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Interesting how a comment from some of those companies is trustworthy, but when Apple says something then there's usually some malicious motivation that must be somewhere behind whatever it is that they say and they certainly can't be taken at their word.
Apple did not say anything about this. They tried to hide it like a Trojan horse and they were caught by customers. Any word they now say is suspect. I even expect their new battery health feature to be fudged so that it will only show a problem at 60% health way after a phone throttling begins. Thank God for coconut battery. This is a direct fallout of the 11 lawsuits filed worldwide. Apple found it cheaper to reduce battery prices then fight those court cases.
 
Context is very important in reading into these responses. To the users saying Apple wasn’t malicious or didn’t have malicious motivation why would the apologize if they did nothing wrong?
Are you saying in the real world there are (and have been) no aplolgoes or giving in even when someone might not be at fault for something? Or, more relevantly, that it somehow points to one particular malicious interpretation of it all.
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It’s simple. You can’t hide any devious practice on Android. Everything is open and easily discoverable hence these companies just can’t hide anything. The advantage of software and hardware made by different companies.
Running a benchmark or checking the CPU frequency using readily available apps in iOS is truly complex.
 
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The home button delay is also intentional. Now I have no doubts whatsoever after seeing this whole fiasco through.
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Are you saying in the real world there are (and have been) no aplolgoes or giving in even when someone might not be at fault for something? Or, more relevantly, that it somehow points to one particular malicious interpretation of it all.
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Running a benchmark or checking the CPU frequency using readily available apps in iOS is truly complex.
The battery apps on the store don't work hence hence the user has no idea the slowdown is because of battery. I would argue even Geekbench will no longer be a reliable tool in the future. Apple could easily rig iOS so that when Geekbench is detected the processor is put in a high performance state just like how Samsung did years ago.
 
The home button delay is also intentional. Now I have no doubts whatsoever after seeing this whole fiasco through.
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The battery apps on the store don't work hence hence the user has no idea the slowdown is because of battery. I would argue even Geekbench will no longer be a reliable tool in the future. Apple could easily rig iOS so that when Geekbench is detected the processor is put in a high performance state just like how Samsung did years ago.
And yet there they are those readily available simple to obtain and use apps that show the effects. Certainly so well hidden and harder to spot than anything in Android.
 
The home button delay is also intentional. Now I have no doubts whatsoever after seeing this whole fiasco through.
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The battery apps on the store don't work hence hence the user has no idea the slowdown is because of battery. I would argue even Geekbench will no longer be a reliable tool in the future. Apple could easily rig iOS so that when Geekbench is detected the processor is put in a high performance state just like how Samsung did years ago.

And Dieselgate was like that.
 
Don't think anywhere even remotely close to "almost all of them" applied to iPhone 6s phones that were suffering from unexpected shutdowns.

But it did for

iMac 17”/20” 2005 power supplies
MacBook 2006-2008 cracking top cases, inverters, and display bezels, seagate hard drives like every part
MacBook Pro 2011 gpus
MacBook Pro 2.2/2.4ghz gpus
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I also have reservations about that $29 battey quality. Will they lower their QC standards so that the customer is back in 1 year to pay $80
Nah it’s what they actually cost more likely
 
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The home button delay is also intentional. Now I have no doubts whatsoever after seeing this whole fiasco through.
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The battery apps on the store don't work hence hence the user has no idea the slowdown is because of battery. I would argue even Geekbench will no longer be a reliable tool in the future. Apple could easily rig iOS so that when Geekbench is detected the processor is put in a high performance state just like how Samsung did years ago.
I think if you feel so wronged by Apple then you should return your iPhone and get a different phone. All you are doing is enabling if you continue to complain and buy them at the same time.
 
And yet there they are those readily available simple to obtain and use apps that show the effects. Certainly so well hidden and harder to spot than anything in Android.
What I and many were saying so far is that the slowdown was mainly due to lack of optimisation. Linking battery Wear to throttling was certainly very clever and they clearly tried to hide it by not telling the customers that from this release onwards iPhone 7 would be throttled. It required someone to run Geekbench in the mid 60s of battery level and to run coconut battery and to replace the battery in question to find out.

As of right now you can't stop the throttling on your phone. On Android if some manufacturer tried to do this, it's still possible to override the instructions and CPU monitoring is built into the OS itself in developer options st the flick of a toggle. That's the main difference. Throttling can be disabled on Android.

"No, Apple is apologizing for something it did intentionally without telling customers about it. What Apple is apologizing for isn't a bug; it's a feature.

