Well after Tim Cook became CEO, there has been a bigger shift towards profits rather than giving more to the consumers. Not entirely sure if this was "his" idea, but if it is... I wouldn't want him to have anymore control.
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Apple Launches Beats Powerbeats2 Wireless Earphones in Apple Watch Sport Band Colors
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Well after Tim Cook became CEO, there has been a bigger shift towards profits rather than giving more to the consumers. Not entirely sure if this was "his" idea, but if it is... I wouldn't want him to have anymore control.
I have a pair that I use at the gym, and it's the first set of earbuds that are comfortable. I tried just about every other one, including the jaybirds which were not comfortable at all. I was actually impressed at the bass level without wedging the earbud in your ear, which I'm not a fan of.
Can't agree. I loved the design and comfort, but the auto noise canceling is beyond annoying. They need an off switch of a companion app like parrot, that lets you adjust the level.
As much as I keep getting tempted to buy a new set of cans, not these though, I'm still using an ancient pair of Sony DR-BT21G.
They aren't the best money can buy but they are reasonably well balanced and considering I've had them for about 5 years and they still look and perform as good as when I got them despite years of abuse including a few years on the road when I was a roadie I'm pretty attached to them.
They aren't the best money can buy but they are reasonably well balanced and considering I've had them for about 5 years and they still look and perform as good as when I got them despite years of abuse including a few years on the road when I was a roadie I'm pretty attached to them.
I bought a pair of these, fully expecting to take them back within a few days. I'd exhausted all the other bluetooth headsets. There was just nothing that sounded half-good, didn't fall out entirely, or shake themselves so loose that the seal broke and the bass disappeared after a minute of running. I thought they were great. I grabbed some Comply tips to go with them and have been very happy.
They are expensive but point out an alternative that sounds better and I will try it. I have better sounding wired earbuds. I love my Shure SE215's but they are not sweat/rainproof bluetooth sports headphones so why compare them?
They are expensive but point out an alternative that sounds better and I will try it. I have better sounding wired earbuds. I love my Shure SE215's but they are not sweat/rainproof bluetooth sports headphones so why compare them?
Already here, I disagree. Sennheiser's headphones deliver at least as good noise canceling performance, and with them, I have not experienced the strange feeling of "pressure" the Bose headphones deliver. Heck, I used to have dirt-cheap Targus noise-cancelling headphones that were better than Bose's.
Bose has one of the best marketing departments on the planet. Better than Apple or Beats.
While I do agree that the build quality of Bose products always used to be very good, that's about it. Most HiFi magazines in Germany for example used to refuse to review Bose products, because they don't have any relation to the "Fi" part in the word "HiFi". Bose has always managed to make their products sound very very impressive, at the expense of fidelity.
That is not necessarily a bad thing, as sound perception is a very subjective matter. But people who buy Bose products buy them for the Bose sound, just like people who buy Beats products buy them for the Beats sound. So in a thread where Beats earphones are being bashed for their sound, the mention of Bose earphones should lead to violent rioting.
Amen to that. That was exactly the reason I returned my Bose QC 15's at the Apple store and upgraded to the Bowers & Wilkins P5's. Before I purchased the Bose I read online that people were experiencing pressure on the ear drums from the noise canceling feature. I tried them anyway. While the noise canceling was excellent it left me taking aspirin after just 30 minutes to get rid of the headaches. The pressure on my ear drums was immediately noticeable and uncomfortable. Ended up with the B&W because I decided passive noise canceling was better for me and didn't require batteries.
I don't think they want it to be clear. The Beats brand has enough clout on its own and continues to maintain its own profit generating revenue stream. If they merged the branding it would diminish the Beats' brand (put them in Apple's shadow), and for what? Would that gain them new customers or otherwise increase revenue? Doubtful.
Beats is better off as a peer to Apple in the luxury arena. Besides, what they really wanted was Iovine on their payroll, so, mission accomplished.
A little prejudicial, no?
Surely it's better to judge any product from any given brand on actual merit, especially over time.
Worst Bluetooth earphones ever, I barely kept them for 4 days, the audio quality is not good, the design is horrible and they have bluetooth sync issue with macbook...audio from video's does not sync properly.
I wish Apple sometime took ideas from their own drawing boards and implemented EarPods ear piece onto these because its extremely comfortable.
I wish Apple sometime took ideas from their own drawing boards and implemented EarPods ear piece onto these because its extremely comfortable.
You know what works really great at a perfect price?
Over-the-ear headphones from 5BELOW...
Especially when you have kids in the house...
Over-the-ear headphones from 5BELOW...
Especially when you have kids in the house...
Prejudicial? Huh? These are mass consumer products, not humans. You sound like you're a Beats owner and are offended about my personal choice. Oy vey.
