Apple Launches Guide for Android Users Switching to iPhone

[3282868]

Android Owner: "I don't want to use iTunes. iTunes sucks!"

Friend: "Have you tried it?"

Android Owner: "No, but I heard it sucks, just like the iPhone!"

Friend: "Who said that?"

Android Owner: "Samsung and Google."

*For the record, I do agree iTunes needs an overhaul. Too bloated, bring iSync back as the main conduit and follow iBooks - separate the media into individual core app's with their stores. It seems Apple may be testing this out with the new 12 (think about the media and store layouts and you'll see).

 

[brdeveloper]

Of course you can, and should. Apple is very capable of mistakes and is by no means infallible.

The lack of an open file manager is not something I miss however. I have a Mac and PC to manage files.

You have a Mac and PC to manage iPhone files... but not through Windows Explorer or Finder. You have to import everything to iTunes. And don't try to help a friend, because if an iTunes installation and an iPhone are registered in different accounts, iTunes will ask for wiping the iPhone. Very intelligent!

 

[nando87]

Android Owner: "I don't want to use iTunes. iTunes sucks!"

Friend: "Have you tried it?"

Android Owner: "No, but I heard it sucks, just like the iPhone!"

Friend: "Who said that?"

Android Owner: "Samsung and Google."

... and a lot of itunes-iphone users. I just want to manage my folders inside the iphone, I don't want a crappy intermediary synchronising stupidly. It's just a not intuitive outdated system. These are not iPods classic anymore, this is a mobile computer, I want to see folders and files for god's sake. Android is much much superior in this IMO

It's just a bizarre unintuitive system like iCloud and its abstract invisible file management (I hope iCloud drive is now something like Dropbox)

 

[brdeveloper]

Android Owner: "I don't want to use iTunes. iTunes sucks!"

Friend: "Have you tried it?"

Android Owner: "No, but I heard it sucks, just like the iPhone!"

Friend: "Who said that?"

Android Owner: "Samsung and Google."

No, it really sucks. Unless you like buying expensive music and burning it into CDs. I did it sometimes when my inexpensive plan didn't offered some rare songs (it was Sonora, $20, 250 mp3 downloads/month, non-DRMed files, fully legal by the eyes of RIAA... I gave up after having downloaded around ~1500 files).

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So here is a question. My wife and I will most likely be moving from Android to the 6. We currently have an iMac and Macbook Pro, but I'm unsure the best option for having two iPhones. Is my only option to set up multiple profiles on each computer that we have to switch between?

I never played too much with iTunes and iPhone syncing, but it seems that if your wife's iPhone is registered into her Mac, you won't be able to move files to her iPhone using your Mac, unless you accept iTunes wiping the phone.


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BTW, Nokia has an utility called "Nokia Suite" that was way more capable than iTunes in terms of syncing and managing media. I could register multiple phone in the application and also I could sync a single phone on two computers without having to wipe anything. The phones could be "polygamous" in this sense.

 

[HiVolt]

Would you rather use even more apps? Having one unified organiser for everything is the best case.

Granted not being able to access a computer is inconvienevit, but it is uncommon and rarely important. You can surely wait a day or two to sync a GarageBand project.

Dropbox already offers some limited functionality. I use it for text files likes Doc's and PDF's. There is much to be expanded upon alright and I welcome any advances with iCloud drive.

Well, its also apps not being able to use content already in other apps... If I have several 3rd party media players, I have to upload content to them individually...

 

[brdeveloper]

Well, its also apps not being able to use content already in other apps... If I have several 3rd party media players, I have to upload content to them individually...

Yes, this is a issue with third-party players. But you also need tons of bandwidth to use iTunes Match comfortably and also pay for a plan even if you legally own your digital media.

 

[Tubamajuba]

I wonder if they have another document that will show me how to simulate my Galaxy Note 3 stylus on the new iPhone6?

Or how I can side load apps like you can on Android, or how I can plug in a standard mouse and keyboard into the USB or any of the other 1001 things that Android users enjoy?

No? Didn't think so.

It's not JUST size that makes people use Android.

Oh yes and where is the micro SD card slot to insert my 64GB card?

Also I forgot, how do we change the battery in the iPhone 6? I often take a spare or two with me when I know I will be away from a charger. Any info from Tim on that?

He can stick his iPhone 6 for all I care. They have not addressed any of my issues with iPhone.

Feel better now?

 

[mejsric]

I wonder if they have another document that will show me how to simulate my Galaxy Note 3 stylus on the new iPhone6?

Or how I can side load apps like you can on Android, or how I can plug in a standard mouse and keyboard into the USB or any of the other 1001 things that Android users enjoy?

No? Didn't think so.

It's not JUST size that makes people use Android.

Oh yes and where is the micro SD card slot to insert my 64GB card?

Also I forgot, how do we change the battery in the iPhone 6? I often take a spare or two with me when I know I will be away from a charger. Any info from Tim on that?

He can stick his iPhone 6 for all I care. They have not addressed any of my issues with iPhone.

