Well it's a captive audience that includes a lot of institutional clientele - not sure that contradicts the statement of a lot of unhappy Windows users (me for one). I was very unhappy with the forcing of windows 10 (stayed on 7 on my old machine) and the privacy violations. I will say those razors look awesome though.
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I like Razer, they make great laptops, but my post was mostly targeted around his claim that MacBook Pro 2011 was the "last real laptop" - which I don't get. I said that my 2013 MBP is still faster than *most* PC laptops I see, not that there are no faster laptops at all. Razer makes really fast computers, and their build quality is good. Not sure about their design choices, I understand it's a gaming laptop, but I don't really like those chroma keyboards - but other than that - it's an impressive hardware. Still, it's a huge 17" laptop - not for everyone. I want something that offers comparable performance (at least when it comes to the CPU, I'm sure the new MBP won't come close to GeForce 1080) in a lighter package. It's good to have a choice
I'm certainly glad there are some good alternatives to the Mac, but saying that Apple doesn't make "real laptops" any more is just, well, wrong.BTW, Razer, of course, runs Windows. That may or may not be important to some, but for me is a world of difference.
What's the connection?
Removing CAPS LOCK is a good idea imo, I mean, do people actually use CAPS? I rather have that button for Spotlight/CMD+F/Siri
I like Razer, they make great laptops, but my post was mostly targeted around his claim that MacBook Pro 2011 was the "last real laptop" - which I don't get. I said that my 2013 MBP is still faster than *most* PC laptops I see, not that there are no faster laptops at all. Razer makes really fast computers, and their build quality is good. Not sure about their design choices, I understand it's a gaming laptop, but I don't really like those chroma keyboards - but other than that - it's an impressive hardware. Still, it's a huge 17" laptop - not for everyone. I want something that offers comparable performance (at least when it comes to the CPU, I'm sure the new MBP won't come close to GeForce 1080) in a lighter package. It's good to have a choice
BTW, Razer, of course, runs Windows. That may or may not be important to some, but for me is a world of difference.
Some people don't need top end performance. When the OS is not available on hardware with the corresponding performance that someone needs, it does not matter if the OS is magnitudes better or not. Anyone that needs top end performance is dumping Apple for the last few years. Apple may not care, but it is damaging their brand. At one time, Apple laptops were near enough to the top performers that it did not matter and a lot of people were moving to Apple. Today, not so much and anyone needing top end performance is moving away. Explain how that is good. Its not, but if people accept the status quo and don't complain loudly then why would anyone expect a change?
I work in DTP and use it at daily basis. Another use of caps lock is for users in regions where latin-extended characters are used.
Yes, but compare this to how many people who would use it as a search button. Don't think "CAPS will be missed", people need to learn to hold shift or simply rebind shift to use "Dubbeltap" like on the iPhone.
Holding shift isn't solution because of those special characters (diacritic) - if I'll type them with shift down it will type numbers instead of diacritics. But double tap would be great solution.
For me, it would make more sense to get rid of that eject button since there are no superdrives anymore
But the end is not your personal computer, you dont have your content, bookmarks, accounts, etc. on it so the user experience is bad. In home you may need big display and a lot of horsepower. Outside home you may need portability, long lasting battery, etc. Right know, you achieve this by buying two devices, a desktop and a laptop, spending tons of money and no matter how good they are synced, you always loose part of your content when switching from one device to another. Look at Razer Blade Stealth and Razer Core and you will see what I mean.
That is absolutely not true. Have you ever heard about possibility to create multiple users account?
There is a little something called Dropbox. And all my settings sync across iCloud just fine.
Your setup would work if I were the only person at home using such a setup, and indeed, if I were staying by myself, I might be tempted with such a setup. But there are other considerations at play and an iMac represents the best compromise for my family.
The 5k display and color gamut is nice and a good price. But you can't do a true color calibration on it, virtually no physical adjustments and then the limitations of the all-in-one form. Yes, to each his own.
Not everyone needs a computer outside of the house. I'm a SAHM, so my phone and iPad are all I need to stay connected when I'm not at home. My DH works full time but is not in an industry where he needs to be plugged in all the time and has no need to carry a computer with him. So he uses a desktop at work and a desktop at home. My kids share my old iMac, and as they are only 9 & 10, they aren't getting a laptop anytime soon, because I want them in the main part of the house where I can see what they are doing. They also have iPads for the occasional text they might need to send.
They need to connect to their school website for various things, and I won't let them use their iPads to do so (unless it's a reading only kind of app) because I want them to learn how to use a keyboard properly and be comfortable on a full computer.
