Lets not get to the lack of physical keyboard shortcuts, not everyone wants to memorize all of the smart keyboard commands especially those who are not use to the macbook commands.
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Apple is ripping us off
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So you hate the Keyboard for the price, not its form
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Nicely said
Your reasoning is off-base. These aren't necessities. A cell phone and some sort of computer are necessities in today's world. Apple-branded versions are not.
Insurance and pharma? Those are pretty expensive and important things. The opportunity cost of forgoing those can be pretty severe, certainly more severe than forgoing the latest iPad purchase.
Verizon and AT&T get pounded because people loathe carriers, and in my experience, it's with good reason. What customer-friendly innovations have they brought to the table? What cool stuff has Verizon done lately, other than invent new surcharges?
And last time I checked, consumers aren't praising apple for their high prices. Most level-headed people see them for what they are. These are luxury goods in a marketplace where many cheaper alternatives exist. Complaining about Apple's prices is like complaining about the cost of a BMW while simultaneously turning your nose up at the very thought of owning a used Accord.
I do think there is a staggering level of entitlement in some of these posts, and I say that as somebody who has been increasingly disappointed with Apple as of late. The difference is that I don't waste my time being outraged about the price of their products, with the implication being that I MUST HAVE these things at a price I can afford.
I would agree that there is a difference between needs and want. I would slightly disagree about carriers. AT&T and Verizon did an outstanding job of building out a great network across the US while trying to stay ahead the explosion in smartphone usage.
I also agree that I'm increasingly disappointed with Apple as of late. Charging a premium was great when they wowed us with innovative high products that 'just worked' and world class customer service. The GPS unit in my iPhone 6 died 17 months after I got it. (and one month before it's paid off through AT&T Next.) As someone who runs 80-100 miles per month, using the Endomondo to track all of my running activity is important to me. It ticks me off that premium price device doesn't work...and based on what the Genius Bar told me, this GPS something that's unusual for them to see.
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Mind, health insurance is mandatory now unless you can somehow provide proof of hardship. If you don't have health insurance, you could be paying penalty of 2% of gross income. Granted, after paying an $80K hospital bill (which was thankfully reimbursed by insurance), the premiums are well worth it.
Yes, exactly.
This. No one is PRAISING Apple for raising the price, so you can spout pom poms, apologist, kool-aid etc over and over.
People who have to resort to immature name calling are just trolls who will find any fault with Apple for simply being Apple no matter what they do.
People are merely REASONABLE and get that a company is out for profits and it's a luxury item not a necessity in life. If you don't like the price or cannot comfortably afford it in your budget DON'T BUT IT. Period really.
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I agree they're ripping us off. My 9.7" 256 GB Wi-Fi + Cellular iPP, with Apple Care, Apple Pencil, Smart Keyboard and Silicone Case cost $1,546.15 including taxes! The worst part is after seeing and using mine, my wife who already has the iPad Air 2 has ordered the same thing I got except her's will be silver and mine is space gray. Oh, I guess it doesn't matter that this is the best tablet either one of us have ever used...
Isn't it ironic? If you were raped by a company; instead of filing a police report about the crime, you go and let them rape you twice in a row. Love the rational thinking
in Canada where I live for just the ipad alone it was also around $1400.
It's overpriced but it's also quite the luxury tablet.
Don't cha thinkIsn't it ironic? If you were raped by a company; instead of filing a police report about the crime, you go and let them rape you twice in a row. Love the rational thinking
What amazes me about the Apple defenders, is that they can't comprehend how someone can like 90% of what Apple does, but tries to "fight" for Apple to fix that last 10%.
And again, the Apple defenders typical response is "Apple never listens, you are a fool".
To which the Critical thinking Apple fan responds with, "the iPhone SE"
*Mic Drop*
I suspect that has more to do with the 30 million 4-inch iPhones sold in 2015 rather than complaints in forums. Money talks.
So the iPhone SE is the child inspired by the forum whingers and nothing to do with the massive hole in the market they knew they weren't addressing then?
Nothing to do with forum whiners like those here who whine for the sake of whining. Demand with wallets for 4 inch phones showed it needed to be made.
Forum whining solves notta. Dont buy and convince your friends not to buy and so one down the line (which likely isn't still close to enough to influence Apple). Sales is the only thing that will talk.
Forum whining solves notta. Dont buy and convince your friends not to buy and so one down the line (which likely isn't still close to enough to influence Apple). Sales is the only thing that will talk.
Multiple whiner references.
My, the Tim is strong with you two.
Congrats.
Ever find anything to criticize Apple about? Ever?
My, the Tim is strong with you two.
Congrats.
Ever find anything to criticize Apple about? Ever?