You hate macs and you keep visiting Mac sites.

Must be a crazy life.

 

[nando87]

The worst thing about the iPhone, I've always thought it and I've been both an android and an iphone user (currently an iphone user since 2 years ago), is its file management as I said. It makes the iPhone look like a toy. Would it be so hard to use a similar system to the OS X one?

And the iCloud's file management too which no one on this planet achieves to understand. It's just intolerable and stupid.

Getting used to these things when you come from personal computers and android devices is really really hard, if not impossible.

 

[3282868]

I wonder if they have another document that will show me how to simulate my Galaxy Note 3 stylus on the new iPhone6?

Or how I can side load apps like you can on Android, or how I can plug in a standard mouse and keyboard into the USB or any of the other 1001 things that Android users enjoy?

No? Didn't think so.

It's not JUST size that makes people use Android.

Oh yes and where is the micro SD card slot to insert my 64GB card?

Also I forgot, how do we change the battery in the iPhone 6? I often take a spare or two with me when I know I will be away from a charger. Any info from Tim on that?

He can stick his iPhone 6 for all I care. They have not addressed any of my issues with iPhone.

- iOS can be used with any stylus, there are plenty on the market especially as retailers are using iPad's and iPod Touch's for POS devices. However, iOS wasn't developed for use with a stylus, a salient point Jobs pushed developing multi-touch in iOS.

- "Side loading app's"? Don't be so trifling. If you don't like iOS, don't get an iPhone.

- It's a mobile device, not a desktop computer. You can use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse/trackpad on iPad's, but if you need one for your mobile phone, you're using it wrong.

- Apple is pushing iCloud services (free), your media is available OTA, you don't need to load everything you have onto your device (before needing wifi complaint(s), wifi hotspots are everywhere, especially throughout the EU). If you need to carry a bunch of memory cards around, get the 128GB model. If that isn't enough, stick with Android.

- We haven't seen real world tests of the new batteries with optimized iOS 8 and app's, let's not jump the gun.

Aside from those trifling points, there are plenty of other devices on the market. I've been an iPhone owner since day 1, but I'm considering other options for personal reasons. I may get an iPhone 6, or something else, whatever floats your boat, I simply get tired of these exaggerated "complaints".

 

[brdeveloper]

... and a lot of itunes-iphone users. I just want to manage my folders inside the iphone, I don't want a crappy intermediary synchronising stupidly. It's just a not intuitive outdated system. These are not iPods classic anymore, this is a mobile computer, I want to see folders and files for god's sake. Android is much much superior in this IMO

It's just a bizarre unintuitive system like iCloud and its abstract invisible file management (I hope iCloud drive is now something like Dropbox)

Agreed. Apple tried to make users think that files and apps are the same thing.

"If you have pictures, look at them through iPhoto respecting its rules"

"If you have music, deal with iTunes with other rules"

"If you have documents, look at another app which will handle documents and organize them differently"

On iOS, there is a lot of different ways of dealing with the same abstract entity: plain files. Why I'm not dumb for dealing with files in my Mac but I need some kind of "protection" and "ease" to deal with files in iOS devices? THIS is unnatural.

 

[AlecZ]

I wonder if there will be a migration tool like there is/was for Windows users going to Mac OS X. All for a phone. That would be funny.

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Android Owner: "I don't want to use iTunes. iTunes sucks!"

Friend: "Have you tried it?"

Android Owner: "No, but I heard it sucks, just like the iPhone!"

Friend: "Who said that?"

Android Owner: "Samsung and Google."

*For the record, I do agree iTunes needs an overhaul. Too bloated, bring iSync back as the main conduit and follow iBooks - separate the media into individual core app's with their stores. It seems Apple may be testing this out with the new 12 (think about the media and store layouts and you'll see).

Sounds like the guys on my floor who ask me for help on their computer science homework and come in and see my Mac. Sucks for them that they use Windows because now they don't know how to use Unix and get confused in class.

 

[brdeveloper]

- iOS can be used with any stylus, there are plenty on the market especially as retailers are using iPad's and iPod Touch's for POS devices. However, iOS wasn't developed for use with a stylus, a salient point Jobs pushed developing multi-touch in iOS.

Is there any pressure-sensitive stylus on the market for iOS devices (my ignorance, I never heard of something like a Wacom stylus for iPads/iPhones).

- Apple is pushing iCloud services (free), your media is available OTA, you don't need to load everything you have onto your device (before needing wifi complaint(s), wifi hotspots are everywhere, especially throughout the EU). If you need to carry a bunch of memory cards around, get the 128GB model. If that isn't enough, stick with Android.

Can I store around 30GB of mp3 files on iCloud for free (without paying an additional service like iTunes match)? Taking into account that my data plan is limited, I also should probably increase my monthly bandwidth to keep my files in the cloud, that is, supposing that I trust on keeping my media and personal files in the cloud.

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

thats comes out next year...... Pomegranate 2s

Nicely done!

