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That's kinda my thinking too. That said, once the new ones are out (assuming they're released right after the event) where are some good places to get new 'last year' models?
I actually always buy refurbished. It's exactly the same as new, just cheaper. And when the new ones come out, all the refurbished models should drop in price.
 
No, that line-up would make too much sense and doesn't offer Apple Courage™
Plus, there isn't enough margin for Apple to bother with selling their own displays.

Expect only Macs w/ integrated screens to get refreshes moving forward:

MacBook
MacBook Pro
iMac
iMac Pro

What is this iMac Pro you speak of?
 
Perhaps this has already been asked and answered but I'm not wading through 700+ comments to find it, so ... in general, when Apple has had new Mac announcement events in the past, how long after the announcement were they available for purchase? Same day? Next day? A week?
I remember back at the end me of Oct 2012, the Thin iMacs and fusion drives were introduced.

I bought a 27" one and it didn't ship until the end of December. Although, it was rumored that the displays had lamination issues and there was a low yield of good ones.

That was the first model with the new laminating process, so that was probably why.

So, I guess it depends on if there is any major design changes, and if there are if there are any problems with the manufacturing of the new stuff.

I ordered mine on launch and it was delivered on the 26 of December.
 
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Perhaps this has already been asked and answered but I'm not wading through 700+ comments to find it, so ... in general, when Apple has had new Mac announcement events in the past, how long after the announcement were they available for purchase? Same day? Next day? A week?

Usually 1 to 4 weeks.

In some rare rare cases like the last Mac Pro, then 2-3 months
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What is this iMac Pro you speak of?

stay tuned

Not expected to be announced at the 10/27/16 event

iMac w/ dual GPU Vega, launch est. Q2 2017
 
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Usually 1 to 4 weeks.

In some rare rare cases like the last Mac Pro, then 2-3 months

Are you talking about purchase availability, or ship time? I was wanting to how long after the announcement event they usually have them available to buy through the Apple Store website, not how long some take to ship. Are you saying they usually announce the Macs anywhere from a week up to a month before you can actually place an order?
 
Usually 1 to 4 weeks.

In some rare rare cases like the last Mac Pro, then 2-3 months
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stay tuned

Not expected to be announced at the 10/27/16 event

iMac w/ dual GPU Vega, launch est. Q2 2017

hmmm...is this a guess or you know something we don't know?
 
GREAAAAT. So, I suppose now I will need a dongle to connect my ImageWriter II dot matrix printer? NO SALE! I've had it up to HERE with the likes of you people!
 
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I am really looking forward to this event even so I cannot imagine Apple introduces anything that I might get interested. I will get interested once they release either a 12"-14" laptop with a quad core CPU, I am talking about Geekbench scores of 12000+ or an iMac with a 6-core CPU. In addition those ridiculous cost for the SSD must stop. The extra cost for the 1TB SSD are a rip-off

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But aren't the performance differences very different between those two. The sata ones top out at 6 gigabits/sec. that translates to about 600 megabytes per second. the 2015 iMac SSDs have run at like 18 gigabits/sec. That is about 2000 megabytes per second. So I can understand the price, and even the comparable SSD's that you can purchase cost about what apple charges. But the average user probably doesn't even need it anyway so... I guess the most common user wouldn't bother to upgrade the storage anyway?? :confused:
 
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Are you talking about purchase availability, or ship time? I was wanting to how long after the announcement event they usually have them available to buy through the Apple Store website, not how long some take to ship. Are you saying they usually announce the Macs anywhere from a week up to a month before you can actually place an order?
It's usually available right after the press conference.
 
And the biggest reason is that Apple's laptops don't have to have sub-par performance. Apple just chooses that functionality so they can say thin, light and low temperature.

I really hope you are just trolling, because that makes no sense at all. Not from a technical point of view AND from a common sense point of view.
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Apple used to be the best system available.

You must be joking. I worked with top of the line PowerPCs in the 1990s and they were in terms of performance consistently worse than similar PCs. But they were the benchmark in life science at the time. The big difference is that they always worked. And that has not really changed. Still the reliability of the macs I work with is far superior to the Windows pcs I work with.
 
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What's with the weird rotten apple looking logo? Is it supposed to be a Fall theme or something? Looks more like a subliminal internal commentary on the state of Apple at the moment...maybe it is meant to portray rising from ashes, almost like a phoenix? If they do knock it out of the park, they might justify that imagery...

Here's to hoping they do!
 
Could we see a lightening port on Mac's instead? Having the option to charge from lightening or usb-c would be useful, especially if they updated the MacBook 12" with lightening to replace 3.5mm

Seems strange to have one range of products with one type of headphone connection and other with something else.

I'm definitely in the camp that says yes.

The numerous benefits are that:

1) It becomes a charging method using the same cable the iPhone uses, leaving the USB-C port free for peripherals.

2) It serves as a natively compatible headphone jack for the iPhone's Lightning headphones allowing iPhone 7 users to actually use their Lightning headphones on their Macs.

3) It serves an optional USB 3 port leaving the USB-C port free for something else to be used at the same time without a hub. This is especially important for the Retina MacBook, which will lose its headphone jack.

4) It allows Apple to simplify its adapter lineup by offering Lightning only adapters for common functions like SDXC card readers, USB 3.0 ports, HDMI ports, etc. It also allows a customer to immediately use any Lightning adapters they already own, where the prospect of buying a lot of USB-C adapters is a deterrent.

Will Apple do it? It paves the way to remove the headphone jack down the line on all Macs, as rumored, using what they have established as an Apple standard audio interface. There has also to date, been no hint of a Lightning headphone adapter to anything else, including USB-C -- much less 3.5mm.