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If you keep your eyes peeled for other posts I make, yes, when its fair and justified.
Indeed in this very thread I've already mentioned more than once that their pricing structure and penny pinching for more than one product is ridiculous beyond what it ever has been.
Do your research before you resort to childish behaviour I'd reprimand a four year old for.
You mean like calling someone else a whiner, to start this whole thing?
So you get to point out things that annoy you about Apple, but others cannot, or else they get labeled a whiner.
I think I have all I need to know, to end this.
good bye.
Actually I was specifically referring to your rather poor schoolyard level comment.
I'm all for people expressing an actual valid opinion. As I've said on these forums many, many times, each of us has a personal preference which cannot be argued with. Because it's a personal, individual perspective, that applies only to a single individual.
The sharing of experiences by individuals, regardless of what side of the fence they sit on can prove useful to other people. Provided of course that they are based on factual information.
That's the very nature of debate, it requires at least two perspectives. Statements such as "my the Tim is strong in you" are just childish and provide nothing of any value whatsoever.
But if that's you're level of communication then I apologise, I'll try and dumb down my responses for you.
Come on fellas - take a chill pill and relax a bit. The weather is great - enjoy the sunshine and take pleasure in owning apple stuff. Life is too short to be all serious about anything. Just 4 months left until iPhone 7 - when they finally release it without a headphone jack, we can then continue on "debating"
Don't buy one then. If no one buys them because they're over-priced, apple will reduce the price.
I don't think they'll reduce the price.
Maybe not the MSRP but I've seen authorized retailers offer significant discounts on iPads. That used to be unheard of. If one were willing to wait a couple of months, I reckon one would be able to get a nice discount.
Come on fellas - take a chill pill and relax a bit. The weather is great - enjoy the sunshine and take pleasure in owning apple stuff. Life is too short to be all serious about anything. Just 4 months left until iPhone 7 - when they finally release it without a headphone jack, we can then continue on "debating"
Ahhhh, sunshine, I vaguely remember that from my childhood (Scotland, we call it the strange light in the sky.)
If there's no headphone jack you know what, I'm gonna, well I'll, ach I'll buy the bloody thing anyway (Bonus, excuse to buy new headphones, I can see the conversation flow already. Honestly dear, they're essential I cant very well get the new iPhone without them. What? No I wont just not buy the phone.)
It's not reassuring to see the Apple defenders accuse those questioning Apple as trolls and accusing them of using immature language when you see the defenders call them whiners and well, trolls! It's unnecessary for people to blindly defend Apple still in this day and age when they're the biggest company in the world! This isn't 2000 anymore, they're not the niche company with the small devoted following anymore trying to battle against the Microsoft behemoth. Apple aren't perfect, they get some things wrong that disappoint customers and those people raise it. And for doing that they're rounded on by the usual suspects who themselves go into a childlike huff telling them well if you don't like it don't buy it and then go into an irrelevant tangent about company's maximising profits!
Vast majority of people who raise the issues with Apple, especially on a forum like this are already Apple customers.
Vast majority of people who raise the issues with Apple, especially on a forum like this are already Apple customers.
Just by using terms such as "Apple defender" you are venturing into the same territory as those you seek to accuse.
But putting that aside because such, let's politely call them debates, are utterly pointless at the end of the day and achieve nothing constructive.
There's a world of difference between being an "Apple defender" and a person who's made an informed decision and, God forbid, purchased products they are happy with and consider to be value for money.
I'm not now, not ever have, saying everything Apple *%!# don't stink. There's several current decisions Apple have made that I think are beyond reproach. But rather than complain about these things, I just don't buy them. Thereby negating any need to create threads such as this. (As much as I relish a good debate
)But the reality is quite simple. Apple are ripping off no-one. They are forcing no-one to purchase anything that they don't want to. It would be very different if Apple were making accessories, for example, that were required in order for their main line products to work. Or if there were no alternatives at all, that would be an unfair manipulation of a monopoly. But that's not the case now, nor ever has been. There is freedom of choice and that's the crucial thing.
They set a price and leave it to us to decide if we think it offers good value for money.
Regardless of how much profit Apple makes from any item, that's how business is supposed to work, charge the most money you can get away with. If you purchase anything while thinking it's not value for money *to you* then more fool you, you should leave well alone. Vote with your wallet and purchase alternative items.
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Sorry for waffling on, no sleep for three days and enough morphine to kill a Calvary will do that to you
Ahh, but calling people with dissenting points a view a "whinger"(sic) is A-OK? Sorry, your high an mighty stance does not hold up to scrutiny, which is why you received the "Tim" comment.
You can't have it both ways.
Well, I guess you can try - obviously.
