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Well, to me, both sides in construct are the same, just with different perspectives.

On one side you have Nazis who hates the jews

Perhaps the problem is that you truly believe they are Nazis when they aren't. They are not German. I mean, maybe some of them are of German descent, but very few if any are. But to be a Nazi you must be German. -- You just group them together to make your arguments sound more justified, but you're delusional.
 
BLM advocates for the elimination of others ethnicities/religious beliefs???? Really? I thought they were just anti-police.

They aren't even anti-police their message is that maybe if you can take in armed suspects like the Santa Fe shooter, the Parkland Shooter, The Aurora CO shooter, The Charleston shooter etc who are armed, white and have killed people alive then maybe you don't have to shoot an unarmed black man in the back 8 times killing him.
 
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Let me leave this right here for ya to absorb and then defend/deny:

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No it’s not the former and you both could have a done a quick search instead of just using those words to try and attack another poster. Dotard is the word Kim (north korea) used to insult trump. And Drumpf was the Trump’s Family name before it was changed to seem more American.
I asked him a question... He then replied stating that it was in fact childish namecalling... Look at his reply directly below my post...

Mine was not an attack...
 
Perhaps the problem is that you truly believe they are Nazis when they aren't. They are not German. I mean, maybe some of them are of German descent, but very few if any are. But to be a Nazi you must be German. -- You just group them together to make your arguments sound more justified, but you're delusional.

Ok wait, so now the people who were flying Nazi flags chanting "blood and soil" and "the jews will not replace us" and advocating a the extermination of all Jews aren't actual Nazis because they aren't of direct German decent? What would you call people wearing swastikas flying Nazi flags,and chanting Nazi slogans?

I have never seen a non Nazi defend Nazis, i'm sorry, "fine people" who wear swastikas, chant Nazi slogans and fly Nazi flags, so strongly, passionately, and enthusiastically before, well except for other Nazis.
 
I remain completely dumbfounded that anyone can look at the current president and say this about Obama. I understand how some people disagree with his policies and actions, but calling him inept, as compared to Trump, is just willful ignorance.

Things the "resistance" is against.
Lower Taxes.
Record low unemployment for African Americans.
Record low unemployment for Hispanics.
Near record low unemployment for women.
Actual wage increases.
Record high stock-market.
Bombing the **** out of ISIS.
Moving the embassy.
Peace in Korea.
Shredding the disastrous Iran deal.
Shredding the disastrous individual mandate.
Winning trade deals with China.

And that is all while the "resistance" says he golfs and sits around and watches TV all day.
He could literally do nothing for the next 2 years and be reelected.
 
I think this is for the better. Just reading the comments shows me a show like this is to political and can have a negative effect for AAPL.
 
Things the "resistance" is against.
Lower Taxes.
Record low unemployment for African Americans.
Record low unemployment for Hispanics.
Near record low unemployment for women.
Actual wage increases.
Record high stock-market.
Bombing the **** out of ISIS.
Moving the embassy.
Peace in Korea.
Shredding the disastrous Iran deal.
Shredding the disastrous individual mandate.
Winning trade deals with China.

Almost all of which are simply the result of the economic trends well underway the day Trump took office or complete partisan fictions.
 
What would you call people wearing swastikas flying Nazi flags,and chanting Nazi slogans?

I would call them "Nazi wannabes", but the true meaning of Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. -- They have taken that and repurposed it. But just because they did, doesn't mean they are a part of the same group, and thus are to blame for the original group's actions.

These wannabe Nazis didn't kill Jews, they're just identifying with those that did. Which I'm not saying is a good thing or anything. I just understand the difference.
 
I would call them "Nazi wannabes", but the true meaning of Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. -- They have taken that and repurposed it. But just because they did, doesn't mean they are a part of the same group, and thus are to blame for the original group's actions.

To paraphrase the late, great Kurt Vonnegut, “You are who you pretend to be.” Pretend, wannabe Nazis are, for all relevant purposes for this discussion, Nazis.
 
