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What pisses me off about all this is they are letting the rest of iOS fall to trash while they continue on their pretty much failed AI bull crap.

So many bugs in iOS and iPadOS 18 and just overall glitchy behavior this late in the cycle because all the attention is on “ApPLe InTelLigEnCe”
 
Let me show you the problem with using LLMs as a core feature in your OS.

First of all, LLMs were not intended to be used like this. If you want to put it in your OS, it’s not a matter of directly coding in features like you would with a proper programming language. Look at Apple’s code for the writing tools features in iOS:

Apple's AI tools also include a general directive to avoid hallucination. For instance, the Writing Tools feature has the following prompt:

You are an assistant which helps the user respond to their mails. Given a mail, a draft response is initially provided based on a short reply snippet. In order to make the draft response nicer and complete, a set of question and its answer are provided. Please write a concise and natural reply by modifying the draft response to incorporate the given questions and their answers. Please limit the reply within 50 words. Do not hallucinate. Do not make up factual information.

To get it to work, they have to put prompts into the code to try to direct the LLM what to do, and hope it spits out an acceptable result.

How in the world do they expect to build a system that works reliably and consistently like this? Corporations have gotten so caught up in AI as a marketing tool that they’ve lost sight of what it’s really capable (or not capable) of actually doing.
 
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Apple completely missing the AI revolution is a huge fumble, and now it's taking them years to catch up.
iPhones have had neural engines for how many years now?
To reply to your last question, iPhones had their first neural engine by the iPhone 8 & X launch, with the A11, and that was in 2017; although the A11 had just a primitive neural engine with just 2 cores, enough for Face ID and some improvements for the keyboard.

Then, by 2018, they launched the A12, the first chip with a real 8 core neural engine, which remained there on the A13 as well.

Finally, in 2020, they released the final form of the neural engine with 16 cores, and that has accompanied us until the present day, on the iPhone, iPad and Mac.

So, it depends on wether we consider the 8 core NPU or the 16 core NPU. If an 8 core NPU is enough for all the on-device features we currently enjoy plus the new Siri, then it’s 6 years. However, for the most demanding features, such as a new AI model implement at system wide level, I think it is fair to consider the 16 core NPU the minimum… so, replying to your question, it would be 4 years.
 
AI on a computer is great, getting it to write code and do research and stuff, but I can see a lot of people just not bothering with AI on their phone because they don't want to talk into it.

Asking an AI to message your friend about something might be quicker, but if you're in public it's not, because by the time you type in the command you may as well have just done it yourself.

It makes more sense on that new HomePod thing, in the privacy of your home
 
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I would love for a feature to be added so it shows what siri thinks she heard.

Own so many homepods and the amount of "i found some web results" when I ask her to do an automation.

"hey siri, turn on the lights in such and such room".

"One moment"

" i found some web results"

oh ok.

"hey siri who won the super bowl?"

" I found some web results"

"hey siri when was the super bowl?"

"Super bowl was feb xx played at xx, between team a and b"
 
Delay a new iOS until all the features of iOS 18 are implemented and fixed. We don’t need a new number, just bug fixes.
We need both. Apple is already years behind others. We need reliable stable updates and a necessary catch up to others.
 
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As someone who works in the software product space, damn was this mismanaged. If they aren’t going to release a beta of the new Siri (which they probably should, they need to stop thinking they can develop complex products like this without a user feedback loop), why even announce it ahead of time?! Where is that Apple secrecy? Apple knows how to play the rumor mill. They could have made sure it was heavily rumored that an awesome new Siri was coming without ever actually officially announcing anything. Then they wouldn’t be in quite the clusterf*ck they are in now.

I would not want to be an Apple engineer on the Siri team right now. I guarantee you they were asked to do something basically impossible within an unrealistic time frame. They probably said, “no we can’t do it” and were told to do it anyway. There were probably a lot of people too scared to tell upper management something they didn’t want to hear, until finally there was no way to hide it. And now they are likely being sold under the bus when their predictions that said thing was impossible came true.
 
As someone who works in the software product space, damn was this mismanaged. If they aren’t going to release a beta of the new Siri (which they probably should, they need to stop thinking they can develop complex products like this without a user feedback loop), why even announce it ahead of time?! Where is that Apple secrecy? Apple knows how to play the rumor mill. They could have made sure it was heavily rumored that an awesome new Siri was coming without ever actually officially announcing anything. Then they wouldn’t be in quite the clusterf*ck they are in now.