Now that it's been caught, Apple has basically been cornered into making the consumer-friendly moves it should have made in the first place. For the next 12 months, it will replace the batteries in customers' iPhones for $29 each, instead of the previous charge of $79. And its iOS operating system will get new features that will allow users to monitor the health of their batteries."

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-battery-apology-could-change-everything-2017-12
 
I am surprised that they throttled the 7 too. Geez - it is barely over a year old, not sure why that would have battery issues already. That is really disappointing they would do that and really makes you question there ethics and phone quality if they are doing this to a one model year old phone.

Makes you wonder what other equipment they were doing this too? Ipads, Macbooks, etc....
 
What I and many were saying so far is that the slowdown was mainly due to lack of optimisation. Linking battery Wear to throttling was certainly very clever and they clearly tried to hide it by not telling the customers that from this release onwards iPhone 7 would be throttled. It required someone to run Geekbench in the mid 60s of battery level and to run coconut battery and to replace the battery in question to find out.

As of right now you can't stop the throttling on your phone. On Android if some manufacturer tried to do this, it's still possible to override the instructions and CPU monitoring is built into the OS itself in developer options st the flick of a toggle. That's the main difference. Throttling can be disabled on Android.

"No, Apple is apologizing for something it did intentionally without telling customers about it. What Apple is apologizing for isn't a bug; it's a feature.

Now that it's been caught, Apple has basically been cornered into making the consumer-friendly moves it should have made in the first place. For the next 12 months, it will replace the batteries in customers' iPhones for $29 each, instead of the previous charge of $79. And its iOS operating system will get new features that will allow users to monitor the health of their batteries."

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-battery-apology-could-change-everything-2017-12
That's not what your earlier post about being able to notice it in Android said. This is something else, a deflection, as usual.
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I am surprised that they throttled the 7 too. Geez - it is barely over a year old, not sure why that would have battery issues already. That is really disappointing they would do that and really makes you question there ethics and phone quality if they are doing this to a one model year old phone.

Makes you wonder what other equipment they were doing this too? Ipads, Macbooks, etc....
It's enabled for that line of phones in case there are some devices that might have degraded batteries due to something (perhaps being left out in the heat or some other unusual usage, for example). It's not that all, or most, or even many of those devices are in fact throttled.
 
That's not what your earlier post about being able to notice it in Android said. This is something else, a deflection, as usual.
Yes you can’t notice it because the wear apps on the store don’t work. All you will see is lower geekbench score and that too only at a specified battery percentage If you bring it to the store their diags will show a normal battery.

You have absolutely no way to find out your battery is the problem. This is not the case on Android where wear apps actually worked last time I checked and cpu monitoring is built into the OS and doesn’t need geekbench.
 
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Yes you can’t notice it because the wear apps on the store don’t work. All you will see is lower geekbench score and that too only at a specified battery percentage If you bring it to the store their diags will show a normal battery.

You have absolutely no way to find out your battery is the problem. This is not the case on Android where every app in the store works and cpu monitoring is built into the OS and doesn’t need geekbench.
So you are confirming that you can see the throttling.
 
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That's not what your earlier post about being able to notice it in Android said. This is something else, a deflection, as usual.
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It's enabled for that line of phones in case there are some devices that might have degraded batteries due to something (perhaps being left out in the heat or some other unusual usage, for example). It's not that all, or most, or even many of those devices are in fact throttled.

Apple’s letter makes it clear all older iPhones are affected. The power management is now enabled on all phones till the iPhone 7. The degree to which it’s being used depends. If your wear Level is 98% or so there will be slight amount of throttling which won’t show up on Geekbench but may happen while executing other tasks. If your battery is in the 80s then your phone may be throttled permanently.

The degree of power management depends. But it’s there.
 
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Apple’s letter makes it clear all older iPhones are affected. The power management is now enabled on all phones till the iPhone 7. The degree to which it’s being used depends. If your wear Level is 98% or so there will be slight amount of throttling which won’t show up on Geekbench but may happen while executing other tasks. If your battery is in the 80s then your phone may be throttled permanently.

The degree of power management depends. But it’s there.
Ah, so when there's no throttling happening and there's no even evidence of it at low battery degradation, it's happening anyway. How surprising that conspiracies have gone down that path.
 
Apple did not say anything about this. They tried to hide it like a Trojan horse and they were caught by customers. Any word they now say is suspect. I even expect their new battery health feature to be fudged so that it will only show a problem at 60% health way after a phone throttling begins. Thank God for coconut battery. This is a direct fallout of the 11 lawsuits filed worldwide. Apple found it cheaper to reduce battery prices then fight those court cases.

They didn't hide it:
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/23/apple-unexpected-iphone-6-shutdowns-solved/
 
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