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Apple Launches 8 GB iPhone 5c, Relaunches 16 GB iPad 4
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A correction to the article: the 8GB iPhone 5c is not sold on all european online apple stores. Example: http://store.apple.com/pt/buy-iphone/iphone5c
I don't get the hate for an 8gb handset ... personally, I have a 16gb 5s for work with 11.6gb free (from a potential capacity of 12.6gb) ... 92% empty
and my personal handset, an 8gb MotoG running the stock KitKat (4.4.2) has 3.73gb free (from a potential capacity of 5.52gb) ... 68% empty
I don't get it, there are literally 2-3apps on each, a handful of pics and that's it ... I use my phones for calls, messaging, email and a little internet usage ... All media consumption happens on my iPad
people need to calm down and realise that not everyone wants/needs a vast array of local storage and in the real world with real people I would say from personal experience of professionals in the 30-40 age bracket I am more the normal demograph of handset utilisation ... where we don't want to be tied to our handsets any longer than necessary
and my personal handset, an 8gb MotoG running the stock KitKat (4.4.2) has 3.73gb free (from a potential capacity of 5.52gb) ... 68% empty
I don't get it, there are literally 2-3apps on each, a handful of pics and that's it ... I use my phones for calls, messaging, email and a little internet usage ... All media consumption happens on my iPad
people need to calm down and realise that not everyone wants/needs a vast array of local storage and in the real world with real people I would say from personal experience of professionals in the 30-40 age bracket I am more the normal demograph of handset utilisation ... where we don't want to be tied to our handsets any longer than necessary
"Apple will launch products in new categories and the company is working on "really great stuff", according to an interview with CEO Tim Cook in The Wall Street Journal this evening.
He demurred when asked about specific possible products, but said anyone "reasonable" would consider Apple's upcoming products to be in new categories."
Since we're going back in time - how about a 17" MBP?
He demurred when asked about specific possible products, but said anyone "reasonable" would consider Apple's upcoming products to be in new categories."
Since we're going back in time - how about a 17" MBP?
Indeed. Now if 16 GB 5C would be free with contract of 499, that would sell so well.
Because you can also get email, check the weather, news and markets, take and process photos. Transient data, a few apps, room for some podcasts, music playlists, a few video files etc. It's lightyears from a cellphone for not a Rolls Royce's worth of cash (or debt).
Even at £429 it's still way too expensive for the unlocked pay-as-you-go market which is a big percentage of mobile sales in the UK and elsewhere outside the US. You can buy a decent phone for half that.
Apple is number one at the premium end of the market but if they want to succeed in the mid-range sector and PAYG market they need to lower their prices across the board for the 5c.
Apple is number one at the premium end of the market but if they want to succeed in the mid-range sector and PAYG market they need to lower their prices across the board for the 5c.
That's a really good reason for Apple never to make any improvements to their product lines. I mean imagine you bought a Mac in 1984 for $2500. You would have been hating Apple for the last 30 years.
I'm surprised you don't get it, because you've basically answered your own question. You only have 2-3 apps. You hardly use your phone. A lot of people do use their phone. Take a few pics (maybe some holiday snapshots), a few videos, and you're easily in the range of 2GB - 3GB for photos and videos. I have 109 apps on my iPhone, but I guess it's above average, so let's say 50 is the average. That's easily 2GB apps for you. Load up some music, let's say 3GB/4GB (about 500 songs?) and 8GB of storage space is gone. Then there's the mysterious "Other" space which easily takes up 2GB on an iOS device and your 16GB device is practically full. And you've done nothing out of the ordinary with your phone.
That said, Apple's pricing for storage capacity is starting to get a little insane. You can literally buy 2 Nexus 5 32GB devices for the price of 1 iPhone 5S 32GB. I'm willing to pay a premium for the iPhone because I've used it for years, but when the iPhone 6 base model still will be only 16GB, perhaps I'll try the Nexus 5. 400 is a lot of money.
Believe it or not, there's people who will not download apps, play games or take photos. They only use their iPhones for Skype and FaceTime, and to make phone calls and track their appointments. For these people, 8 GB is more than enough.
They should have added the 64gb iPhone 5c dropped all the prices $100, I think that would have been worth it and the iPad with the a6x should have been kept around instead of the iPad 2 when the iPad Air was released, apple really dropped the ball on their product line this time around...which really doesn't happen very often
Based on the European price of (Euro)429 and with the current exchange rate the equivalent price of the 5C in the US would be $596.74 so I suppose a more realistic estimate of the US price would be $599 or $50 less than the current 16GB 5C.
