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Apple Invites Reporters Into Testing Lab, Details iPhone 6 Plus Durability Tests

Pity most people on the internet don't have enough gumption and backbone to be HONEST, and say that "Yeah, I can see how it could be a problem, but without deeper investigation and discussion, I'll hold off any judgement until I know all the facts"

Folks are too scared to speak their minds, and bow to peer pressure from random strangers online thinking their opinion could be seen as "controversial", so they herd together in the "for" or "against" groups, and just blindly parrot what everyone ELSE in their chosen group is saying - never mind FACT.

"Ohhh, I have to be seen as having a say, or I'll appear weak or... perish the thought... FAIR"

#growapairandbeaman


PS: I hold nothing against this "Lou" bloke personally, I just think that what he has done was HIGHLY dubious, and perhaps not the best decision, as a "high profile" reviewer. Then again, ratings rule above common sense and discretion, in a world of superficiality and hype...

I am confident he is a very nice fellow, his actions were just a little unwise.
 
Piggie said:
You have a problem with him?

He did zero wrong.

He simply showed how the iPhone 6+ bent more than other phones.

That is good for consumers.

Does not matter how he bent it as he tried to bend them all in the same manner, which tells you as a consumer far more than Apple saying we decided it was fine on our test machine.
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I would trust the calibrated test equipment more then bendboy who is likely looking for youtube hits.
 
KellydenAdel said:


Ignorant statement indeed.


Formal testing doesnt often replicate real world testing


ALL ENGINEERS know this fact.


wise up.
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Unfortunately this is why Apple does so well, people just hide their head in the sand, even when their phone gets trashed by IOS 8.01, it's not Apples fault. Unfortunately while this keeps going on, Apple will just throw anything out there.
 
For all the people here that stick up for Apple, as if they don't make mistakes, Apple has made some enormous mistakes in its history. Almost every company has.

The key to a good company, is to not immediately blame its customers, like Jobs did when he claimed people were holding their iPhone the wrong way. The whole point of making devices like this, is to get out there and see how real people use them.

Sometimes Apple comes up with some incredibly beautiful designs, but sometimes, they also just don't adequately test these designs, like the Power Mac G4 Cube that had issues with its outer case cracking. Or the iPhone 3G antenna problems.

There are quite a few problems Apple products have faced over the years. It's not that Apple stuffs up more than any other company, it's that their stuff ups seem to be more spectacular than most other companies. They also seem to be linked to a lack of real world testing by real people, rather than lab rats from the company. There's also an expectation from most customers that aren't die hard fanboys, that because the products cost considerably more than competitors, that those products will be considerably better quality.
 
Does anyone know if the iPhone 6 housing went through stress analysis during the design? It would show where the weak area would be.
 
swingerofbirch said:
A machine cannot account for how tight a European's pants or how large an American's ass can be.
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Also ignorant statement 100%


A 80 pound girl wearing SKINNY jeans can / could / WOULD WRECK the Iphone from stress flex JUST AS EASY




Suggest you wise up



A boney ARSE will bend a phone FAR FAR FASTER than FAT will.



Fat is a CUSHION, bone is NOT
 
KellydenAdel said:


Ignorant statement indeed.


Formal testing doesnt often replicate real world testing


ALL ENGINEERS know this fact.


wise up.
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And no matter how much "real world testing" is done, people like you will always have a bone to pick with it. "It's not enough". "It's not well-defined." Because complaining about everything is the easy way out.

If you hate the product so much, have the intelligence to avoid buying it.
 
Small White Car said:
How is that clear? Where is the chart outlining exactly how much every phone model bends? Where does the iPhone 6+ rank on this list? You seem to know all of this and yet are neglecting to share.
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Sorry. Thought it was clear that plastic performs better in a bending test than aluminium. The video of the guy that bends the 6+ showing how some plastic Samsung doesn't bend at all was pretty convincing. Still, just ordered a 6 and 6+ to replace 5s of me and my wife. Can only hope it is not so bad as it looks. Just don't trust Apple PR on this one..
 
OK, well I was critical of Apple a few days ago about this, but assuming all of this testing is true I have now done a 180 and believe the reports from supposed users claiming the phone is bending by "normal" pocketing are either complete lies (in other words it wasn't "normal"), or is a plant by Samsung.
 
KellydenAdel said:


Ignorant statement indeed.


Formal testing doesnt often replicate real world testing


ALL ENGINEERS know this fact.


wise up.
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Yeah the real world shows that only 0.00009% iPhone 6 has bend problem. Even if you think Apple lied, it's still won't make it a fact that iPhone 6 has bend problem.
 
KdParker said:
This is one guy who made a video where he bent some phones. How is that qualified to get an scandal?

