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Apple now facing at least 8 class-action lawsuits over slowing down older iPhones

Apple now faces at least eight U.S. class-action suits charging that it defrauded iPhone users by slowing the devices without warning to compensate for poor battery performance — just a week after the tech giant opened up about the year-old software change

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/12...lawsuits-over-slowing-down-older-iphones.html


A lawsuit in France for the battery of the iPhone

https://translate.googleusercontent...e.html&usg=ALkJrhga_IYviLj2apdjvecf2cJX4uWWvg


After the announcement of the first class action less than a week ago, no fewer than 10 lawsuits have been launched in the United States. In France, the HOP / Halte a l'obsolescence programmée association has announced that it has filed a complaint against Apple for planned obsolescence.
 
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https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/28/lawsuit-apple-execs-jail-battery-performace/
A French environmental group has hit Apple with litigation over alleged planned obsolescence. If found guilty, Apple executives could actually face jail time in addition to millions in fines.

Yeah baby! Keep pouring it on guys!!!
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Make sure these slimy execs get the message not to even think about screwing with customer devices via planned obsolescence updates ever again!
 
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Apple now facing at least 8 class-action lawsuits over slowing down older iPhones

Apple now faces at least eight U.S. class-action suits charging that it defrauded iPhone users by slowing the devices without warning to compensate for poor battery performance — just a week after the tech giant opened up about the year-old software change

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/12...lawsuits-over-slowing-down-older-iphones.html


A lawsuit in France for the battery of the iPhone

https://translate.googleusercontent...e.html&usg=ALkJrhga_IYviLj2apdjvecf2cJX4uWWvg


After the announcement of the first class action less than a week ago, no fewer than 10 lawsuits have been launched in the United States. In France, the HOP / Halte a l'obsolescence programmée association has announced that it has filed a complaint against Apple for planned obsolescence.


Yes please, put Tim Cook in jail. That would put the fire under his rear end
 
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For those that think they all do it.

HTC, Motorola claim to not follow Apple in throttling CPU performance as batteries age | 9to5Google - 9to5google.com https://9to5google.com/2017/12/28/htc-motorola-not-throttling-cpu-battery-apple/

From the link ....

Given that this practices has already garnered several lawsuits against Apple, comments from all the major Android vendors will begin to paint a picture of whether performance throttling is a widespread practice in the smartphone industry. If it isn’t, Apple would be the standout and it would beg asking why the other companies are seemingly immune

Yes, why are other companies' phones immune from the sudden shutdown with old batteries? :)
 
We've got amazing pocket-computers full of all sorts of advanced tech... but you need to change the battery after a year or so.

Will physical maintenance become a common thing in smartphones?

Like changing spark plugs in a car after so many miles?

:p

That would be fine IF phone batteries could be easily user replaced. On another note, Apple is blaming all of this on the battery. Behind closed doors they may have planned this throttling thing to light a fire under the users pants so they will go right out and buy the next latest and greatest Apple phone. If you recall with iPhone 3G it was perfectly capable of recording video. But Apple intentionally disabled that function and instead brought out the 3Gs model which miraculously recorded video. Apple should stop playing games with their cheerleaders who believe that no matter what Professor Cook has their best interests at heart and is not beholdened to its shareholders.
 
If you recall with iPhone 3G it was perfectly capable of recording video. But Apple intentionally disabled that function and instead brought out the 3Gs model which miraculously recorded video.

Remember how the iPhone 4 had hardware which was perfectly capable of handling Siri too? Yet it was intentionally held back so Apple could gimp the previous years model and give an artificial reason to upgrade to the 4s.
 
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Remember how the iPhone 4 had hardware which was perfectly capable of handling Siri too? Yet it was intentionally held back so Apple could gimp the previous years model and give an artificial reason to upgrade to the 4s.
Remember how it was also more than just about being able to handle it but also about microphones and noise cancellation?
 
They’re only doing it so you feel obligated to upgrade to their newest model. Otherwise they’d tell you to replace your battery and not keep this information hidden.

Now it makes sense as to why the Geniuses at the Apple store refuse to replace your battery unless it’s at 80% capacity, even at your own expense. They tell your it’s because of environmental concerns...
 