I would not want to be an Apple engineer on the Siri team right now. I guarantee you they were asked to do something basically impossible within an unrealistic time frame. They probably said, “no we can’t do it” and were told to do it anyway. There were probably a lot of people too scared to tell upper management something they didn’t want to hear, until finally there was no way to hide it. And now they are likely being sold under the bus when their predictions that said thing was impossible came true.
Forstall, who was an SVP of SWE, got canned over the Maps rollout which was nowhere near mismanaged. A senior leader definitely needs to take the hit for this.
 
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Apple completely missing the AI revolution is a huge fumble, and now it's taking them years to catch up.
iPhones have had neural engines for how many years now?
Revolution?
The current state of AI is still anything but. Hit and miss workflow automation, a hallucinating "Wikipedia" and a Photoshop for dummies on a phone are hardly revolutionary.
Nothing Samsung, Google or Apple have to offer is attractive enough.
Just buzzwords to compensate for stalling technological progress.
I'm currently on a 14 Pro and I can't for the life of me find a single reason to move up to a newer iPhone.
 
I posted on another thread that Apple should have implemented their AI features in a highly modular way so they could be guaranteed to be offloaded if you opt out, and marketed this as the only true alternative to AI being rammed down consumers’ throats by tech companies. “We give you great AI capabilities but if you would rather not have them, we absolutely respect that.”

These reported AI delays don’t affect me, as I will be turning it all off anyway. But it’s hard to ignore how much Apple has pushed this and marketed/sold devices with it. Looks really sleazy in a “used car salesman” sort of way. As a decades-long Apple customer, it’s disappointing.
I agree it should be modular but I can be turned off in settings. I suppose you mean you want to delete it like apps?
 
Last quarters financial call says otherwise.
Apple is measured (by WS and shareholders) by increase of revenue, primarily iPhone and secondarily services. Only when iPhone sales decline due to the "lack of AI" over several quarters it will have an impact.
The average iPhone user doesn't really care as much about "AI" as folks here do.
But then again we know that MR uses are 100% representative of the average Apple user /s
 
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Forstall, who was an SVP of SWE, got canned over the Maps rollout which was nowhere near mismanaged. A senior leader definitely needs to take the hit for this.
Mgmt at the time imo saw it worse than this. There were other reasons why forstall went, yeah don’t expect a management shakeup. The goose that lays the golden egg and all.
 
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Last quarters financial call says otherwise.
I think that Apple's quarterly results show them out, services and hardware cover a multitude of sins. It doesn't mean all is well, it just means they can ignore the iceberg. Personally I don't think they will ever chance upon a financial downturn big enough to cause a tectonic shift initiated by the board. I get the feeling Tim can screw up as much as he wants and have zero accountability - the car is a damning boondoggle that would've seen any other CEO ousted but he keeps hitting different SKUs with his shotgun approach so it's padding their losses elsewhere nicely. Also nice is the fact they don't break out certain of their financials in detail to further hide the negative parts.
 
Forstall, who was an SVP of SWE, got canned over the Maps rollout which was nowhere near mismanaged. A senior leader definitely needs to take the hit for this.
How about getting rid of Timmy? He has no feeling or vision for technology. He took the soul out of the Apple brand and is purely relying on old successes.
He sees the customer as a cashcow and when I see him speak, I see an antique with a big ego and nothing to say or show.
 
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Mgmt at the time imo saw it worse than this. There were other reasons why forstall went, yeah don’t expect a management shakeup. The goose that lays the golden egg and all.
There wasn't a management shakeup during the Maps fiasco either. It was only one person, Forstall, that was let go. He was SVP of SWE at the time. At the very least, I expect the SVP of AI / ML to get canned and the position to be given to someone else. If not, then there's bigger leadership issues at Apple. As someone else mentioned, maybe it's time for Tim Cook to go as well.
 
There wasn't a management shakeup during the Maps fiasco either. It was only one person, Forstall, that was let go. He was SVP of SWE at the time. At the very least, I expect the SVP of AI / ML to get canned and the position to be given to someone else. If not, then there's bigger leadership issues at Apple. As someone else mentioned, maybe it's time for Tim Cook to go as well.
Well I can’t predict what will happen, but i don’t have an opinion anyone will get canned. Let everybody say the harshest words at Apple and I believe most of it is noise.
 
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