A central computer is still a very big part of the average American family with kids who aren't over the age of say, 15-16.
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I have a late 2012 iMac (and before that used a 2008 iMac which is still around), and while it's true you can't get quite as good of a calibration as you can with a standalone monitor, I've never had trouble getting my prints to match my monitor after calibrating. This includes most labs (a couple never match no matter what) and now printing at home with a higher end photo printer.
Summary of thoughts:
Invite: Deep Black, vibrant colour, OLED would be a nice touch
Image in the background is indeed the colour palette of the current available colours in other devices
It's an explosion of powder, like that festival in India (can't remember the name, not Diwali, something else? not sure)
Arm boosted Intel chips could be interesting, I remember a story a while back about Intel becoming a manufacturing partner, perhaps now is the time. We've seen some precedent for multiple-PU setups in consoles for a while now (above and beyond the obvious CPU/GPU concept)... perhaps we're in for ARM SPU's to handle the grunt of simpler things and then a full on higher spec Skylake or something... that'd be nice. May be required for...
Touch screen. This would be very useful for me actually. I'm slowly getting used to a world of both sets of interactions. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if touch screen (of some kind) + Apple Pencil is a REAL thing for this announcement. If they really make it as thin as they're saying, it'd only be a few mm thicker that the iPad Pro. Could be an interesting mix and they usually refine stuff in the market well (surfacebook seems like a very hacked attempt to do better than the ASUS transformer lol)
More universal apps across all devices, tighter icloud syncing and saving etc all on the cards, seemless app use from iOS to macOS through the same kind of proximity stuff they have for apple watch unlocking.. little notification to say "Continue using $app.." or something to try and make it as seemless as possible. No basis for this, but seems like a logical progression to me.
Dedicated GPU, matching any specs as the new rumoured screens. I'd love to see them announce a screen with built in GPU. Again, we're talking about mutliple-PU being my big shout-out.. 'Your devices are boosting your experience above what we consider a best place to start, empowering you to do more than ever before' etc.. Does thunderUSwotzitC have the grunt for SLi type throughput? not sure, someone will have to fill me in on that one
iMac to Mac : I think we'll also see some of the work they did on TV tech over the last few years come in... super thin, super light, 5K HDR (because OLED or whatever) ... could be very good for screen tech.
Games push. See all our new awesome awesomeness run on Apple-Ultra, exclusively possible on Apple devices etc... I'm just pissing in the wind with this one but it occurred to me while writing the above
Anyways, We'll see what happens, I need a Macbook Pro for work, they're going to sign off whatever it is. I'd buy it off them if I could, so we'll just see what we get
Invite: Deep Black, vibrant colour, OLED would be a nice touch
Image in the background is indeed the colour palette of the current available colours in other devices
It's an explosion of powder, like that festival in India (can't remember the name, not Diwali, something else? not sure)
Arm boosted Intel chips could be interesting, I remember a story a while back about Intel becoming a manufacturing partner, perhaps now is the time. We've seen some precedent for multiple-PU setups in consoles for a while now (above and beyond the obvious CPU/GPU concept)... perhaps we're in for ARM SPU's to handle the grunt of simpler things and then a full on higher spec Skylake or something... that'd be nice. May be required for...
Touch screen. This would be very useful for me actually. I'm slowly getting used to a world of both sets of interactions. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if touch screen (of some kind) + Apple Pencil is a REAL thing for this announcement. If they really make it as thin as they're saying, it'd only be a few mm thicker that the iPad Pro. Could be an interesting mix and they usually refine stuff in the market well (surfacebook seems like a very hacked attempt to do better than the ASUS transformer lol)
More universal apps across all devices, tighter icloud syncing and saving etc all on the cards, seemless app use from iOS to macOS through the same kind of proximity stuff they have for apple watch unlocking.. little notification to say "Continue using $app.." or something to try and make it as seemless as possible. No basis for this, but seems like a logical progression to me.
Dedicated GPU, matching any specs as the new rumoured screens. I'd love to see them announce a screen with built in GPU. Again, we're talking about mutliple-PU being my big shout-out.. 'Your devices are boosting your experience above what we consider a best place to start, empowering you to do more than ever before' etc.. Does thunderUSwotzitC have the grunt for SLi type throughput? not sure, someone will have to fill me in on that one
iMac to Mac : I think we'll also see some of the work they did on TV tech over the last few years come in... super thin, super light, 5K HDR (because OLED or whatever) ... could be very good for screen tech.
