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So... They now sell two new iPod models that can't play music from their new music service? This is the first time I feel like saying "Steve jobs would have never". Truly bizzare.
what would you have them do?

Interesting thing is that it has better chip than the ipad mini 3 while still maintaining a lower 4" screen. It may be the best performing thing in apple's gadget lineup when comparing chip to resolution.
 
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they should have kept a 4" and a 4.7" on 6 launch and then added a 5.5" for the 6s, while keeping a 4". it just made Apple look like they were chasing instead of sticking true to some of their own ideals.
And those ideals are selling only phones that can be used with one hand? If you believe that, you really misunderstood something. Apple's 'ideal' is to sell the best phones. One-handed use is one positive aspect, a larger screen is another positive aspect. Deciding what is the best depends on how the majority of users value these different aspects. And how these aspects are valued by the users changes over time. Thus not changing can actually mean to move away from the ideal of designing the 'best' phones.

there's no "perfect one size fits all" for phones. having choices is great. but Apple keeps putting their foot in their mouths with these bold claims about "perfect" sizes for things, only to a few years later, release something of new size which they attacked before
Do you expect any company to present new products and saying they are the wrong size?
 
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Forgive me if I'm being thick but I don't see the difference? What's different about the home buttons below? If you meant the lock buttons (which do match the casing), they matched the colours in the last gen also.

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Ah, looks like it is only the gold Touch - the home button outlining is gold! The other models are white (though I swear I saw a promotional image where the blue iPod had a blue outline as well)
 
This is a disappointing upgrade...they should have added TouchID to the iPod Touch. It is nice they upped the storage to 128 GB. It kind of fills the iPod Classic gap. I also think that they should have offered the 4.7" screen size of the iPhone 6. They should have offered multiple storage options for the Nano (including 128 GB). Some people just want a high capacity music player. They have the components, how hard would it be to do that?
 
Many people. In fact I purchased one for the Good Lady Wife not that long ago, Product Red of course. She uses it when she goes running and for music in her car. Her other phone, provided by her work, is regrettably a Samsung.

So...there you go.
But why not just get an iPhone?
 
It feels like 2005 again when people actually cared about the iPod.
Or maybe people have increased interest because the iPod is in the "endangered species" category, and many iPod fans realize that this might possibly be the last year to get a (modern updated) iPod model from Apple. I certainly like the iPod as my "focused music storage device", hence I will buy one of these.

I don't consider dumping gigs of music on an iPhone a good use of the iPhone capacity. iPhone is way too expensive to use as a dedicated music player.
 
In your opinion. Look, I've used the six extensively and switched back to the 5s.

The 4" iPhones were the limit that my hand could use single handedly. That is important to me. Why defend a corporation removing options that a lot of people prefer?
They removed one option and added two other options. If you see that as an overall removal of options, I don't know. Steve Jobs said (probably multiple times) that one has to think very hard before adding an option/feature because removing any option/feature is very hard (in regard to public opposition). Removing an option that one million people want generates more downside in regard to publicity than adding an option that ten million people want generates in upside.
 
This is a disappointing upgrade...they should have added TouchID to the iPod Touch. It is nice they upped the storage to 128 GB. It kind of fills the iPod Classic gap. I also think that they should have offered the 4.7" screen size of the iPhone 6. They should have offered multiple storage options for the Nano (including 128 GB). Some people just want a high capacity music player. They have the components, how hard would it be to do that?
Yeah, I was expecting TouchID to make it in as well. :(
 
They removed one option and added two other options. If you see that as an overall removal of options, I don't know. Steve Jobs said (probably multiple times) that one has to think very hard before adding an option/feature because removing any option/feature is very hard (in regard to public opposition). Removing an option that one million people want generates more downside in regard to publicity than adding an option that ten million people want generates in upside.
My point that you took out of context earlier, (either intentionally or not). is that Steve is wrong.

you dont HAVE to remove anything.

its not a zero sum game.

there was absolutely no reason for Apple to have kept a 4" iPhone 6 alongside the other 2. Or hell, why not 5 other options? or... so on.

just because Mr Jobs once said that to add options they must remove options doesn't make it true. There was absolutely ZERO preventing Apple from retaining a 4" model alongside the existing one.
 
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Baffled and disappointed Apple didn't at least make a 32GB nano available. I just need a music player for car duty w/ decent enough space for less compressed music.

On the + side maybe there will be some good sales on the 5th gen. Touch to make room for #6.
 
Hmmm, long shot, but I bought my sister an iPod Touch in-store on the 26 of June. Fine, it's missed the 14 day return, but do they have other rules surrounding returns when they've released a brand new version of the same item so soon after purchase? (UK)
 
No auto brightness? Again? Gonna stick with my 4g.
What kind of auto brightness do you mean?
Already the iPod Touch 2g had an ambient light sensor for auto display illumination.

EDIT: I just found out it's true:

Quote about the ipod Touch 5G
"Update Oct. 17:A post from TUAW, sourcing Phil Schiller, states that the iPod Touch was simply too thin to accommodate an ambient light sensor."

THAT IS RIDICULOUS!

So now my iPod Touch 2G has better features. GREAT
 
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Do they? U cant say that 4ich ip6 would or would not oversell 4.7inch one...
We can say that the sales increase from the 5s to 6/6+ generation was larger than the 5 to 5s sales increase. And if you factor in the general slowing of growth over the past five years, the sales increase from the 5s to 6/6+ was also larger than the sales increase from the 4s to the 5. You can argue that offering two sizes (with current tech) is bound to result in additional sales. But from all the rumours we have heard about the 6 vs 6+ sales split, even the 5s to 6 sales increase was bigger than the previous increases with new generations (and the proper number to compare would be the estimated sales increase from the 5s to the 6 (ie, assuming there would be no 6+), a number that would have been higher than the actual 5s to 6 increase).
 
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