This thing is blown way out of proportion!
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Yep. One guy, one phone. Performing an action that (ruling out Clark Kent) no human pocket on Earth could replicate. His video is also preceded by a Samsung ad. Gee what are the odds?
 
ksuyen said:
Yeah the real world shows that only 0.00009% iPhone 6 has bend problem. Even if you think Apple lied, it's still won't make it a fact that iPhone 6 has bend problem.
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Wise up,


the phone has only been out for a FEW DAYS



Give it a month, then say that again


bendy.jpg
 
Apple: Well I think I know tomorrow's headline. "Local Man Is Liar".
Reporter: Hey, that is a good headline!
 
ksuyen said:
See... this is what I meant. No one is interested in the truth. Truth is boring. I rather believe that iPhone 6+ is not a durable phone out there. I rather believe that as the truth. :roll eyes:
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Truth is that all the other large phones are plastic and plastic is more resisting to bending than aluminium. Has nothing to do with 'truth' but simple facts. I love the 6+ and actually ordered one 5 minutes ago. Still, don't like to pretend that all of this is a non-issue, just because the Apple PR machine tells me so. Aluminium bends more easily than plastic or glass and I obviously have to adjust the way I handle my new phone. Period.
 
All eyes on Apple, the world's most popular tech brand. Figures things tend to blow out of proportion. Everyone likes a juicy Apple report.

Oh and here's a Sony Xperia Z no one ever heard about:

Xperia-Z1-frame-bending-for-no-reason-claim-users.jpg
 
Aluminum213 said:
Apple has NEVER gone into damage control like this, they must be panicking hard at Cupertino
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They have no choice really. If they don't answer at all, the story continues to grow. If they answer, folks like you think it means they are panicking. Such is the life of a big company in the focus of everyone. Take advantage of these "screwups" though and buy the stock, today's 3.88% drop is ripe time to pick up more.
 
KellydenAdel said:


Ignorant statement indeed.


Formal testing doesnt often replicate real world testing


ALL ENGINEERS know this fact.


wise up.
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ksuyen said:
Yeah the real world shows that only 0.00009% iPhone 6 has bend problem. Even if you think Apple lied, it's still won't make it a fact that iPhone 6 has bend problem.
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+1

Someone just got served. Sick burn!

Looks like KellydenAdel is the one who needs to "wise up".
 
linuxcooldude said:
I would trust the calibrated test equipment more then bendboy who is likely looking for youtube hits.
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I actually do calibration in engineering in the real world every day.

I test and check things to official international standards.
I don't make up my own test with my own tolerance and decide if it's ok or not. I pass of fail something based upon standards set in stone that everyone works to.

Without this a test means zero.
 
richdruitt said:
For all the people here that stick up for Apple, as if they don't make mistakes, Apple has made some enormous mistakes in its history. Almost every company has.

The key to a good company, is to not immediately blame its customers, like Jobs did when he claimed people were holding their iPhone the wrong way. The whole point of making devices like this, is to get out there and see how real people use them.

Sometimes Apple comes up with some incredibly beautiful designs, but sometimes, they also just don't adequately test these designs, like the Power Mac G4 Cube that had issues with its outer case cracking. Or the iPhone 3G antenna problems.

There are quite a few problems Apple products have faced over the years. It's not that Apple stuffs up more than any other company, it's that their stuff ups seem to be more spectacular than most other companies. They also seem to be linked to a lack of real world testing by real people, rather than lab rats from the company. There's also an expectation from most customers that aren't die hard fanboys, that because the products cost considerably more than competitors, that those products will be considerably better quality.
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While there may be some people who irrationally defend apple, what is it with the huge number of you "Join Date: Sept 2014" people who are so critical of apple. I'm afraid I'm going to have to heavily discount anything you have to say when it looks like you just opened an account to attack apple.

I don't know what the true situation is yet. I have been keeping my 6+ in my pocket and so far everything is fine. Maybe there are more than 9 people who complained to apple, but why are you so quick to give the benefit of the doubt to anything negative?

And I completely disagree about the magnitude of apple's problems. Even attennagate turned out to be not that big a deal.
 
Summary:

~1 The only thing bent is the reporting style of this (non) "issue".

~2 The only people coming out of this looking dubious, are the ones who spread the muck, because sensationlism = traffic = $$$$.

~3 The people who come out on top, are APPLE, for openly inviting the press (IE: select press folk, who they trust not to be utter goons and twist the story, once they've left - it's not a "conspiracy" you idiots).

Apple ARE being honest... now could we please have all these "journalists" inviting people to THEIR "test labs" to see how they did it?

Yeah... well I won't hold my breath for that :D


#fud #trolling #hightraffic #adrevenue #dishonestreporting
 
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