Is it the key travel that bothers you or the current failures? I ask because one of those is going to be fixed while the other is by design.
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Apple Launches 2018 MacBook Pros: 8th Gen Core, Up to 32GB of RAM, Third-Gen Keyboard, Quad-Core on 13-Inch and More
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It is a bit curious. Because eGPUs are potentially game changers. I think eGPUs is why the MacBook Pro 15" didn't update the GPU it ships with. I'm suspecting that this gets dealt with in more detail in the next KeyNote. But for now it is somewhat too niche to discuss. The Pros who really need GPU performance will figure the eGPU stuff out themselves. And maybe Apple is saving some of this discussion for its modular Mac Pro unveiling.
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sing 560 (which is a rebranded 460) when Vega is available is crazy and should not happen in 2018, it’s like building in NVIDIA 900 Series in a new Laptop
I suspect there will thin rubber shims that shield the butterfly mechanism from dust/debris, which will also make it quieter.
Interestingly, Huawei offers the Mate X Pro 15" laptop with a 3000x2000 screen resolution.
As per HiDPI, the consumer really needs to consider the native resolution and the screen real estate offered. Apple offers phenomenal clarity on its screens at native resolution, but lacks the screen real estate at that same resolution. It is very disappointing to have to choose between the two when other OEMs are offering beautiful IPS screens 1440, 2k and 4k resolutions.
If the keyboard was fixed, I would say that’s a pretty compelling reason to upgrade. If not this year, definitely in the next couple of years.
I like the new configurations for the 15" and will probably buy one. But, only after a couple of months of people saying the new keyboard is fine.
True Tone is much better on than off if you're worried about color consistency. But if you don't have a color-calibrated screen in a controlled lighting environment, you're not too worried about color management in the first place.
Yes, they are high.
But not too out of line with the PC industry if you compare "premium machines". For instance, my Surface Book 2 (16GB of RAM, Quad Core 8th gen, U series, with 1TB of SSD storage) ran me about $3,300. Add in the Microsoft Complete ($299 I think) and tax and you are over the purchase price of my new Macbook Pro (I did get a 10% EDU discount which bring the two about in line).
Now, granted it has the detachable screen and ability to use as a tablet and to draw on it (which I use and love) -- but for an inferior processor, and less RAM (but more storage) I paid a bit more.
As fewer people buy laptops, I think this is going to keep happening.
I bit and put down the cash.
13" / 2.7 GHz i7 / 1TB / 16GB
That comes to £2,799.00 (or £3,028.00 once AppleCare added) which subjectively feels a bit too high. For me it is about 2x what I paid for an top of the line 15" MBP just over 9 years ago. UK pricing is only going worse though so I cannot see much point waiting further.
I've been using an Lenovo IdeaPad with Ubuntu/Windows dual boot (although mostly in Ubuntu) as a temporary measure which isn't terrible but miss Mac OS X/macOS way too much. Most of the investment is a bet on macOS and what they are doing with Mojave. I don't see a better option emerging any time soon.
I expect they have fixed the keyboard as the timing aligns with the announcement of the service program. The piece of optimism is they have had this design now for three generations so most of the manufacturing kinks should have been ironed out and aside from the keyboard the overall statistics on reliability look good. Which it absolutely should be given it is a very expensive sealed up, locked down computing appliance with no moving parts.
Edit: Cancelled after reading Apple won't acknowledge if the keyboard has been fixed or not. Moreover the service program does not cover these new machines. So back to waiting.
13" / 2.7 GHz i7 / 1TB / 16GB
That comes to £2,799.00 (or £3,028.00 once AppleCare added) which subjectively feels a bit too high. For me it is about 2x what I paid for an top of the line 15" MBP just over 9 years ago. UK pricing is only going worse though so I cannot see much point waiting further.
I've been using an Lenovo IdeaPad with Ubuntu/Windows dual boot (although mostly in Ubuntu) as a temporary measure which isn't terrible but miss Mac OS X/macOS way too much. Most of the investment is a bet on macOS and what they are doing with Mojave. I don't see a better option emerging any time soon.
I expect they have fixed the keyboard as the timing aligns with the announcement of the service program. The piece of optimism is they have had this design now for three generations so most of the manufacturing kinks should have been ironed out and aside from the keyboard the overall statistics on reliability look good. Which it absolutely should be given it is a very expensive sealed up, locked down computing appliance with no moving parts.
Edit: Cancelled after reading Apple won't acknowledge if the keyboard has been fixed or not. Moreover the service program does not cover these new machines. So back to waiting.
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I mean... is Vega availalble? AMD's mobile strategy seems very disjointed.
They were. Considered what you got and what the competitors charged for the same Specks the price was more than fair.
Nowadays Apple ships mediocre Macs for luxery prices while competitors ship better computers for way less.
Yep, I do. The OLED screen takes a significant amount of battery power. As for looking down, without any haptic feedback, and never knowing exactly what's showing, how do you move your hands to it without looking at it?
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Both. I hate the feel. The lack of key travel is IMO not ergonomic, it doesn't cushion fingers enough from repeated impacts. But obviously, the fact that I can't depend on my keyboard to be reliable is what makes me reject buying another Mac with one. This is the basic input device of the machine; it should be extremely reliable, resilient, and comfortable. It has been none of those things.
Like the 6 core, Like the 32GB ram,
REALLY wanted a solid NON Touch Bar version,
REALLY have to see if this "new" keyboard fixes the USAGE issues and not just the design weakness issues.
Going to be $$$, I have a 2015/2016 maxed 15" with AC till 12/2019 that I'm probably not going to part with.
REALLY wanted a solid NON Touch Bar version,
REALLY have to see if this "new" keyboard fixes the USAGE issues and not just the design weakness issues.
Going to be $$$, I have a 2015/2016 maxed 15" with AC till 12/2019 that I'm probably not going to part with.
Like getting a Core 2 Duo Mac for $2500 when the PC competition was offering Quad Cores for $700?
Ok, as many have noted, this update was big downer. Base model was not updated and touch bar is mandatory for new speed bump. Then also 16/512Gt combo raises the price way high. I dare you to compare the specs to Huawei Matebook X Pro, which has even USB-A, touch, MX150 etc. Also beware of the new keyboard, Apple has said that they haven't fixed the existing issues, its just better feeling and sounding.
"This new third-generation keyboard wasn’t designed to solve those issues, Apple says. In fact, company representatives strenuously insisted that the keyboard issues have only affected a tiny, tiny fraction of its user base. (There’s now a four-year repair program for the keyboard in case it fails.)"
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone
"This new third-generation keyboard wasn’t designed to solve those issues, Apple says. In fact, company representatives strenuously insisted that the keyboard issues have only affected a tiny, tiny fraction of its user base. (There’s now a four-year repair program for the keyboard in case it fails.)"
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone
This is literally the first time I’ve seen someone claim that an OLED screen is a big power draw.
Intel hasn’t released any later CPUs for the 13” non Touch Bar than it already uses. When Intel releases 8th generation CPUs the nTB can use, Apple will update it.
Surely it doesn’t make sense to hold off the 13/15” Touch Bar updates just because there’s nothing available yet for the 13” non-TB.