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Does iOS8 drop at midnight (PDT)?

 

[Skika]

>implying people want to switch from Android

Using ">" to quote outside imageboards

Pls stop.

 

[TreyCox]

I'm a huge Tim Cook fan.

 

[GeneralChang]

Please explain how do you move a .vcf file to an iPhone without installing third party apps like Dropbox or something. The only way I could import a .vcf file to my wife's iPhone was launching a local web server hosting the .vcf file. Then I opened Safari pointing to the file's URL.

It's not so straightforward... try doing the same with music (.mp3 files) when your computer iTunes account is different from the iTunes phone account. iTunes gently asks to wipe the phone!!! What a mess.

My point is it wasn't super difficult to figure all that out. Transferring music without plugging my phone into my computer was a little tricky, but a quick jaunt over to the support forums took care of that. I use a third party app to transfer videos, and everything else (contacts, calendar, email, so forth) was as simple as importing it into the desktop version of the app and then syncing everything into iCloud. I got a whole bunch of "would you like to set up this account with this phone" notifications after I logged in with my Apple ID, and that was it.

But like I said, I'm probably not super representative of Android users.

 

[the-oz-man]

It's obvious Cook is going full steam ahead trying to win iOS market share back. iOS 8 is much more open and the phone itself now finally comes in multiple sizes.

I just hope this change of heart at Apple didn't come too late...

Yes, because Apple is DOOMED!!! [sarcasm in case it was not overly implied]

 

[GeneralChang]

You have a Mac and PC to manage iPhone files... but not through Windows Explorer or Finder. You have to import everything to iTunes. And don't try to help a friend, because if an iTunes installation and an iPhone are registered in different accounts, iTunes will ask for wiping the iPhone. Very intelligent!

It seems like you've had some bad experiences here. Is there something you'd like to share with the group?

 

[SockRolid]

I for one welcome all android defectors back! We forgive you for leaving...

I'll be you a dollar that Tim Cook will announce ex-Android switcher numbers in the January earnings call. After just one full quarter of iPhone 6, 6+, and iPad "Air 2" and iPad "Retina mini 2" sales.

And I'll bet you another dollar that those numbers will be higher than ever.
(But I know you won't take that bet. )

 

[dona83]

I wonder if this could backfire?

Not as bad as Toyota coming out with a pretty nice refresh of their Sienna minivan and then doing this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQ2sHyA9SI

 

[SockRolid]

You have a Mac and PC to manage iPhone files... but not through Windows Explorer or Finder. You have to import everything to iTunes. And don't try to help a friend, because if an iTunes installation and an iPhone are registered in different accounts, iTunes will ask for wiping the iPhone. Very intelligent!

"Word on the Mac is revenge for iTunes on Windows."
- Rene Ritchie, iMore podast 2/22/2012

 

[GeneralChang]

The worst thing about the iPhone, I've always thought it and I've been both an android and an iphone user (currently an iphone user since 2 years ago), is its file management as I said. It makes the iPhone look like a toy. Would it be so hard to use a similar system to the OS X one?

And the iCloud's file management too which no one on this planet achieves to understand. It's just intolerable and stupid.

Getting used to these things when you come from personal computers and android devices is really really hard, if not impossible.

You know, I've never had a problem finding files in iCloud. Maybe it's just me, but not having an obtuse folder tree is actually kinda refreshing.

I've also taken to using Spotlight a lot more for accessing files over the past few years, ignoring folder structures and Finder as much as possible. It makes me feel like I'm in Star Trek.

 

[brdeveloper]

It seems like you've had some bad experiences here. Is there something you'd like to share with the group?

Fortunately, I didn't answered "yes" when iTunes asked for wiping

Then I went to the workaround solution: moved files to Dropbox, then imported to iPhone. I know american iPhone users plenty of bandwidth and/or inexpensive data plans don't care too much with intermediary/cloud solutions, but it can be a pita when you don't have the best bandwidth available or cloud plan (think on moving 10-20GB of files to a free Dropbox account, so you must copy files in steps).

 

[3282868]

I never played too much with iTunes and iPhone syncing, but it seems that if your wife's iPhone is registered into her Mac, you won't be able to move files to her iPhone using your Mac, unless you accept iTunes wiping the phone..

Hasn't been the case for a while. Plug in the device, approve it for use by selecting "Trust", and sync. It may prompt you for media to by synced with the account email and password prompt. If you have that info, they'll sync, if not, just those items won't (i.e. one person bought an app, it won't copy to your device unless you know that persons account info). I had a few app's I copied from my brothers iPhone that synced to my devices (which I deleted). It will not wipe your device (as least not iTunes 12).

As for iCloud, most cloud services that are reliable and fast with dedicated coastal server farms will charge a premium for extra space. If $3.99 USD for 200GB's a month is too much, why are you buying an expensive phone?

Lastly, yes, there are tons of pressure sensitive stylus's on the market, a plethora that do a lot as graphic artists use iPads for stellar work. Google it.