A Message to Our Customers

December 28, 2017

We’ve been hearing feedback from our customers about the way we handle performance for iPhones with older batteries and how we have communicated that process. We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize. There’s been a lot of misunderstanding about this issue, so we would like to clarify and let you know about some changes we’re making.

First and foremost, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades. Our goal has always been to create products that our customers love, and making iPhones last as long as possible is an important part of that.

How batteries age

All rechargeable batteries are consumable components that become less effective as they chemically age and their ability to hold a charge diminishes. Time and the number of times a battery has been charged are not the only factors in this chemical aging process.

Device use also affects the performance of a battery over its lifespan. For example, leaving or charging a battery in a hot environment can cause a battery to age faster. These are characteristics of battery chemistry, common to lithium-ion batteries across the industry.

A chemically aged battery also becomes less capable of delivering peak energy loads, especially in a low state of charge, which may result in a device unexpectedly shutting itself down in some situations.

To help customers learn more about iPhone’s rechargeable battery and the factors affecting its performance, we’ve posted a new support article, iPhone Battery and Performance.

It should go without saying that we think sudden, unexpected shutdowns are unacceptable. We don’t want any of our users to lose a call, miss taking a picture or have any other part of their iPhone experience interrupted if we can avoid it.

Preventing unexpected shutdowns

About a year ago in iOS 10.2.1, we delivered a software update that improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, and iPhone SE. With the update, iOS dynamically manages the maximum performance of some system components when needed to prevent a shutdown. While these changes may go unnoticed, in some cases users may experience longer launch times for apps and other reductions in performance.

Customer response to iOS 10.2.1 was positive, as it successfully reduced the occurrence of unexpected shutdowns. We recently extended the same support for iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus in iOS 11.2.

Of course, when a chemically aged battery is replaced with a new one, iPhone performance returns to normal when operated in standard conditions.

Recent user feedback

Over the course of this fall, we began to receive feedback from some users who were seeing slower performance in certain situations. Based on our experience, we initially thought this was due to a combination of two factors: a normal, temporary performance impact when upgrading the operating system as iPhone installs new software and updates apps, and minor bugs in the initial release which have since been fixed.

We now believe that another contributor to these user experiences is the continued chemical aging of the batteries in older iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s devices, many of which are still running on their original batteries.

Addressing customer concerns

We’ve always wanted our customers to be able to use their iPhones as long as possible. We’re proud that Apple products are known for their durability, and for holding their value longer than our competitors’ devices.

To address our customers’ concerns, to recognize their loyalty and to regain the trust of anyone who may have doubted Apple’s intentions, we’ve decided to take the following steps:

Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com.
Early in 2018, we will issue an iOS software update with new features that give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone’s battery, so they can see for themselves if its condition is affecting performance.
As always, our team is working on ways to make the user experience even better, including improving how we manage performance and avoid unexpected shutdowns as batteries age.
At Apple, our customers’ trust means everything to us. We will never stop working to earn and maintain it. We are able to do the work we love only because of your faith and support — and we will never forget that or take it for granted.
 
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The throttling kicks in on some phones when your battery percentage is around 50-60.

Source?

And if longetiivty was the objective why are the iPads and Macs not throttled? Simply because Apple knows they are sales sensitive areas.

Correct. They need to sell more iPhones. The iPad is not a status symbol. The throttling was intentional to drive up sales.
 
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A Message to Our Customers

December 28, 2017
...
To address our customers’ concerns, to recognize their loyalty and to regain the trust of anyone who may have doubted Apple’s intentions, we’ve decided to take the following steps:

Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com.
Early in 2018, we will issue an iOS software update with new features that give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone’s battery, so they can see for themselves if its condition is affecting performance.
As always, our team is working on ways to make the user experience even better, including improving how we manage performance and avoid unexpected shutdowns as batteries age.
At Apple, our customers’ trust means everything to us. We will never stop working to earn and maintain it. We are able to do the work we love only because of your faith and support — and we will never forget that or take it for granted.

