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Tell me the economics of running a 500-person human review team reviewing 100k apps per week, provide yearly software framework/os updates, hundreds of people on App Store customer support, human curate the app store serving 500 million customers per week, running data centers around the world to deliver many app updates to 1.5 billion customers including in China all the while providing up to 2 petabytes of free storage to each developer and free Apple Mapping services (where Google charges hundreds of thousands of dollars for high volume users) on a $99/year/developer budget.
It's really simple. Apple made $54B in profits in 2020 fiscal year. Everything you listed probably costs less than $1B. Alternatively they can close App Store. Nobody forces them to keep it open.
 
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It's really simple. Apple made $54B in profits in 2020 fiscal year. Everything you listed probably costs less than $1B. Alternatively they can close App Store. Nobody forces them to keep it open.
What a croc! The app store is what gives the iPhone its usability. Saying they could close it is like saying you don't need to give your money when a gun is pointed at you. Just choose to die.

Cite one single reason why Apple should allow others access to the phones it chooses to sell as being within their ecosystem!
 
I think the people should voice their opinion on this one and let it be heard loudly! We the consumer are happy with the current setup. Anyone saying otherwise is just a greedy slock looking to bite the hand that feeds it.
 
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What a croc! The app store is what gives the iPhone its usability. Saying they could close it is like saying you don't need to give your money when a gun is pointed at you. Just choose to die.

Cite one single reason why Apple should allow others access to the phones it chooses to sell as being within their ecosystem!
Is the law a good reason for you? If they make it a law I am sure Apple will oblige. The phone belongs to its owner. The notion of ecosystem has no legal meaning.
 
I think the people should voice their opinion on this one and let it be heard loudly! We the consumer are happy with the current setup. Anyone saying otherwise is just a greedy slock looking to bite the hand that feeds it.
Most people loudly defending Apple profits on this website are actually AAPL shareholders.
 
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Hopefully Apple loses.

There has to be a middle ground somewhere. But right now both side think they are absolutely right. Which create a problem that can only be settled in court.
 
Why are you always talking about the lack of App Discovery? If I want Utilities then I go to the Utilities category and BOOM! I get a list of utilities. Games is at the front in the US App Market because it is the top seller. Also it's not like they are preventing you from searching for a utility. You can even search for a utility that doesn't exists on iOS like Total Commander and Viola!!! A listing of various file managers.

Is this even a serious reply ? Or is it trolling ?

Because I find it quite funny. :D
 
In a hearing last week, Apple's chief compliance officer Kyle Andeer called HB2005 a "government mandate that Apple give away the App Store.

Nobody is forcing Apple to give away their App Store. That's a lie.
How Is it not. Epic can use browsers that tO run their apps where they bring their own customers. They can also have free apps as long as they are not making money from Apples APIs and extensive development tools.
 
Every app will be able to bypass Apple's cut. $99/year per developer isn't nearly enough to pay for the App Store bills. How long until Apple has to shutdown the App Store because it isn't making a profit?

28 million registered developers at $99/year buying at least a few millions of Mac Hardware every year to develop on the iOS platform isn't making a profits?

That is also on the assumption every App will bypass Apple's Cut.
 
If Apple loses then developers lose the ability to host free apps. We also lose the equal opportunity as huge companies would be able to use cheep payment providers that are too expensive for small developers to pay or force small developers to geofence their apps to only markets they are able and/or can afford to pay taxes too instead of having Apple doing it for us.
How are we, the developers, hosting free apps? Last I checked, I pay Apple $99 and a cut of my profits.
 
It's really simple. Apple made $54B in profits in 2020 fiscal year. Everything you listed probably costs less than $1B. Alternatively they can close App Store. Nobody forces them to keep it open.

Why would Apple give money away?

Giving $1 to each of the 900 million active iPhone users is "really simple" too but Apple isn't that dumb.
 
Why would Apple give money away?

Giving $1 to each of the 900 million active iPhone users is "really simple" too but Apple isn't that dumb.
As I said, if the law gets passed Apple has two choices: follow the law or close App Store. I am pretty sure they will go with option #1.
 
28 million registered developers at $99/year buying at least a few millions of Mac Hardware every year to develop on the iOS platform isn't making a profits?

That is also on the assumption every App will bypass Apple's Cut.

registration is free. not all 28 million are paying $99/year.
 
I don’t think many of you understand the underlying problem with every developer big or small having their own payment gateway or store. Should something go seriously wrong (i.e. data breach etc.), who would be to blame?

Also if everyone has their store I don’t think it’s up to Apple to even carry slash feature their apps which is what google does and did that workout for Epic!!

This will never reduce the percentage cut any of these stores would take from developers. Ever notice the actual cut Epic takes for using the Unreal Engine?
 
As I said, if the law gets passed Apple has two choices: follow the law or close App Store. I am pretty sure they will go with option #1.

You're missing the point. Apple can't fund the App Store at its current state if every app can bypass the cut. At the very least it's going to hurt indie developers since Apple will nickel and dime every step of the way of getting app on the App Store. Hurting indie developers means hurting the consumer.
 
I think this is a terrible idea. Though if they are going to follow through with this law it better apply to game consoles too and not just iOS and Android.
 
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Most people loudly defending Apple profits on this website are actually AAPL shareholders.
No one is a real shareholder here and if truly think apple losing would solve all your woes, think again. Also the solution for developers is simple create a PWA and and store. There will be no app discovery problem, developer kit to purchase or 30% cut.
 
No one is a real shareholder here and if truly think apple losing would solve all your woes, think again. Also the solution for developers is simple create a PWA and and store. There will be no app discovery problem, developer kit to purchase or 30% cut.
There are plenty of shareholders here. AAPL is the most widely held stock in US. Just check the discussions for the articles about Apple quarterly reports.
 
All of it. Apple can keep their store and sell whatever they want as long as their fees are competitive.
Competitive with what? Should they work with other platforms to ensure they charge the same amount? Wouldn't that be collusion?
 
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