EDIT: I'm an idiot. The 5C 16GB is $549. This pricing is suspicious indeed...
You would be correct. I still use my iPhone 1 (2G). And still does the job I need it to do quite well. I have a 64GB iPad 4th gen so I do all my portable computing on that. And I only use the iPhone 1 for basic tasks and a few time wasting games while waiting for a train.
Also you'd be surprised how much iOS does for making calls, sending sms and checking emails. It's just so easy to do all of this on iOS. In a dumb phone the whole process of doing those things takes 2x as long and is much more frustrating.
The people in the same market as myself will like an 8GB iPhone. But the price the 8GB 5c is at, is borderline too much. And I feel my market might be a little too niche to really make an impact on sales.
That is a pretty big stretch. We are literally talking about a product that is 1 year old versus one that is 3 years old selling for the same price. Obviously the 2 was way over-priced, but that is jacked up. They should have lowered the price knowing they were doing this. They want the margins, but damn!
This is targeted for non-techy audience, I think. My friend had to drag his dad -kicking and screaming- to buy him an iPhone 4s, 8GB, the iPhone is still empty. Not everyone has music and photos on their phone, some actually use it as... a phone!
I wish though they would work on those prices, they are still too high
Well at the time I posted my comment there is no 8GB 5c available in the US Apple Store yet, and £429 = US$712. Still, $499 is still way overpriced.
The original article has links to roundups to some mentioned products, but not others, including the very subjects of the article, iPad 2 and the iPad 4.
interesting. i actually am in the same boat though i own a 16 gig 5s i just cant get myself to start using as a main device.
but what i can however say is that its lack of space and the facts its old means i really dont use it much much differently than a feature phone. sure i like some features much more like the dialer, contacts, text conversation history and i do check the weather and with emails its mostly to see if i received ones rather than sending out.
i just think the gutting the space is a bad way to get a cheaper phone out there as it so seriously limits the future potential.
Oh wow… Yes, they've changed it!! I was looking at the Compare iPad models page, and earlier it definitely said $449 on that page, but now they've blanked out the price! (See attached screenshot.) And yes, going to the store shows a price of $529* like you say. Well that answers my question. It was too good to be true!
*EDIT: Nope, it’s back to $449 again, and this time it’s consistent on both the Compare iPad models page and the store page! Okay, back to what I said before. I think this is a good price!! Maybe worth getting in before they change their mind again!
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£429 for an 8GB, plasticky phone thats 2-generations behind.
So wrong on so many levels.
HTC One which is a vastly better phone on all fronts except maybe camera can be had for £365
GS4 can be had for £355
Nexus 5 £339
Why on earth would anyone opt for this instead.
I mean there's paying a premium...and there's outright 'bend over and take it from behind.'
So wrong on so many levels.
HTC One which is a vastly better phone on all fronts except maybe camera can be had for £365
GS4 can be had for £355
Nexus 5 £339
Why on earth would anyone opt for this instead.
I mean there's paying a premium...and there's outright 'bend over and take it from behind.'
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Yeah I dunno.
Apple has done what they've always done... offer last year's hardware at $100 less than the current flagship model.
Only this time... they put it in a plastic case. You're still getting the same hardware as the iPhone 5 would have been... and some people actually like the fun colors.
But yeah... that experiment didn't work as planned (as per the articles... which aren't 100% proven)
But despite that... Apple sold more iPhones than they ever sold before! Even with the seemingly "failed" 5C.
So... they're not losing as many customers as you think.
And don't forget... 8GB iPhones have been around for years. It's not some new idea.
It's usually been reserved for the two-year-old model... but now you can get a 5C in 8GB capacity too.
That doesn't mean you HAVE to buy it... the 16GB 5C is still available at the same price it's been for the last 6 months.
And you gotta remember... you and I are on a tech forum right now. We are not the average consumer.
Anyone who is interested in the 5C... and an 8GB 5C at that... is probably not a power-user like you and I.
They won't have tons of apps and games. This might even be their first iPhone.
Is 8GB borderline useless? It's no more useless than the 8GB iPhone 4S... the 8GB iPhone 4... or the 8GB iPhone 3GS... etc. Some people just don't need a lot of storage.
And if you do... there are iPhones with higher capacities.