So those of us who had to replace TWO different iPhone 6 batteries this summer at Batteries+Bulbs, AFTER Apple refused to replace them there at above 80%, and paid $79 each with the 3rd party, are SOL.
 
We all know batteries degrade over time. They get weaker, won't hold a charge as long but still work just for a lesser amount of time. Why is it that only iPhones it seems supposedly have a problem with the internals if it suddenly shuts down due to battery weakness. Why does every other device including macbooks and ipads , windows phones(R.I.P.), and all androids to name a few just shut down from a weak battery yet are fine, nothing bad happens and the user just plugs in and keeps on truckin' ? I've never had my macbook slow down or have any problem other than needing to be plugged in. Same with all my androids over previous years and currently.
Before this code was conveniently inserted in an update iPhones would just shut off if the battery got weak, plug in and it's all good again. Suddenly it's not good for the phone? Or suddenly we are thinking of our customers maybe dropping a call due to phone shut down? Right, I'm sure that's it.
Also, nice discount on a new battery replacement, nice Apple is being soooo good to us. What if the cheaper battery replacement is denied because it passes the genius test? No discounted battery for you! Come back in another few months and oh, enjoy your throttle.
This whole thing just stinks and reeks of a blatant cash grab by a greedy corporation. Did ya all hear the nice fat bonus Cook got? Unbelievable! My iphone's off and in a drawer, gotta conserve battery ;)
 
Time to get all the batteries in all my iPhones replaced. $30 is a steal. Unfortunately their diags don’t detect a problem unless battery level is below 80% so throttlegate is still an issue.
 
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Exactly, they throttle them with more than 80% but wont replace them until they are below 80% - still suckage in Appleland.

You can bet they will now lower the threshold even further. Now they are offering batteries at concessional rates expect health level to be lower to 50-60% from 80. Nice marketing move by Apple for damage control while still retaining revenue.
 
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Android OEMs have come out clean on this

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple


HTC and Motorola say they don’t slow old phones like Apple does



HTC and Motorola say they don’t throttle their phones’ processor speeds as their batteries age, something Apple last week acknowledged doing to prevent errors after iPhone owners documented slowdowns. In emails to The Verge, both companies said they do not employ similar practices with their smartphones. An HTC spokesperson said that designing phones to slow down their processor as their battery ages “is not something we do.” A Motorola spokesperson said, “We do not throttle CPU performance based on older batteries.”

The Verge also reached out to Google, Samsung, LG, and Sony for comment on whether their phone processors are throttled in response to aging batteries. A Sony spokesperson said a response would be delayed by the holidays, and a Samsung spokesperson said the company was looking into it.
 
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Android OEMs have come out clean on this

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple


HTC and Motorola say they don’t slow old phones like Apple does



HTC and Motorola say they don’t throttle their phones’ processor speeds as their batteries age, something Apple last week acknowledged doing to prevent errors after iPhone owners documented slowdowns. In emails to The Verge, both companies said they do not employ similar practices with their smartphones. An HTC spokesperson said that designing phones to slow down their processor as their battery ages “is not something we do.” A Motorola spokesperson said, “We do not throttle CPU performance based on older batteries.”

The Verge also reached out to Google, Samsung, LG, and Sony for comment on whether their phone processors are throttled in response to aging batteries. A Sony spokesperson said a response would be delayed by the holidays, and a Samsung spokesperson said the company was looking into it.
Interesting how a comment from some of those companies is trustworthy, but when Apple says something then there's usually some malicious motivation that must be somewhere behind whatever it is that they say and they certainly can't be taken at their word.
 
Interesting how a comment from some of those companies is trustworthy, but when Apple says something then there's usually some malicious motivation that must be somewhere behind whatever it is that they say.

It’s simple. You can’t hide any devious practice on Android. Everything is open and easily discoverable hence these companies just can’t hide anything. The advantage of software and hardware made by different companies.
 
Interesting how a comment from some of those companies is trustworthy, but when Apple says something then there's usually some malicious motivation that must be somewhere behind whatever it is that they say and they certainly can't be taken at their word.

Context is very important in reading into these responses. To the users saying Apple wasn’t malicious or didn’t have malicious motivation why would the apologize if they did nothing wrong?
 
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