Games push. See all our new awesome awesomeness run on Apple-Ultra, exclusively possible on Apple devices etc... I'm just pissing in the wind with this one but it occurred to me while writing the above
Anyways, We'll see what happens, I need a Macbook Pro for work, they're going to sign off whatever it is. I'd buy it off them if I could, so we'll just see what we get
Yeah buddy, I've been losing muscle mass with these lightweight laptops. sad face
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Actually I don't use F4 (Launchpad) at all. I think it should be removed and people need to learn to hold shift and press F3.
I didn't expect that my joke about Caps Lock removal would be taken seriously.
I like it, too. I like how you can actually move the screen to better suit your needs, and not just tilt up and down like the current model. I kinda wish you could use the Apple Pencil on it as well for digital graphics work. However, I do realize that that's a bit too niche a market, probably.
AMD graphics is a no-go for me. I need CUDA for 3D rendering.
And still no 17" model? Come on Apple, why are you making it so hard for me to buy your products?
I haven't even bothered to see if memory can be expanded to 64GB or internal SSD can be expanded > 4TB.
All I have to say is,
meh.
Lowercase intentional.
And still no 17" model? Come on Apple, why are you making it so hard for me to buy your products?
I haven't even bothered to see if memory can be expanded to 64GB or internal SSD can be expanded > 4TB.
All I have to say is,
meh.
Lowercase intentional.
Most people don't need top end performance. People who start their buying experience by looking at a detailed spec sheet represent a niche market. Apple has never seriously pursued that market. People who start with the detailed spec sheet are also highly likely to be people who plan to start with those specs maxed out, and then swap out components to upgrade the device over time. Apple has never pursued that market because its business model is built on limiting variables by developing the hardware and software in concert. That coordinated development process almost guarantees that macs will fall short somewhere on that spec sheet when compared to the latest tricked out Windows machine.
Windows OS is written with the intent that it will run on machines with orders of magnitude more hardware variables than Macs. Windows machines are vastly more customizable, and are far more satisfying to owners who want to spend time tweaking things under the hood. Likewise, Macs are enormously frustrating to that same user niche. Apple doesn't care about that, nor should they. The only way to satisfy that buyer is to abandon the company's core business model that has satisfied a lot of customers and brought an enormous amount of success to the company. Apple's limitation of variables through coordinated hardware and software development is where the whole "it just works" mystique comes from. You can't do much under the hood of a mac, but you also aren't so likely to be compelled by malfunctions and crashes to look under the hood of a mac.
Interestingly, while quite a few Windows machines are more prone to receiving hardware upgrades over time, macs are far more likely to spend the life of the device running the most current OS.
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That is good to know. Apple has always done a good factory calibration out of the box. But calibrations fade over time but maybe not so much. I have a thing about accurate color, though. A few years ago I spent a mere $400 for a Panasonic plasma TV but didn't hesitate to spend $300 for a professional calibration. And it was well worth it. I also returned an Apple iPad Mini model before they corrected the shrunken color gamut on a later model. I have to admit I am a bit of a perfectionist but sometimes good enough is just fine - even for me!
Yes, they certainly are - but as you notices correctly - no mention of battery life. Because it's most likely very bad. This type of laptop is meant to be a "compact desktop" - something that looks good on a desk and that you can take with you, but it's not meant to be used on the go. That 1080 spends a lot of power, there's no going around it.
Summary of thoughts:
Invite: Deep Black, vibrant colour, OLED would be a nice touch
Image in the background is indeed the colour palette of the current available colours in other devices
It's an explosion of powder, like that festival in India (can't remember the name, not Diwali, something else? not sure)
Arm boosted Intel chips could be interesting, I remember a story a while back about Intel becoming a manufacturing partner, perhaps now is the time. We've seen some precedent for multiple-PU setups in consoles for a while now (above and beyond the obvious CPU/GPU concept)... perhaps we're in for ARM SPU's to handle the grunt of simpler things and then a full on higher spec Skylake or something... that'd be nice. May be required for...
Touch screen. This would be very useful for me actually. I'm slowly getting used to a world of both sets of interactions. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if touch screen (of some kind) + Apple Pencil is a REAL thing for this announcement. If they really make it as thin as they're saying, it'd only be a few mm thicker that the iPad Pro. Could be an interesting mix and they usually refine stuff in the market well (surfacebook seems like a very hacked attempt to do better than the ASUS transformer lol)
More universal apps across all devices, tighter icloud syncing and saving etc all on the cards, seemless app use from iOS to macOS through the same kind of proximity stuff they have for apple watch unlocking.. little notification to say "Continue using $app.." or something to try and make it as seemless as possible. No basis for this, but seems like a logical progression to me.