I have definitely checked out the Beats headphones. In fact they were the first on my list to check out on my journey to buy HiFi headphones. I fell for the marketing and the packaging. Brought my iPod and tested multiple models and none of them impressed me one bit. And the build quality was terrible and it didn't help that the Apple Store, Best Buy and Fry's Electronics all had demos with broken headbands. Couple that with multiple YouTube videos of people showing how easy they were to break.
Given the latest models have corrected the snapping band issues the build quality still appears to be cheap plastic and they are using vinyl ear cups. IMO, for $299 Beats Studios you're getting $100 headphones (at best, and that's giving them credit) in $199 packaging. Please do not reply saying I'm trolling. I'm speaking from experience.
For $399 I recently I bought the Bowers & Wilkins P7's. Excellent sound quality for all types of music and it's all metal design with sheep's leather ear cups and headband. These consistently have received amazing reviews. I also own the P5's for the same price as the Beats Studios and they have the same great build quality with amazing sound as the P7's.
Sadly, Beats at any price will still outsell them out of popularity.
Oy vey indeed. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that anyone who asserts that they will never consider buying any Beats product at any time in the future is evidently adopting a prejudicial position.
One might reasonably expect changes in whatever it is about Beats products that offends you, given the brand's recent acquisition by Apple.
ok seeing this horrific earbuds, 2 points are much more clear now:
apple bought beats for jimmy, dr and probably some other beats personnel, so they have better leverage in the music business
apple doesn't care about beats products. they haven't killed it yet because one of the db's find these 'things' a 'prestige' product/project.
they will be killed when they don't need that music leverage anymore
apple bought beats for jimmy, dr and probably some other beats personnel, so they have better leverage in the music business
apple doesn't care about beats products. they haven't killed it yet because one of the db's find these 'things' a 'prestige' product/project.
they will be killed when they don't need that music leverage anymore
Sigh, you're not reading your own posts. You're making this to be "personal". Nothing about Beats "offends" me, and I couldn't' care less that Apple bought them. IMO they are just cheap junk. When I spend good money on a product or do research on a product and said product has not 1, not 2, but multiple issues, along with apparent cheap build quality and subpar performance (especially when it's being marketed to kids) I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the company to make a better product. Especially when competing companies make a much better product (with consistently stellar reviews) all around for the same money.
We ARE talking about headphones. I don't need to have an allegiance to a brand.
Correct me if I'm wrong. You said: "I ... won't ever buy a pair of Beats ANYTHING in regards to headphones"
That's all I'm suggesting you should consider doing in future (research on a product) - rather than dismissing Beats or any other brand based on prejudice, especially after a brand has undergone a fundamental change in ownership.
Why is that important to you that I do that?
Surely you don't mean you write. You're not allowing me to have my opinion, as I PREFER to explore other products now and in the future. Beats is a tarnished brand to me and it's success has been marketing to kids, and that won't change. Sports stars have business relationships with the Beats brand to showcase them before and after games, in magazines and TV ads. And who mimics sports stars? KIDS. And who couldn't care less if the build quality and sound quality sucks? KIDS. And who likes beautiful packaging and celebrity-endorsed products? KIDS. And why are Beats successful and virtually outselling every other brand of headphones in it's price category? KIDS.
I'm no fortune teller but from my vision Beats headphones will always be designed for and marketed to KIDS. I will look elsewhere.
It's not me that's offended by Beats. It's YOU that's offended by my preference.
It isn't. I'm observing that your statement is illogical and based on prejudice rather than on any objective assessment of future Beats products. Extreme example: Apple buys Bowers & Wilkins and re-brands their products as Beats.
Clearly not!
If they don't perform like an expensive headphone then one can only conclude that they are a terrible value and not worth pursuing. Paying for quality is fine. Overpaying for "perceived" quality is dumb.
What happened to your post that said, "Everyone is entitled to the own opinions and preferences"? I don't seem to see that anymore. Did you delete it? Hmmm.
Rather than spouting out "profound" lines of nonsense......(and I call it nonsense because you continually contradict yourself each time you reply me saying I shouldn't be so prejudice towards Beats) you might want to start listening to yourself because it doesn't sound like you even believe a word you say.
Oh and yes, Beats IS clearly marketed towards kids. You're sorely in the minority if you think otherwise.
I edited that comment out before you replied. For completeness sake, the other half of that comment (which I also edited out) was along the lines of: "However, simple logic is irrefutable".
I edited them out because I was concerned that you were taking things personally and that they mightn't help with that.
However, as you've brought it up, I'm happy to stand by both of them.
Let's leave it there. There is clearly nothing to be gained from any further "debate" between us on this subject.
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It's obvious you had your foot in your mouth which is the real truth.
You weren't concerned about me taking anything personally. Remember you replied to my comment first calling me prejudice towards Beats. YOU took it personally. No doubt you own a pair of Beats and my comment frustrated you.