Apple Launches 2018 MacBook Pros: 8th Gen Core, Up to 32GB of RAM, Third-Gen Keyboard, Quad-Core on 13-Inch and More

[Rogifan]

Yeah, they did say its quieter but does that mean the mechanisms were changed to be more resilient to debris?

Nick Guy (@thenickguy)
7/12/18, 7:55 AM
⁦‪@marcoarment‬⁩ From Verge: “This new third-generation keyboard wasn’t designed to solve those issues, Apple says. In fact, company representatives strenuously insisted that the keyboard issues have only affected a tiny, tiny fraction of its user base.”

This tells me that John Gruber’s source might be right in that the issue was with a parts supplier product not being to spec vs. a specific flaw in the keyboard design. Also Apple would have the stats on how many users were affected. It does them no good to lie about it.

 

[Dryland]

Yep, time to upgrade. 2015 12 inch MacBook was fun, but I'm going bigger this time.

 

[maflynn]

No, but they laptops now come with a slip of paper in the box highlighting that keyboard issues are covered for four years.

That might be for the 2017 models, but given that this was just announced we have no idea if the 2018 model will be covered. There's also the fact that if it does fail, I'll lose time due to repair turn around. So while it may not cost my any money, I'll be without a laptop for at least a week. That's not something I want to consider when I'm spending almost 3k for a premium computer.

 

[rick3000]

You don't have to look down you just get used to it.

Stop preaching about things you don't know about!

I have used the Touch Bar and I did not like it. If Apple is going to stick with the TB, they need to add haptic feedback to it to provide some responsiveness like the iPhone home button (when it had one). I also realize there are apps to add haptic, but they need to build it in under the TB.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Not all pros require a powerful GPU. It's nice to have the option of not having to pay for a GPU you're not going to use, not having a GPU drain your battery for nothing.

That's the reason why you would buy a MacBook or MacBook Air instead.
Older MacBook Pro's had both an Integrated and "Pro"GPUs that could be used depending on the needs. It was supposed to be a "Revolutionary Feature". What happened to that?

 

[rixax]

Apple: 32 GB. There. Have it. Ya'll happy now?

YES

 

[maflynn]

This tells me that John Gruber’s source might be right in that the issue was with a parts supplier product not being to spec vs. a specific flaw in the keyboard design. Also Apple would have the stats on how many users were affected. It does them no good to lie about it.

Maybe, but right now apple is fighting a negative perception and without a major change that's an uphill battle.

 

[potatis]

Is there any detail anywhere on what the Radeon Pro 555X is?

Does the X just denote the 4GB VRAM in all tiers now, and the chip is largely unchanged from the 555? That's what it sounds like, I'm surprised there's no Vega though. The 555 in turn was the same as the 455, so the GPU itself is largely unchanged from the 2016 mid tier model.

Uses GDDR5X? Probably not...

 

[Amazing Iceman]

What if I'm a PROfessional author using it to write my next best selling novel, or a PROfessional Project Manager handling a multi-million dollar development effort?

I think it's probably more accurate to consider price vs. graphic subsystem, but not usage

In this case, all you need is a MacBook or MacBook Air.
My point is that Apple shouldn't be adding the "Pro" label to something that's not Pro.

 

[urnotl33t]

Neither did Ming Chi Kuo apparently. Is this Apple flipping him the bird after yesterday's report?

Probably so. He just guesses anyway...

 

[TomOSeven]

Isn't the RX 555 barely better than the MX150 (AKA GT 1030)?

In a computer that costs more than my car. ****ing hell...

 

[Rogifan]

That's true about Gruber, but I've seen in a few other sites, same thing, not the design itself, but a component issue.

And apparently Apple is saying the new keyboard isn’t fixing that issue which indicates it wasn’t a design flaw but an issue with a specific part. Anyone who expected them to revert back to an older keyboard design is being disingenuous.

 

[anonymous13579]

If they're still shipping with that same keyboard but just quieter = Lol

It’s “3rd Gen” so they probabaly fixed the problems that have been going on since the 2016... Hopfully Lol

 

[Schranke]

Hmm just came to wonder, how do you think the new 6-core i7 in the 15" will behave when it comes to throttling?
I am a little worried that the heatsinks will not be enough even when taking measurement as running fans at max, raising the bottom from the table and changing thermal past.

 

[shareef777]

I've got a 15" 2016 TB and will not be upgrading my laptop ever again till they get rid of that worthless POS gimmic.

 

[neomorpheus]

Apple shouldn't be adding the "Pro" label to something that's not Pro.

That boat sailed a long time ago.

The only thing that really deserves the Pro moniker is the price gauging from Apple.

 

[Cesar Battistini]

Excellent, my still-under-Applecare 2015 value just went up



Hmmm, 13" quad core, maybe this means a new Mini QC (in the past, the Mini has occasionally "borrowed" the 13" internals).




That's true about Gruber, but I've seen in a few other sites, same thing, not the design itself, but a component issue.




What if I'm a PROfessional author using it to write my next best selling novel, or a PROfessional Project Manager handling a multi-million dollar development effort?

I think it's probably more accurate to consider price vs. graphic subsystem, but not usage

YES! There all king of professionals and more than half of then have no need for 32gb of ram.
Not every one is a designer, content producer or developer.

 

[redheeler]

That was unexpected. Coffee Lake, improved keyboard, and 32 GB RAM were needed, but this also shatters any hope I had of a display resolution increase or price drop this year...

 

[manu chao]

The ports on the right side are limited PCI Express bandwidth. Shortcut by Apple to save battery life and cost.

Sure, the 13" MBP should also come 47-W TDP CPUs (instead of 29-W TDP CPUs), as this is the only way to get the additional PCIe lanes required for four full-speed TB 3 ports.

 

[kis]

Too late in my case, I ended up getting a Surface Book 2 after continuous keyboard issues with my 2017 MacBook Pro. Honestly, I should have bought the SB2 earlier.

 

[morphineseason]

I like how they discontinued the plastic MacBook back in 2011 and have still never really replaced it with another entry level machine. The MacBook Air is such an afterthought anymore as well and will probably be on its way out.

Looks like another year of me not buying a new Mac. I actually just sold my late 2009 27" BTO iMac as well. I upgraded my desktop PC with a new mobo, 8th gen i7 CPU, and 16gb DDR4 RAM for just over $600

 

[rotlex]

I find it really hard to believe that at $1800 for the base model, they don't make the base RAM config 16GB. Like seriously?

 

[timber]

Not all pros require a powerful GPU. It's nice to have the option of not having to pay for a GPU you're not going to use, not having a GPU drain your battery for nothing.

You still pay more than enough for a top of the line GPU. You just don't get one.

 

[WRONG]

Apple: 32 GB. There. Have it. Ya'll happy now?

I wonder why it was so hard to simply do it in the last years

 

[Schranke]

That's the reason why you would buy a MacBook or MacBook Air instead.

No, just no. The air has an abysmal resolution and does not provide space on screen, it literally hurts my eyes to look at. The Macbook is not adept enough to handle large spreadsheets, and multiple programs running at once. experienced that with multiple friends in business school, so for a professional environment it is out too.