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Apple Likely Targeting iOS 19 for Delayed Siri Features
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Yes that was exactly the problem. When they sold you the 16 series, they sounded like it will be so wonderful. Half year gone after October, nothing close to what they sounded like.
Some of those bands celebrate certain causes in society, in this new world, I wonder what Apple will do.
Which is totally fine, but they should not have promised something they could not deliver.
Apple has historically often waited on releasing a product until they can confidently leap frog the competition. This time around, they are shook.
It’s wild to me how quickly the development of LLMs have completely disrupted the technology space, got investors panicking, and sent companies into panic mode.
This, coupled with a self defeating release cycle, has forced Apple to make promises they can’t keep up with. Marketing and sales have taken over the company.
Apple needs to slow down and get back to releasing stuff that “just works” in combination with game changing technologies. Those will be few and far between, but have been the milestones the company has measured itself by to this date.
It’s wild to me how quickly the development of LLMs have completely disrupted the technology space, got investors panicking, and sent companies into panic mode.
This, coupled with a self defeating release cycle, has forced Apple to make promises they can’t keep up with. Marketing and sales have taken over the company.
Apple needs to slow down and get back to releasing stuff that “just works” in combination with game changing technologies. Those will be few and far between, but have been the milestones the company has measured itself by to this date.
unpopular take: AI is overhyped and helps as much as it hinders. This is no big deal. They aren’t behind, they are ahead of the curve as we approach the trough of disillusionment
I posted on another thread that Apple should have implemented their AI features in a highly modular way so they could be guaranteed to be offloaded if you opt out, and marketed this as the only true alternative to AI being rammed down consumers’ throats by tech companies. “We give you great AI capabilities but if you would rather not have them, we absolutely respect that.”
These reported AI delays don’t affect me, as I will be turning it all off anyway. But it’s hard to ignore how much Apple has pushed this and marketed/sold devices with it. Looks really sleazy in a “used car salesman” sort of way. As a decades-long Apple customer, it’s disappointing.
I find it kind of funny that until last years’ WWDC, this wasn’t even on Apples public roadmap. All of this was just thrown in last minute to copy the other players. Remember the Vision Pro, the big deal before WWDC 2024? I guess this worked out for them…
Another take.
www.macstories.net
TL; DR - it all comes back to security.
Notes on the Apple Intelligence Delay
Simon Willison, one of the more authoritative independent voices in the LLM space right now, published a good theory on what may have happened with Apple’s delay of Apple Intelligence’s Siri personalization features: I have a hunch that this delay might relate to security. These new Apple...
www.macstories.net
TL; DR - it all comes back to security.
It maybe could try to get back at you, but it will not able to find you, neither be sure of who's speaking.
We have a pair of HomePod minis in our garden room , when I do engage with Siri it is kept deliberately very basic , ie lights on/ off or what is the temperature in the garden room and selecting music. When we require more detailed / accurate feedback I defer to our Alexa smart plug which is also in our garden room , it generally never fails . The collective apathy continues …………….
and whenever Siri 2.0 comes out (if ever) it will be in a few languages. Other languages have to wait another year. Are we talking about 2028?
This is Apple’s Nokia moment and they deserve it.
Another Timmy statement 🤥. Looks like he’s also living in a parallel universe.
Contrary to most people, I think that Apple’s approach using local AI and their position with hundreds of millions of extremely powerful AI chips already out there inside of Apple products puts Apple in a very good position. AI isn’t a trend like what we currently see. It’s still very much in its infancy. Just look how limited it still is. Apple isn’t late to anything, and their approach might put them in first place in just 2/3 years. The others just can’t compete without the chips.
Uhm, no… this is literally one of the biggest experts on Apple, long before Gurman.“ Reading between the lines, and based on my PhD-level fluency in Cupertino-ese,“
Really? PhD-level?
This guy is funny, and full of it. Does that make Gurman a quadruple PdD-level?
Apple should be so lucky. Nokia is doing well now and this week it put 4G on the moon.
Local AI means a very small brain 😂. When I think about it… Siri hasn’t one.
Yep Apple is definitely gonna be late to the party for the AI even tho they already are I mean but a whole year to wait now? Hundreds of LLM models are gonna be available and I bet 80% of them are gonna be way more accurate and smarter than the Siri that Apple will “finally” deliver whoever knows when… very disappointed Apple
Apple today shared a somewhat vague statement announcing that some of its planned Apple Intelligence Siri features will take longer than expected to develop, and it's sounding like those Siri capabilities aren't going to be implemented until iOS 19.
Apple's statement, for context:"In the coming year" isn't exactly concrete, and could be interpreted as in the next 12 months, or as 2026. If it's taken as in the next 12 months, that leaves room for a launch that's still part of iOS 18, but 2026 is firmly iOS 19. Direct Apple acknowledgements of product delays are uncommon, and if Apple was on track to introduce the Siri features in iOS 18, would the company bother to make a delay announcement at all? It seems unlikely. For that reason alone, there's a good chance Apple has pushed the feature set to iOS 19.
Daring Fireball's John Gruber has come to a similar conclusion, suggesting Apple's "years" refer to product years that start at WWDC. It is his opinion that Apple is subtly suggesting an iOS 19 launch timeline.
Further, both Reuters and CNBC interpreted Apple's statement as a delay of the Siri features until 2026, and wrote headlines stating as much. If Apple was only counting on a delay of a couple of months, it's likely the company would correct the 2026 assumption, but Apple has offered no further clarification nor has it asked for those sites to change their wording.
We'll get the first iOS 19 update in September 2025 alongside new iPhones, so if 2026 ends up being accurate, the Siri features might not even come in the iOS 19 release. They'll instead be slated for a future iOS 19 update, perhaps iOS 19.2 or iOS 19.3.
The vague wording of Apple's statement gives it some runway to tweak launch timing. The company has up to 12 months to provide the promised Siri functionality after admitting to a delay, so there's a good chance Apple is aiming for the September iOS 19 release, but tempering expectations in case it takes longer.
Apple announced the personalized Apple Intelligence Siri features at WWDC 2024, and initially said the functionality would come in iOS 18. Rumors suggested Apple was aiming for an iOS 18.4 release, but couldn't meet that timeline. Until now, there was still hope for a launch in iOS 18.5 or iOS 18.6, but there are strong implications that the feature set is going to be bundled into iOS 19 or an update to iOS 19.
The Siri features that we're waiting on include personal context to allow Siri to keep track of emails, messages, files, photos, and more, and deeper app integration that lets Siri do more in and across apps.
Apple is also working on an LLM version of Siri similar to ChatGPT and Google Gemini, and while that was initially planned for the iOS 19 update, it now seems Apple is going to hold it until iOS 20.
Update: Bloomberg's Mark Gurman says that the Siri features "won't be released until next year at the earliest." Some people in Apple's AI division think the features could even be "scrapped altogether and rebuilt from scratch.
There are some concerns that fixing Siri could require more powerful hardware, which would mean Apple needs to reduce its feature set or make the models run more slowly on current devices.
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In other words, for the foreseeable future Apple Intelligence is a nothingburger.
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Better to deliver it right than to deliver it wrong. There’s an expression: “Do you want it fast, correct and under-budget. Pick two out of three.” It will be here when it arrives.
Copland's Long Shadow
How the Siri LLM struggle echoes Apple's most notorious unfinished project
kneeland.substack.com
TL;DR=> Siri is Apple's Copland moment
There is no right or wrong because AI, like machine learning is on its way to being a commodity. It isn’t known how the use of AI will pan out in future.