Obama is done. You can hate him or love him as much as you want. It means nothing at this point. But anyone who rationally thinks that Trump is a good president is delusional.
 
BLM advocates for the elimination of others ethnicities/religious beliefs???? Really? I thought they were just anti-police.
They're not anti-police, they're against bad police. The ones who gun down black kids too fast and then try to obscure what they did, and their fellow officers that close ranks around the bad ones, and go into "us vs. them" mode.

Too many people hear "Black Lives Matter" and misinterpret it as "Only Black Lives Matter", when what they mean is, "Black Lives Matter Too". There are too many police officers (to be clear, more than zero would be too many) who let fear and prejudice control their actions, and too many other police officers who rush to stand in support of their fellow officers rather than in support of justice.
 
Then, I conclude you are not a fine person due to your closed-mind, and the hate in your heart. Fair?
You're kidding right? Hate for Nazis?

Closed minded to what?

That if someone is raised to accept racism and bigotry, they should be given time to over come that upbringing.
Meanwhile, hanging out with Nazis is something these 'fine people' (racist and bigots) might do and get caught up in the moment.

Again, fine people don't hang out with Nazis...plain and simple.
 
Perhaps the problem is that you truly believe they are Nazis when they aren't. They are not German. I mean, maybe some of them are of German descent, but very few if any are. But to be a Nazi you must be German.
Would you prefer the term Neo-Nazi? Are you that much more worried about the specific semantics than about what is happening in the world? When they're wearing swastikas and espousing Nazi views, I am quite comfortable calling them Nazis.
 
I would call them "Nazi wannabes", but the true meaning of Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. -- They have taken that and repurposed it. But just because they did, doesn't mean they are a part of the same group, and thus are to blame for the original group's actions.

These wannabe Nazis didn't kill Jews, they're just identifying with those that did. Which I'm not saying is a good thing or anything. I just understand the difference.

This kind of semantics is alarming to say the least. There is no difference between those who want to be Nazi's but are prevented from acting on their ideological tenets due to social and societal constraints to actual Nazi's.
 
I would call them "Nazi wannabes", but the true meaning of Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. -- They have taken that and repurposed it. But just because they did, doesn't mean they are a part of the same group, and thus are to blame for the original group's actions.

These wannabe Nazis didn't kill Jews, they're just identifying with those that did. Which I'm not saying is a good thing or anything. I just understand the difference.

I will pay pal you 1,000 dollars to meet you and see you give this argument to vets on memorial day. I would love to see you argue with them about how those flying the same Nazi flags, chanting the same Nazi slogans, and advocating the same extermination of the Jews, and want the same thing as the "real Nazis" are somehow different from those they fought and those who killed their friends and brothers in World War 2.
 
This kind of semantics is alarming to say the least. There is no difference between those who want to be Nazi's but are prevented from acting on their ideological tenets due to social and societal constraints to actual Nazi's.

I honestly cant even fathom that we are actually having the debate that Nazis in America today aren't bad because they only advocate killing Jews, chant the same slogans, fly the same flag and wear the same swastika but haven't actually killed jew.
 
To paraphrase the late, great Kurt Vonnegut, “You are who you pretend to be.” Pretend, wannabe Nazis are, for all relevant purposes for this discussion, Nazis.

Would you prefer the term Neo-Nazi? Are you that much more worried about the specific semantics than about what is happening in the world? When they're wearing swastikas and espousing Nazi views, I am quite comfortable calling them Nazis.

You both understand the difference, so whatever you want to use is fine. But he used the argument that the people who were marching killed Jews, and did not understand the difference between the groups.

Fine people don't hang out with Nazis...plain and simple.

So for the purpose of categorizing you: in my eyes, fine people don't hang out with those that preach hate of any kind. I think both sides are guilty, but I am understanding of both sides' plight.


I will pay pal you 1,000 dollars to meet you and see you give this argument to vets on memorial day.

How about instead, you use that money towards a ticket to New York, and I'll have lunch with you? If you're genuinely willing to meet, I'll meet you.
 
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