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Apple Launching iPhone 6s and 6s Plus With 3D Touch, 12MP Camera and A9 Chip on September 25

garylapointe said:
I don't believe Apple ever states (admits) how much RAM the processor has. I don't do think we get that until the breakdowns and someone pulls out an electron microscope (or something geeky like that).

Gary
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I suspect it would if it has picture in picture video or multi tasking
 
notabadname said:
Problem with that is, you can easily get results that you may not want, such as a delay in releasing your finger from the screen, and it responds as if you pressed it, taking you to the next depth of software action. Could become frustrating having the phone advance you to the next layer when you were merely still reading the text or link with your finger on it. Plus a pressure detection can instantly give the haptic response too, which enhances the effect in a more logical instant "click" type of response. I love the Force Feedback of my new MBP.
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Didn't say it was perfect. Just don't see it becoming all that intuitive.
 
KoolAid-Drink said:
So what's your gut feeling? My thought is that if Apple really did add 2GB of RAM, they would've announced it as an improvement. So, I hate to say, but I have a feeling it wasn't changed. :( Again, I could be wrong here.
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Not entirely, memory is twice as fast and Cpu is 70% up
 
nutjob said:
Don't worry, you'll hear all sorts of lame excuses why the iPhone is perfect and you're somehow inappropriate.

It's the tools and trade of the Apple apologist.
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You know... I've been an Apple apologist now for just a couple of years shy of 30 years. I love them, but I can also be hyper-critical of them when they screw up. I think you're thinking of a fanboi. :)

That said, I've never seen Apple in worse shape than the last couple of years in terms of losing sight of what has made them great. If they don't course-correct soon, we're going to start seeing the fall. I'm running into more and more people who are begrudgingly using Apple rather than joyfully using them and being apologists to others (I'm starting to go there too). That's not a good sign, no matter what the profit margins say. Profit margins measure the now... not the future!
 
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My iphone 6 is doing just fine...so I'll pass on the S. Just not enough improvements to justify spending $750 when I have a perfectly good working phone. Better off spending that $750 on Apple stock.
 
patent10021 said:
I can upgrade from iP6+ to iP6S+?
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No, having Apple finance your phone payments rather than the telco... so you can buy one for $30/mo (which is what you'd pay the telco anyway) but have an unlocked phone that you can put on any carrier that fits your needs. Anyway, that's how I understood it... which is pretty cool if that's how it works.

Plus, apparently, you get to keep upgrading as new models come out. I'm not sure if that's all included in the $32 or whatever it was. (Also, I'm sure the $32 was for a 16GB model, which is useless... not sure what pricing on the 64 would be). Plus, it might only be in the USA.
 
Wish they would offer the sim free version from the start instead of having to wait until - is it January of February?
 
SteveW928 said:
You know... I've been an Apple apologist now for just a couple of years shy of 30 years. I love them, but I can also be hyper-critical of them when they screw up. I think you're thinking of a fanboi. :)

That said, I've never seen Apple in worse shape than the last couple of years in terms of losing sight of what has made them great. If they don't course-correct soon, we're going to start seeing the fall. I'm running into more and more people who are begrudgingly using Apple rather than joyfully using them and being apologists to others (I'm starting to go there too). That's not a good sign, no matter what the profit margins say. Profit margins measure the now... not the future!
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At the prices Apple charge, they need a compelling product, and each iteration seems less so.
 
I hope Apple eventually becomes a carrier (kudos for the installment plan with Applecare+*.) I would rather just deal with Apple personally. They've been so great as far as the phones, warranties etc.

The 6s and 6s+ look wonderful, but I will hold out for something with a bigger screen.

May everyone who gets one enjoy it. And yes the Rose Gold is very purty.

EDIT *All that said, the phone is way too expensive for me now (Applecare + was worth the $100 but $129 and you're still paying out of pocket for a refurbished replacement? Ouch.)
 
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valinda said:
I'm going to get a 6S. I'm using a iPhone 5 right now. Then I'm going to wait for the 8, if it's
any good.
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That's exactly my plan, valinda. Still figuring out where to trade-in the 5, but that's what my thought is as well.
 
budselectjr said:
Biggest announcement iPhone related is the upgrade program. That is huge.
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I wasn't planning to upgrade, but this might make me do it.

Only gotcha is the activation requirement. I use a prepaid MVNO, and the language thus far implies it has to be one of the big carriers on a postpaid plan.
 
Capt Crunch said:
My professional background is related to this, so let me try to lay out why they might do something like this. Apple is on track to sell something like 220 million iPhones this quarter. Taking your estimate, thats ~$1.2 billion in additional profit. But wait! There's more! Some significant number of people, instead of getting the 16GB, will (perhaps begrudgingly, like me) get the 64 GB version because 16 GB just isn't enough. I'm going to pull a number out of my ass and say that 50 million out of the 220 million do just this. They pay an additional $100, while Apple's cost goes up, let's say $10. So, Apple makes an additional $90 x 50 million $4.5 billion. So we've got an additional $5.7 BILLION just by setting the lowest level at 16 GB instead of 32 GB.

How many customers would they have to lose to make this a losing proposition? Apple makes $400 per phone (not including overhead). They would have to lose a conservative 14 million customers to offset the 5.7 billion.

It's nowhere close to that. They gain customers and market share year over year. Customer satisfaction is the highest in just about ANY industry. There is no reason why they wouldn't do this strategy. Especially in a market where even Apple is feeling the squeeze of tight margins (new Apple products have been having lower profit margins than prior products), Apple has every incentive to push customers to buy the higher-margin products.

I don't mind. Apple's high profit margins fund their R&D, which I think is the best in the world. It allows them to largely ignore their shareholders, who favor short-term profits. They are able to throw away (most) ****** products that don't pan out, unlike other companies who would release a sub-standard product just because they need to recoup on any spent R&D.
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I also don't think that it's a coincidence that most non Apple phones are 32GB and the most popular Apple models straddle that. I'm sure it helps their pricing that they aren't fighting with everyone else for that supply and having to account for the fluctuating demand from other manufacturers...
 
Am I the only one upset about the taptic engine in the 6s? That damn thing sits right under the battery and from that glimpse during the keynote, looks to be at least 3-4mm from top edge to bottom edge. Now tell me, is this engine really worth it? That extra 3-4mm could have been used to increase the battery size and thereby increase battery capacity.
 
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SteveW928 said:
Everything... depending on how the OS is developed going forward. For example, 512K devices are now pretty much useless. If the whole line moves to 2GB, 1GB devices won't have more than a 1-2 year life-span.
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I'm surprised people are still asking that stupid question... People who never look towards the future.
 
Does anyone know for sure whether the new 6s and 6s Plus have 2gb RAM? Ive seen a few articles that state 2gb RAM but several others that don't know.
 
cwt1nospam said:
Yes, necessarily. RAM needs constant power, or it loses its information. That's one major difference between it and SSD memory. More RAM does mean more power consumption, even when you're not using it.
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I wish Apple would just remove RAM entirely. Maybe even the CPU - I hear it's a big power guzzler too.

/s
 
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