / month"

i.e. you have to stop everything, carefully click "no", delete some photos, then you can go back to taking new pictures. The icloud photo stream getting full shouldn't stop you from taking pictures...
Deleting photos removes them from the photo stream, so if you haven't saved them separetely on your Mac, they are gone forever.

This is pretty sucky.
 
If the "average Joe" is only making calls, then why would they buy an iPhone or any other smartphone for that matter. The point is, folks buy an iPhone because they want to make use of all the features and access to 500,000 of Apps? If 16GB is enough, then why to Apple offer 64 and 128 GB?

I had my 64GB Ipad stolen and stupidly decided on "making do" with a 16 GB mini instead. The thing is gimped; with music and a few apps and IOS 8 installed I hover with 1-2GB of free space and am constantly clearing and moving stuff just to download a movie.

Thank you for completely missing the point and not bothering to read my entire post. :p
 
I find it amusing that people after 6+ pages are still justifying an entire industry of incorrectly labeling their product. They entire electronics industry should be up to scrutiny for this - not just Apple.

I have no problem with an OS taking up half of my storage as long as when I look on the box, I know that I have X amount of space left. I think that's a very reasonable expectation. Would I file a lawsuit over it - no - but that doesn't mean the idea that the industry should label their products accurately is silly.
 
I think it's related to the icloud / photo stream, I ran into this:
If you're in the middle of taking a couple of family photos, a popup message appears on middle of the screen to the effect: "your (free) icloud space is insufficient to backup your iphone, click here to upgrade for $0.99 / month"

i.e. you have to stop everything, carefully click "no", delete some photos, then you can go back to taking new pictures. The icloud photo stream getting full shouldn't stop you from taking pictures...
Deleting photos removes them from the photo stream, so if you haven't saved them separetely on your Mac, they are gone forever.

This is pretty sucky.

What does this have to do with iOS 8 or the storage space on the phone itself? This is iCloud, not local phone storage.
 
Taking up a lot of space with the user having no idea of how much, is absurd?

What is absurd is your "Apple can do no wrong" faith.

How can the user have no idea? They think the OS doesn't take up any space, due to magic? A brand new MS Surface 64GB model only has 37GB of usable space. A new iPhone 6+ 64gb has 55.6GB of free space. Why aren't they suing MS instead?
 
You all have to admit that 16GB of storage is a joke for 2014. Users take pictures, video and lets face it, the average Joe doesn't sync to their computer very often.

Well jokes on me, since my Galaxy S has a paltry 350MB of storage.:eek: But I'm not the average Joe so my phone syncs so much I call it Titanic. It's syncing right now, it's is syncing!:p It wouldn't matter to me if it had only 50MB of storage, since I carry it around so the Missus can keep tabs on me.:p;):p:D

Apple have always been margin whores but 16GB entry level models for 5 years is ridiculous. Even bigger joke on iPads.

I gotta agree about 16GB being a joke on an iPad. Sure lots of android tablets have only 16GB of storage (heck some even have only 8GB) but they have microSD cards slots to bump that to respectable level. Considering the price of an iPad, they should come with at least 64GB -- for the masses -- with the option up to 256GB or 512GB for the 1%.

Not gonna happen because :apple: doesn't give us what we want, they TELL US what we want.:rolleyes:
 
How can the user have no idea? They think the OS doesn't take up any space, due to magic? A brand new MS Surface 64GB model only has 37GB of usable space. A new iPhone 6+ 64gb has 55.6GB of free space. Why aren't they suing MS instead?

I'm guessing because they don't own a surface but instead an apple device? Just a hunch
 
They Can't !! That's the whole point. Either you buy a very expensive 64 or 128 Gb iPad or iPhone, or you're stuck with it. And since you cannot put a SD card in it, and that's the reason, you're again stuck !!! 23% of your storage is A LOT !!!!!!
They're trying to have you buy a very expensive device. They do not care about their customers at all. All they care about, is MONEY !!!

Uhhh last time I checked Apple was a public corporation. Their only reason for existing is to make money for themselves and the shareholders. Companies don't exist to make you feel good about yourself they exist to make money. If they have happy customers that leads to more money but it really doesn't matter (look at comcast).

On another note I always wondered why these phones don't come with say 8-16GB of space separate from the built in storage that is only for the OS and built in apps. Then the 32 or 64GB that they advertise can be advertised as usable storage. It is probably a cost thing.
 
This lawsuit will go nowhere for many reasons. Every OEM would be guilty of this as every new OS is bigger than the last. OSX, Windows, Linux, and all mobile OS's follow this trait. The precedent a guilty verdict would set is horrific.

If you buy the lowest capacity device you should know you'll run out of space at some point. That's why they sell two larger sizes...

Win8 didn't tell me how much more space it would use when I upgraded my desktop. Nor did my Macbook when I installed Yosemite. Why should iOS have to do this? It's not like most users would click no to the upgrade. They'd click yes then argue they didn't understand what a MB is.

The only OS I'm aware of that does this is CentOS (yum prints storage used on new components).
 
I don't get it? What's the issue? Just pay for the storage you want. I have 16gb. That's fine for me. I have a time capsule, Mac mini and an ipad, I don't need a lot of storage or stuff on my iphone.. I'm good. :)
 
If they're going to stick to selling devices that only have fixed memory, they need to make the base model of the latest flagship phone (...bigger number...), in my opinion.

That's what they said when the original Macs only had up to 2 400k disk drives. That's what they said when the Palm V only had 2 MB. And that's what they'll still be saying when the Apple Watch Deluxe comes with only 2 TB.

Tech progress and Moore's law will give you more than your bigger number eventually... but your number will always grow even bigger.

Some people are born to be permanently unhappy.
 
The suit will never gain any traction with anybody. Sure it sucks that the OS takes up so much space, but Apple did not force you to get an 8 GB iPhone that you got for free under contract
 
Well I am of the opinion that really Apple should be selling USER space especially at their premium per GB. Most users have no idea about an OS or anything like that. They assume I have 16 gb to put stuff or 64 or 128 etc. Apple should put 20GB in the device and leave 16 for user storage and state its a 16gb device. That would be the right thing to do. However I suspect legally there is not much can be done. It is a 16gb device. The fact that they dont disclose that their iOS takes 25% of it is fine print stuff unfortunately.
 
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