Also, until I start seeing high end USB-C headphones in the marketplace, I'm not convinced there are going to be two different standards. For one thing, I don't see PCs dropping the headphone jack, and while Androids will likely start dropping it, I don't think we'll see a complete eradication for a few years yet. And, Like Apple, there's likely going to be more people using adapters in the beginning, than investing in native USB-C or Lightning headphones.

If I were Apple, I'd be pushing the development of higher quality, low latency, wireless audio, so that by the time they're able to eliminate all ports, wired audio on any device will no longer be an issue, and the need for wired digital interface headphones, mostly moot.
 
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The Mac Mini and iMac should not be merged. They are two different machines targeted at two different audiences.

They targeted audiences that were relevant until circa 2010. The concepts behind the iMac and Mini are so outdated at this point that it's almost embarrassing. People are much more computer and Internet savvy nowadays so they don't need the hand-holding experience of the all-in-one iMac (an idea that dates all the way back the late 90s, for god's sake.) The days of Apple actively enticing switchers to jump ship from Windows is over so the Mini is serving no purpose at this point other than teasing Mac users with what a real desktop option could look like if it had specs that brought it up to the current year.

I'm completely baffled by anyone who thinks the iMac and Mini are still relevant in 2016. They served a purpose at one point but those reasons for existing are long, long gone. Both of those lines need to be put out of their misery and laid to rest and replaced with something that makes sense for today.
 
I'm completely baffled by anyone who thinks the iMac and Mini are still relevant in 2016. They served a purpose at one point but those reasons for existing are long, long gone. Both of those lines need to be put out of their misery and laid to rest and replaced with something that makes sense for today.
While I can sort of see where you are heading with Mini, are you trolling or do you seriously think Apple has no need to have ANY desktop computers? (let's have a moment of silence for the trashcan)
 
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I think Apple will eventually put ARM based chips inside Macs, but it won't be as a replacement for x86. It will be in addition to, and I think we are a few years out. I see future custom Apple designed SOCs using AMD's zen logic design with Radeon graphics combined in "fusion" with Apple's own x86 chips. Old Apps will launch on the x86 cores, new Apps will have the ability to run on either ARM or x86 depending on the need, and the OS/Apple apps the same. You'll have the performance of a high end x86 when needed with the efficiency Apple's ARM chips when desired. Apps would be built from XTools as either ARM/x86/hybrid etc.

That is something only Apple could really pull off well because they can control the hardware, OS and development tools.
[doublepost=1476972437][/doublepost]That really depends on the angle at which the cable is being pulled. You could pull a 27-inch iMac off a desk with a lightning connector if you pulled it at the right angle.
[doublepost=1476972775][/doublepost]Wow, you clearly don't understand much about SSD/SATA/PCIE etc. . Your are comparing one of the worst SATA based SSDs on the market, to a top of the line PCIEx4 SSD. They are not even in the same ball park technology wise.
[doublepost=1476973050][/doublepost]Even the 850 EVO in an M.2 form factor still uses the SATA interface. A valid comparison is to a PCIE SSD like this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228164

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147595

Apple can't make x86 chip... The don't have the license for it.
 
Technically apple cannot make ARM chips either since they don't have a foundry, and have to rely on Samsung and others ;)

The post I was responding to was talking about Apple own chip design, which can't be x86. The AMD x86 license is non transferable, so even if AMD were to produce it they wouldn't be able to stamp the Apple logo on those chip without repercussion.
 
Technically apple cannot make ARM chips either since they don't have a foundry, and have to rely on Samsung and others ;)

The OP you were replying to was talking about something different than what you are. He / she was talking about designing x86 chips. You're talking about manufacturing chips. The only reason Apple can make their own custom SoC's is because they license the instruction set from ARM for the CPU and instruction set from Imagination Tech for the GPU. Once Apple designs the chips, Samsung manufactures them.

Apple cannot make x86 chips because they don't have a license to design x86 chips, nevermind manufacture them. Get the difference?
 
Oh boy can't wait to be disappointed and pissed off, again.
The question isn't even whether they will leave stuff out in terms of ports. It's how much they will leave out. If the rumors are true and there is no SD card, HDMI, USB-A, or mini-DP TB I'll just be buying a refurb retina MBP.
I'm so sick of the Ive/Cook obsession with thin devices with minimal ports. People uses these computers in the real world to get work done. We aren't all just hanging out in cafès.
Especially the possibility that the power connection might be moving to USB-C ticks me off.
The only justification for that is yet another form factor shrink. And come on the laptop is thin and light enough. Let the tiny laptop people have the Air and Macbook. Leave the Macbook Pro for us folks that need real ports and real computers.

Remember when you looked forward to the next Apple launch event with anticipation? When did that change to trepidation and uncertainty. "please don't screw it up Tim!".
 
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Oh boy can't wait to be disappointed and pissed off, again.
The question isn't even whether they will leave stuff out in terms of ports. It's how much they will leave out. If the rumors are true and there is no SD card, HDMI, USB-A, or mini-DP TB I'll just be buying a refurb retina MBP.
I'm so sick of the Ive/Cook obsession with thin devices with minimal ports. People uses these computers in the real world to get work done. We aren't all just hanging out in cafès.
Especially the possibility that the power connection might be moving to USB-C ticks me off.
The only justification for that is yet another form factor shrink. And come on the laptop is thin and light enough. Let the tiny laptop people have the Air and Macbook. Leave the Macbook Pro for us folks that need real ports and real computers.

Ive's devices are getting thinner and he seems to be getting bigger. Just an observation.
 
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