Dedicated GPU, matching any specs as the new rumoured screens. I'd love to see them announce a screen with built in GPU. Again, we're talking about mutliple-PU being my big shout-out.. 'Your devices are boosting your experience above what we consider a best place to start, empowering you to do more than ever before' etc.. Does thunderUSwotzitC have the grunt for SLi type throughput? not sure, someone will have to fill me in on that one
iMac to Mac : I think we'll also see some of the work they did on TV tech over the last few years come in... super thin, super light, 5K HDR (because OLED or whatever) ... could be very good for screen tech.
Games push. See all our new awesome awesomeness run on Apple-Ultra, exclusively possible on Apple devices etc... I'm just pissing in the wind with this one but it occurred to me while writing the above
Anyways, We'll see what happens, I need a Macbook Pro for work, they're going to sign off whatever it is. I'd buy it off them if I could, so we'll just see what we get
This is a good way to set yourself up for disappointment. Arm chips are not coming - even if they were, they would announce the tech a good year or two before it becomes available to give developers time to recompile their apps, and even then, A LOT of apps just wouldn't work. I'm not saying ARM isn't coming ever, but it will be announced well ahead of availability.
Touch screen on a Mac has been discussed on these forums ad nauseam. In short - Apple won't do it.
I also seriously doubt we'll see OLED on Macs for a while. There are numerous articles about this, but the tech isn't ready for computer screens yet. Apple doesn't even use them on phones (that may change next year) let alone computer displays.
Also, don't hold your breath for games, either. Due to their own fault, Apple lost game developers and game players a long time ago. I'm not saying they can't turn things around, but it will be a long process.
What we are going to get are good computers. Faster and lighter MacBooks with better screens and a couple of tricks, like the OLED bar, maybe iMacs with better GPUs (and hey, maybe even color options this time) and maybe a couple of smaller surprises. Maybe a 5K standalone display? Who knows.
Yeah, that's why I went with SPU instead of ARM only. I'm not setting myself for disappointment either, it's not a wishlist just a summary of what I'm thinking. I'm fine without them, but happier to see them, ya know? ^_^
Summary of thoughts:
Invite: Deep Black, vibrant colour, OLED would be a nice touch
Image in the background is indeed the colour palette of the current available colours in other devices
It's an explosion of powder, like that festival in India (can't remember the name, not Diwali, something else? not sure)
Arm boosted Intel chips could be interesting, I remember a story a while back about Intel becoming a manufacturing partner, perhaps now is the time. We've seen some precedent for multiple-PU setups in consoles for a while now (above and beyond the obvious CPU/GPU concept)... perhaps we're in for ARM SPU's to handle the grunt of simpler things and then a full on higher spec Skylake or something... that'd be nice. May be required for...
Touch screen. This would be very useful for me actually. I'm slowly getting used to a world of both sets of interactions. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if touch screen (of some kind) + Apple Pencil is a REAL thing for this announcement. If they really make it as thin as they're saying, it'd only be a few mm thicker that the iPad Pro. Could be an interesting mix and they usually refine stuff in the market well (surfacebook seems like a very hacked attempt to do better than the ASUS transformer lol)
More universal apps across all devices, tighter icloud syncing and saving etc all on the cards, seemless app use from iOS to macOS through the same kind of proximity stuff they have for apple watch unlocking.. little notification to say "Continue using $app.." or something to try and make it as seemless as possible. No basis for this, but seems like a logical progression to me.
Dedicated GPU, matching any specs as the new rumoured screens. I'd love to see them announce a screen with built in GPU. Again, we're talking about mutliple-PU being my big shout-out.. 'Your devices are boosting your experience above what we consider a best place to start, empowering you to do more than ever before' etc.. Does thunderUSwotzitC have the grunt for SLi type throughput? not sure, someone will have to fill me in on that one
iMac to Mac : I think we'll also see some of the work they did on TV tech over the last few years come in... super thin, super light, 5K HDR (because OLED or whatever) ... could be very good for screen tech.
Games push. See all our new awesome awesomeness run on Apple-Ultra, exclusively possible on Apple devices etc... I'm just pissing in the wind with this one but it occurred to me while writing the above
Anyways, We'll see what happens, I need a Macbook Pro for work, they're going to sign off whatever it is. I'd buy it off them if I could, so we'll just see what we get
It's "anyway".