How many times will it take for Apple to mess up before its legion of fans look at them as the company they are vs the fantasy they hold?
I'm not saying Apple isn't a good company. I'm just curious how long this halo effect can/will last.
Why do you care what ppl think of apple? Do you own stock in a competitor?
I'm just trying to wrap my head around why it matters to you if Apple has fans?
ok but i'm talking about end user products.
Maybe you missed the post I was replying to.
Who says that I care?
Who says it matters?
It was a question.
but you said "I'm just curious", yet that means you don't care? You weren't expecting an answer to your question, because you don't care and you were basically talking to yourself?
Weird...
Yes. Curiosity does not equal that I care one way or the other. Nor does it mean I didn't expect an answer.
I can be curious what people ate for dinner. That doesn't mean I care. Nor does it mean I wouldn't expect an answer.
Weird that you don't understand.
Obviously they new about all of the issues. They aren't stupid. For whatever reason, they decided to go ahead and release it anyway. You may say that it was a stupid idea to release it, but you can be sure they new what they were doing.
I want google maps back. I used the new iOS6 maps yesterday to navigate to 2 known places. It was off by 5 miles to one location and 1 mile on the other. This is not acceptable.
You must be jesting. Nokia has worse satellite imagery than Apple!
Nokia's maps are accurate though. It's the same data Garmin uses so it will make a good satnav.
For spite, google should have said screw it and made google maps exclusive to android. Probably would have stolen a tiny market share if apple doesnt get its act together.
I never used a turn by turn app before because I never needed one, but aren't Waze and Mapquest actually free and were better than the old map app in the first place?
Steve was a perfectionist. I find it hard to believe he would have let this happen. Sometimes I think Tim et al should ask themselves "what would Steve do?" then maybe we wouldn't have problems like this. Am I the only one who really doesn't like the way Tim is changing things at Apple?
This is officially the first major Apple screwup since SJ passed away. Schiller and Forstall are a bunch of bozos for releasing this POS that clearly wasn't ready to replace Google Maps.
A lot of people are assuming that Apple drove the timing of this release. It very well could have been Google.
My guess is that the bundling contract was up for renewal and Google said something like:
1. Pay more this time,
2. No new features,
3. No better API access.
So, it is very plausible that Apple would have been forced pay more for the same stagnant Maps app that would not allow the increased location services integration they are pushing for, or they could call Google's bluff. I think they bit the bullet. I bet they would have much rather partner with Google, but that would require Google stop being a hostile partner.
Google sells phones. Google Maps is one of the biggest marketed S/W features on Android phones. Apple's Google Maps royalties are gravy for Google. Google had no reason to improve the Maps app, and every reason not to. The data is shared by all Google Maps products, or I bet that would have been degraded, too.
Or 4 Google was tired of taking the blame for the lack of features in the Map App and how crappy it was compared to the web.
If they were tired of it, they would have released a full featured map app 3 years ago.I bet they were always quite happy with it that Android had a much better map app.
I'm sure Google didn't want to lose being the default maps on iOS. Google make their living from user data and iDevice users will make up a huge part of that database.
The fact that Google's native app is ready to go and it's simply up to Apple to approve it shows they are very keen to stay.
I reckon Apple are trying to manipulate things how they want them here, at the expense of end users and Google.
We've already been told before that Apple's contract with Google for iOS prohibited Google from launching competiting iOS apps.
Which is why for example with YouTube Google built a better web interface years ago, but couldn't launch a native app until Apple's contract expired.
I know for a fact that the YouTube mobile team were furious about how much **** they got over the iOS YouTube app and that they couldn't do anything about it.
The latest intel states that NO Google App has been submitted.
The latest intel states that NO Google App has been submitted.